[volkchan1]

Originally Posted by itwasntme

In VW’s defence I think the Tiguan R Line is technically E20 compatible, but is not formally certified to be so.

There was a similar situation some time back with India 2.0 vehicles as well, where dealers verbally informed customers that the vehicles are compliant; just that the formal certifications were absent.

I don't believe these new engines have gone through ARAI certification, news reports only mentioned 1.0 and 1.5 TSI engines not the 2.0 ones. Then why does Skoda claim to be E20 compliant ? Is it a matter of slapping the right stickers ?

The certification is not just about the engine, it's also about the rubber and other materials that come in contact with the fuel. These cars come from UK production slots, if they are E20 compliant they should put that in the manual - "built to be E20 compliant and awaiting or undergoing certification". It's hard to make purchasing decisions based on hearsay.

[sarathlal]

Originally Posted by itwasntme

In VW’s defence I think the Tiguan R Line is technically E20 compatible, but is not formally certified to be so.

Very much possible as most of the parts are shared by the VW group. Infact in most of the Skoda's and VW, the parts seen would be mix of Audi, VW and Skoda.

Originally Posted by volkchan1

I don't believe these new engines have gone through ARAI certification, news reports only mentioned 1.0 and 1.5 TSI engines not the 2.0 ones.
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It's hard to make purchasing decisions based on hearsay.

As mentioned above by itwasntme, the Tiguan is having the same heart and components as the Kodiaq, its highly likely to be E20 compatible. Please note that VW group have been having E20 compatible 2 ltr engines (albeit in slightly different tunings) for quite sometime now.

But to be 100% sure and for such definitive decision making, one should stick to what VW had published (as well as made available in the fuel lid), that this one is only E10 compatible.

[robimahanta]

Dropped by the local VW dealership in Bangalore to check out the newly launched Tiguan R-Line. Although test drives haven’t begun yet (expected next week), got a good feel for the vehicle’s design and interior. Here are some quick observations:

Looks well-proportioned and sharper than the new Kodiaq, which now leans more towards an MPV-like stance.



Supportive and comfortable with plenty of adjustment options, even though they're manually operated. Frankly, electric seats may not be missed.



Rear seats have recline and slide option



Ample cubbies and USB-C ports throughout



Big and deep boot



Felt lined door pockets



Feels premium overall, with a sporty edge thanks to the R-Line package.

Infotainment Screen: Large central screen dominates the dashboard. While crisp and modern, it looks almost like an iPad stuck onto the dash – may not be to everyone’s taste. Nice size steering which isn't too thick and has perforated leather



Lots of colours, light strips (connecting front and rear lamps), and glossy piano black surfaces – it’s the current trend, but could feel a bit too much

The front chrome strip was unnecessary



Rear has iQ light



No Keyless Entry – surprising omission at this price point.

No 360-degree Camera – especially given the car’s size.

No Spare Tyre – Only a repair kit with air compressor



Comes with 255/45 R19 100V Hankook Ventus Evo SUV tyres in an uninspiring alloy design



Familiar 2 litre tsi without any branding on the cover



Recent VW price list from Bangalore (at 61.79 it is around 3-4 lacs more expensive than the on road price of Q3 Premium Plus). Sales guys are currently unaware whether the extended warranty and service package is extra or included in the price.




Looking forward to the test drive next week.

Cheers!

[itwasntme]

Thanks!

Unfortunately looks very drab and uninspiring in this launch colour exterior, coupled with the similar interior shades. Reminds me of a monochrome movie clip.

The signature tartan seats while great for a GTI looks odd in the Tiguan. Less said about the alloys the better.

First thing most buyers will clamour for is an elusive donut tyre. And is the boot so deep because of the same? Unless of course there is an additional storage area underneath that floor.

By the way, any update on E20 compatibility?

[robimahanta]

Originally Posted by itwasntme

Thanks!

Unfortunately looks very drab and uninspiring in this launch colour exterior, coupled with the similar interior shades. Reminds me of a monochrome movie clip.

The signature tartan seats while great for a GTI looks odd in the Tiguan. Less said about the alloys the better.

First thing most buyers will clamour for is an elusive donut tyre. And is the boot so deep because of the same? Unless of course there is an additional storage area underneath that floor.

By the way, any update on E20 compatibility?

Yeah the boot floor can be adjusted as there is no spare tyre. Coming to E20, the car had the same E10 sticker and sales guy is blissfully unaware.

[volkchan1]

Tiguan R Line is strictly E10 compliant. I checked the VIN from the display car in the volkswagen site where digital manuals are available. The tank flap shows E10, manual does not mention any upper limit like "don't go beyond X% of Ethanol", it's unambiguous. Better go through this thread (Impact of 20% ethanol petrol on current petrol engines), before making a purchasing decision.

The current XP95, which is the minimum RON recommended for Tiguan, has 12% Ethanol. From what I have read, the % of ethanol is likely to go up.

Regarding the definition of E20, the following is what I found in the manual (this is just for information to the reader, actual compliance is in the tank flap).

E20 stands for petrol fuel with a maximum ethanol content of 20 %.

Petrol fuels with an ethanol content of 20% will be available in the EU only in the future.

Fuel standard:
EN 228 in the current version.
DIN EN 228 in the current version.
Resolucao ANP N° 40 (Brazil) in the current version.
Resolucion 576/2019 (Argentina) in the current version.
NOM-016-CRE-2016 (Mexico) in the current version.
AZS 388-2011 (Azerbaijan) in the current version.

[Guna]

Originally Posted by robimahanta

Supportive and comfortable with plenty of adjustment options, even though they're manually operated. Frankly, electric seats may not be missed.

This is weird. These days even cars like Kylaq have both powered front seats! I thought this car has everything except 360 degree camera and ventilated seats but now it seems to miss many features expected at this level (like powered tailgate, no spare, no keyless entry...).
Electric seats are a must on this car IMO. It is difficult to get in to a comfortable position with the earlier generation Tiguan (at least for tall drivers) and powered seat at least helped adjusting the position while driving (long drives).

[84.monsoon]

Keyless entry is a big miss, this was not pointed out by any of the reviews I have seen. Absence of Powered seats, ventilated seats, Keyless entry, 360 degree camera, spare wheel in boot are all fatal flaws. Thankfully, the new Kodiaq seems to address each of these, but has other gaps like missing ADAS and DCC. I think we may get some of these features in the next shipment, it could just have been the interplay of part/kit availability and allocation of specific kits to various markets globally. There is no other excuse for missing some of these basics.

[Jangra]

Originally Posted by robimahanta

Coming to E20, the car had the same E10 sticker and sales guy is blissfully unaware.

My trusted VW salesperson has confirmed its E20 compatibility. At ₹48.99 lakh, I think the pricing is fair for a CBU unit. Remember that nearly 60% of the on‑road price goes to the government in taxes and duties, so VW’s actual share of your ₹60‑lakh spend is only about ₹25 lakh.
It really stings to shell out ₹10*lakh in road tax, especially when our roads are riddled with potholes and under constant construction.

[gnome]

60L for a car that costs 30L in USA (and most countries). And no brand prestige either. Why would anyone but this?

[omranga98]

VW cars have gotten so expensive! I got my Taigun GT+ in 2022 for 19.2 on road. Same model with a few extra features is now for 22.75 in my city.

[KI07]

Overpriced, I would happily recommend anyone to go for the Q3, what is even the point of this?

[speedster786]

Volkswagen has always been appreciated for its timeless and understated design language. However, the alloy wheel design on this model feels uninspired. At this price point, the absence of features like a 360-degree camera and several other key additions makes the facelift feel rather underwhelming.

[pms]

Its really amazing to see how companies plan these products - no stir in the market, priced sky high with missing features that are available in cars 25% of this price and kill that aspiration some would have had to own this. Not sure what VW will gain launching this in Indian market.

Would have caused little more excitement if they came out with Golf or Polo GT version.

[Gazole]

Originally Posted by 84.monsoon

Keyless entry is a big miss, this was not pointed out by any of the reviews I have seen. Absence of Powered seats, ventilated seats, Keyless entry, 360 degree camera, spare wheel in boot are all fatal flaws. Thankfully, the new Kodiaq seems to address each of these, but has other gaps like missing ADAS and DCC. I think we may get some of these features in the next shipment, it could just have been the interplay of part/kit availability and allocation of specific kits to various markets globally. There is no other excuse for missing some of these basics.

what VAG what you to do is buy both the new Tiguan and the new Kodiaq to get the "perfect car" features between them... sigh!