[jpcoolguy]

Few observations on the May month sales figures:

1. No A segment cars and only 3 B segment cars in Top 20 - shows the level of increase of income of the Indian households.

2. Though Maruti have the Top 3 cars in its portfolio - Scorpio / Creta / Innova would be sitting on the Top 3 positions in terms of revenue / profit.

3. Kylaq have been a runaway success for Skoda - the effect is clearly shown in the numbers of Magnite and Kiger, both losing out more than expected. Kylaq helps Skoda leapfrog Honda.

4. Hyundai have just 2 cars - Creta and Venue inside Top 20, how the mighty have fallen. Once upon a time i20 used to out-sell Baleno sometimes, but now the rebadged Baleno (Glanza) is out-selling i20. Altroz too have fallen to 1/4th of its early day volumes.

5. Renault / Nissan can shut shop since their bread and butter models have already lost their sheen.

[maverick9888]

1) Tata Punch sales more than twice compared to Exter and Hyundai Venue itself sales more than Exter. This proves that consumers don't want a cheap micro SUV. Good interiors, safety are paramount no matter what segment you are in.

2) Stellantis has sold 609 vehicles altogether in May! That's a depressing number. I wonder how long can they survive like this in India.

3) Honda City, once is a crown jewel is a dying breed now. Honda needs to do something significant and they have to do it fast. Why can't they launch a Safari/XUV700 rival ? They have the Hybrid tech, they have SUVs in global portfolio.

4) Great to see Mahindra at No. 2 spot. XEV 9e clearly outshining its sibling, the BE 6. Thanks to our bad roads, Mahindra's market share will likely keep increasing.
The average ticket size of Mahindra vehicles is significantly higher than that of Maruti. So irrespective of absolute market share, Mahindra must be minting big money.

5) Nissan's corporate turmoil is clearly reflecting in its dwindling sales in India.
Lets see how serious they are about their new car launches for the Indian market.

6) Downward trajectory of Safari+Harrier sales is quite evident. Tata is loosing the SUV battle to Mahindra.

[Matrix_Maya]

Usual Suspects ! Same story being played on.
1. MS : on Top ( As usual)
2. Creta : The Lone warrior form Hyundai.
3. Innova Hycross : Evergreen Love story
4. Kylaq : Enfant terrible. But snatching the snacks from its siblings.
5. Honda : Hanging by Threads.
6. Nissan/Renault : One Trick Ponies.
7. stellantis : Why !!
8. Mahindra : Desi Boys.
9. Safari Twins : Another Puzzle. XUV 700 is not much better but sells many times more.

Things that amaze me (No Pun intended) : Honda Amaze is a better ( or as good as) car than Dzire but sells 10 Times less ! Can any one explain !

[autobahnjpr]

M&M continues its steady climb with good sales of all of its models. Who would have imagined Scorpio and Creta monthly sales volume will be very near to each other ? Frankly, today there is only creta to compete against thar roxx, xuv and scorpio in 18- 22 lakh segment. Tata seems to slipping a little while hyundai holds firm due to creta numbers.

Market share of Maruti continues to decline even though their models pull in good sales numbers. One reason I think is they have vacated the 18 lakh + segment all together. One good SUV and they will be able to claw back to regain their market share. Invicto is a dud.

In the rest of the pack, only Toyota and kia have managed than 5% market share while others are just fill in the blanks. Sad to see Honda sales numbers and wonder why they have given up on the Indian market.

I had mentioned in the last monthly sales thread that Maruti market share may slide to 35% by Diwali ( https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ml#post5973237 (April 2025 : Indian Car Sales Figures & Analysis) ) . Lets see what happens !

[sse]

Kudos to Mahindra. Selling 50,000 units 4 out of last 5 months is phenomenal considering Hyundai and TATA never breached 50,000 that consistently. Infact, Tata has breached 50K just once in the last 12 months.

TATA would desperately want Harrier EV to do well. Would be interested to see Altroz facelift & Harrier EV sales this month.

[Aninspire]

After getting used to Ford Aspire which I find very sturdy and reliable (my Petrol is not too powerful though), I was thinking of switching to a Honda in the future. Honda is not loaded with features but has enough for me. And it is sturdy, very reliable, and feels so much better to sit than Maruti cars.

But looking at these sad statistics month after month, I don't think I'll be able to get one. Ahhhh! :( Its another Ford fiasco in the making. I hate to think I'd have to succumb to one of the Top 4s (MS, Mahindra, Tata, Hyundai).

[i74js]

Originally Posted by Matrix_Maya

Things that amaze me (No Pun intended) : Honda Amaze is a better ( or as good as) car than Dzire but sells 10 Times less ! Can any one explain !

The high headedness of Honda and its dealer partners. They don’t respect perspective customer without confirming a bundle of cash or cheque book in hand. Same is with Honda; price increase of Amaze without gaining a foothold in the market of compact sedan.

Amaze was a "made to cost" product till last generation. Honda did amplify its chances of success in the market but didn’t sensitize its dealers on behavior. It’s not a cardinal sin to talk about Maruti Dzire at the Honda dealership or doing a comparison between two products. The Honda dealership sales adviser will switch off himself or become aggressive. These are firsthand observations.

Their lack of interest in letting the person get a test drive is of the next level “sir fuel kam hai, bas ek pas me round laga sakte hain”. Is this how businesses are done? They still believe in behaving like a maverick which they are certainly not!

[CafeRacer16]

Very sad state of sales at Honda, Skoda, VW. Its just disheartening to see such poor volumes for Elevate, Kushaq, Taigun, City, Slavia.

This also speaks volume about what happens when you don't get the basics right like poor NVH, poor AC, small form factor, creaky plastics.

Test drove a colleague's Elevate after Kushaq & the NVH was pathetic. As much as I hate to admit but found Creta 1.5NA CVT miles ahead of these two. Best part was when asked about discounts on Elevate & City, the Honda Sales person acted like they are selling Creta.

As much as we would like to support these brands by referring them in our circles, these issues are practical deal breakers. Heck even I wouldn't buy my next car from these brands.

I don't understand are the leadership here which have years of experience under their belt oblivious, just don't care or don't have the will power to fix these issues most of which are just basics.

I see Kylaq numbers have started to taper of as well & won't be surprised if they just drop by half in next 6 months.

Also very curious to know who are the 2 souls who bought Superb last month & how is it even available yet.

Sad for dealers who are plonking big bucks on the dealerships with no prospects of better sales. No wonder they fleece customers during service.

[Bane214]

Originally Posted by jpcoolguy

1. No A segment cars and only 3 B segment cars in Top 20 - shows the level of increase of income of the Indian households.

I would beg to differ here. The increase in the income of Indian households has not even matched the proportion by which prices of Indian cars (even the entry level hatchbacks) have increased over the last 10-15 years.

The presence of higher segment cars in top 20 is likely based on :

2. Easier availability of money (loans, overdrafts, credit cards etc.)
3. Snob value, both in terms of vehicle size and vehicle cost
1. Higher aspirations of today's generation, with less logical assessment of the actual needs from the car. A small family would buy a C2 segment SUV (Creta, Seltos, Kushaq etc), or heck even a XUV700, when the actual need could be fulfilled by a B2/C1 segment vehicle (Fronx, Nexon, 3XO, Kylaq etc.). Buying not because they need it, but because 'they can buy it'.

[Sidd_Kan]

Rise of Fronx = Fall of Baleno.

[Jupizire]

Why is Alcazar slotted in C2 segment, and not in D1? It is a 7 seater, and the buyers compare it with the likes of XUV7OO, Safari and Hector while making the purchase decision.
Likewise, Harrier is in D1 currently. It looks bulky for a 5 seater, but end of the day, it's compared with Creta, Grand Vitara, Taigun etc. for seats and features. So I think it should have been in C2.

[jaspal singh]

Maruti- Baleno + Fronx almost 25000 Units. Hyundai 4000 odd for i20 and Tata 2700 for Altroz , shows how much people trust Suzuki. Hyundai made a mistake by discontinuing diesel i20 and Verna. Both were segment leaders once.

Hyundai- hope they will climb back to number 3 once Next generation Venue is launched followed by Verna facelift later this year. Interesting product launches from next year will surely help in winning back market share.

Volkswagen- Decent numbers , Virtus a great product but depends on heavy discounting.

Honda- Never seen such a arrogant management, even a school going kid can devise a better marketing and product strategy. The overhyped ivtec engine is good only in manual trim, else Hyundai's NA + IVT combo is much more refined and drivable. A great car like City killed by providing a single power train since ages, ancient looking stereo, puny tyres compared to competition and arrogant sales team . Even in 2 wheelers they have come up with a stupid Activa E, hope Activa brand does not go the City path.

Tata- will surly regain some market from Mahindra once Harrier EV, Sierra EV, ICE is launched.

Mahindra- too much dependency on large diesel powered SUVs. Can backfire in coming years. EVs have made a good start though.

Skoda- Kylac numbers will go down once New Venue is launched. Kushaq almost dead, Slavia needs a facelift now.

Toyota- Same boring but reliable portfolio. Hycross needs competition from Hyundai/Kia.

Nissan ,Renault- future looks bleak.

KIA- doing well, new generation seltos will bring back numbers .

[NaviSwift07]

Tata has projected sales volume of around 6000 units per month for Curvv including EV. But it sells only around 3000 units per month which is 50% of what was Tata projected. Hope Sierra will come to the rescue for Tata in the highly competitive segment.

[beemer5499]

Originally Posted by Bane214

Snob value, both in terms of vehicle size and vehicle cost

Higher aspirations of today's generation, with less logical assessment of the actual needs from the car. A small family would buy a C2 segment SUV (Creta, Seltos, Kushaq etc), or heck even a XUV700, when the actual need could be fulfilled by a B2/C1 segment vehicle (Fronx, Nexon, 3XO, Kylaq etc.). Buying not because they need it, but because 'they can buy it'.

Well, these are funny points to make on a car enthusiast forum I’d say! Here, everyone I suppose purchases cars as per their wants and not needs.

No one would need a 200 bhp + corner holding car but as enthusiasts, we love our machines and thus make our purchases with our heart and not our brain solely.

If T-BHPians and other enthusiasts were buying cars as per the needs, only Dzire, Honda city and Innova would be selling in the market.

Of course, there are logical assessments too like some people buy a 4x4 or a pickup as per their needs and requirements.

[Bane214]

Originally Posted by beemer5499

Well, these are funny points to make on a car enthusiast forum I’d say! Here, everyone I suppose purchases cars as per their wants and not needs.

Agreed. My only point was that the buying has transitioned more into wants than needs over the last decade or so. And the income increase of the household has not been proportional to the increase in the car price of the households.

And the sales chart is pan India population, not limited to BHPians and enthusiasts.