[Anju]

Hyundai Getz would be replaced by i20 by next year end in Europe just the way Santro would make way for i10. I saw the spy pictures of i20, it too has sunroof the way i10 has. And looks more Muscular than the current subtle/decent look.

I am sure it would hit the Indian roads atleast by 2009.

Probably thats the reason why we are not seeing lot of spending on Getz promos.

This looks like another topic altogether !!(sorry)

Cheers
Anju

[vkochar]

This months ACI November issue has a comparison test of Swift Disel & Getz CRDi.

Swift wins by one point.

Swift - 9/10
Getz - 8/10

Reason - Swift Diesel gave a better FE ( + 2kpl over the getz ).

performance wise - the Getz left the Swift way behind. Also Comfort and Boot space was a huge advantage over the tiny Swift.

Now it is for the customer to decide if it is worth the extra 70,000 that the Getz is overpriced by. I certainly for one think it is worth it.

[Hyundai.Lover]

I read some where that hyundai will be launching a 1.3 vgt variant of the car and 50k cheaper than Swift. Don't know much about it. In i10 or Getz...
Some have any idea about it?
Most probably Getz next year.
(It may be an off topic, mods please take care of it )

[s0uljah]

Originally Posted by vkochar

performance wise - the Getz left the Swift way behind. Also Comfort and Boot space was a huge advantage over the tiny Swift.

Now it is for the customer to decide if it is worth the extra 70,000 that the Getz is overpriced by. I certainly for one think it is worth it.

Will pick up the mag shortly. They should have featured this in last months issue instead would have saved me a lot of time and headaches.

Can you elaborate what performance parameters the Getz beat the swift? Besides build quality and comfort of course. I dont feel like waiting till I read the mag. Lol.

I hope they havent charged the Swift with being sluggish before 2k rpm(turbo lag) because this was very much evident in the CRDI too.

Power is limited between 2 - 3.5k/4k rpms in the Getz if I remember right. The DDis is able to stretch till 5k comfortably atleast the TD car took it

Also Swift usually gets charged with cheap interiors/plastics, the CRDI is no different. Comparison with the petrol is unfair as that was a different avatar.

[rocksterraghu]

Originally Posted by vkochar

Now it is for the customer to decide if it is worth the extra 70,000 that the Getz is overpriced by. I certainly for one think it is worth it.

I second that. Even if the difference in power is not much, I'd still love to buy a Getz at +70k for the great legroom and boot space. I traveled (drove half way) from Hyderabad to Mysore in a Swift and cursed the Swift suspension all the way. I think Getz wins hands down when it comes to comfort.

[1100D]

What I still dont see here is anything about the handling.

Whether there has been a change in chassis tuning from the Petrol one, which does have the suspension being ride biassed.

Please note, I am not saying that the suspension is inefficient in the petrol car, it is just that the supension is tuned for ride rather than handling, and the Body has enough structural rigidity to carry off a firmer setting (nothing an enterprising owner cannot set right).

[Rahulkool]

According to OD

Getz Swift
0-60 4.92 5.10
0-80 7.77 8.79
0-100 11.01 13.26
40-100 in 4th 14.46 14.52
40-100 in 5th 24.4 20.22

[vishnugs]

Here is the gist of the article

Swift

+ Excellent Agility and Handling
+ Free revvy engine with very wide power band stretching upto 5000 rpm
+ Faster in in-gear acceleration
+ Better driveability despite Fixed Geom Turbo and Turbo lag
+ Fuel efficient 14.4 / 19.1 (City / Highway)
+ Stiff Suspension gives a good high speed handling
+ Good interior quality
- Looses to Getz in straight line tests

Getz

+ Very spacious cabin
+ Soft suspension takes bad roads with ease
+ Brighter interior with more storage space
+ Quicker than Ford 1.6 and Palio 1.6 (Petrols)
+ Useable boot space
- Shorter throw needs more downshifting
- Narrow power band tailing off around 4200 rpm
- Not very fuel efficient 12.6 / 16.2 (City / Highway)
- Bad handling, Torque steer in bad roads

Other stats

-----------Getz----Swift------
0-60------4.91----5.43
0-100----11.32---13.87

20-80----13.06---11.96
40-100---16.05---14.14

Braking

80-0----31.31m--28.09m

[rohan_fonseca]

Do we see some bias from ACI in that review?

[vibzez]

Originally Posted by vishnugs

Here is the gist of the article

20-80----13.06---11.96
40-100---16.05---14.14

Please also mention the gears used for the roll-on timings. ACI clearly mentioned that due to the tall gearing of the Getz, the roll-ons were not evenly matched. 5th gear 40-100kmh dash, the Getz rpm was at 800 something, while at that very same speed, the swift engine was turning around 1100 rpm. Thus the swift was closer to the powerband. A 60-120kmh run would have yielded very different results.

[BUSA]

Rockster - The ride of the Getz is very soft and much better then the Swift, whose ride is kinda harsh. For Comfort, Power, Ride its the Getz any day.

[thefreak]

Originally Posted by vishnugs

Swift:
Stiff Suspension gives a good high speed handling

Bad handling

I was given to believe that Swift does not handle all that well at high speeds! Maybe I was mistaken but that is what friends who own Swift have constantly griped about.

Also many of us may be willing to pay 70k extra for a comforts and all but then if we keep thinking of this 70k wise then we can probably reach the price of the Accord.

I feel that if I were to pay that much I would like a three box car. I would sooner spend a bit more and go for Fiesta or Logan or SX4.

PS: Strictly my opinion

[BUSA]

thefreak - For 70000 more you get double the drama in the Getz wrt Swift. So is it worth spending 70k more, hell yes.

SX4 doesnot come in diesel and Logan/Fiesta will be outrun by a Swift/Getz anyday, anywhere, so lets not get 3 boxes here.

[thefreak]

Originally Posted by BUSA

thefreak - For 70000 more you get double the drama in the Getz wrt Swift. So is it worth spending 70k more, hell yes.

SX4 doesnot come in diesel and Logan/Fiesta will be outrun by a Swift/Getz anyday, anywhere, so lets not get 3 boxes here.

Yeah sure as hell they will outrun Logan and Fiesta. But unless one is an enthusiast the three box versus the two box thing will come into the minds of many. And it will out run the SX4 too for sure.

Leave aside the enthusiasts (they constitute to a minute fraction of the Indian car market) most of the customers would aspire to have a three boxer than a hatchback. And those who are taking a hatchback because of size/economy/small car thing would probably be more inclined towards a cheaper and more economical Swift. People buying a car in that segment do not look at mind numbing speeds and/or acceleration. They look for economy and a low TCO.

The pricing is outrageous I think. Probably a 30k premium would be justifiable but 70k is way too much IMHO.

BTW long time no see on team-bhp for you?

[Sathya_sc]

It has been stated that getz top speed is 171kmph... even verna diesel is capable of doing 184 kmph (as per ACI)... i assume that getz should do better than verna's top speed... perplexed!!!!!! .... may be.. can some one throw some light on this difference in top speed.. has hyundai limited the speed in gerz diesel??

Also when i went through the article in ACI, looks like ACI is more biased towards Swift diesel... just my opinion only.....