Soon, your car will come with a mileage tag

balechaparka · 5th October 2007, 09:04

The government has decided to set up mandatory fuel efficiency standards for all class and type of vehicles, including cars, scooters, bikes, trucks, buses and three-wheelers.

Good news, Now cannot put add like 32..34 KM/L

Here is the linkSoon, your car will come with a mileage tag-India Business-Business-The Times of India

amohit · 5th October 2007, 11:26

i dont think much will change...
Only the fine print followed by 32 kmpl* will be little more bold.
There are loads of variables, manufacturers will always find ways to justify lower actual milage(driving style, quality of petrol, road condition, traffic condition, state of the car etc..)

But what interests me is
"Manufacturers could be penalised if their vehicles fail to meet these government-set norms.". Will be interesting to see how this will happen.

Also, does any one have more info on what kind of laws exist in US/Japan w.r.t milage?

Regards,

snaronikar · 5th October 2007, 11:29

Was waiting for this from a long time. At last Govt. has woken up and have decided to put a law. No more tall claims of the Auto companies that their cars are givng better mileage.

Sparkie · 5th October 2007, 11:30

A simple doubt which I would like to clarify. Is the government saying that they will launch fuel efficiency standards - like minimum fuel eff. - that have to be followed or simply saying that the manufacturer has to give a certificate claiming what mileage the vehicle would give and abiding by it(irrespective of if the mileage is high or low as long as it is within the limits given by the manufacturer)?

musicmanaman · 5th October 2007, 11:32

This is definetely a good development, if at all it comes into effect. Companies I'm sure will be very causious about what sticker clam they put on their cars, and would be nice to see, what happens if the claimed mileage is not achieved.

ravi@64bhp · 5th October 2007, 11:46

Mmmm.... really interesitng development. But then, will have to see how they calcualte the mileage?

kaushik_s · 5th October 2007, 11:50

So then we can sue the company if we don't get the mileage figure advertised right?;-)

snaronikar · 5th October 2007, 11:53

@musicmann: We can go to consumer court if the car does not give the specified mileage and can pull up the company for this under performance and low mileage

maxbhp · 5th October 2007, 11:55

What they really should do is get those cars advertising their so called *high* mileage cars and test them. If they find the claims absurd with respect to test figures the comany should be penalised for fooling our aam janata.

GTO · 5th October 2007, 12:01

If the authorities can implement reliable testing procedures, this is a move in the right direction. There is too much of rubbish floating around with 40 kpl "under ideal condition" Logan and Fiesta reports. Even the Overdrive highway mileage figures are nonsense (60 - 80 kph consistent cruising with no air-con). Also mentioned in the TOI article was that any car not meeting certain mileage requirements will not be allowed for sale. And that some low FE cars could be taxed higher.

However, the authorities need'nt worry too much as the consumer has already dictated. Which low FE car sells well in India

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What they really should do is get those cars advertising their so called *high* mileage cars and test them. If they find the claims absurd with respect to test figures the comany should be penalised for fooling our aam janata.

Great suggestion. Manufacturers who entertain these misleading ads must be penalised.

finneyp · 5th October 2007, 12:05

This is a good move by the Govt.

Will stop Car Makers being silent on actual FE figures & some Car makers quoting fancy figures!

skandyhere · 5th October 2007, 12:07

But one can always go to the consumer court alleging false advertising even in the current situation, right? I don't see what advantage we will henceforth have, apart from not having to shake our heads at unreasonable mileage claims.

gopz · 5th October 2007, 12:08

A real good move by the Govt!

Appreciated!

balechaparka · 5th October 2007, 12:30

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Originally Posted by maxbhp

What they really should do is get those cars advertising their so called *high* mileage cars and test them. If they find the claims absurd with respect to test figures the comany should be penalised for fooling our aam janata.

Yes this is good suggestion and this rule helpful in such cases.

mclaren1885 · 5th October 2007, 13:11

Either of the two things will happen:

1. Car companies will de-tune cars more to gain max FE.

2. Those who introduced these rules are not aware the "style of driving" varies FE figures by quite a margin. So there will always be people like me who like to redline go upto the company guys and sue them

for false data printing.

End result is, there is no good outcome out of this. Because the company will always add a clause saying "ideal test conditions" or "drivers nature of driving" is responsible or "traffic conditions" etc.

5th October 2007, 09:04	#1
balechaparka BANNED Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 140 Thanked: 33 Times	Soon, your car will come with a mileage tag The government has decided to set up mandatory fuel efficiency standards for all class and type of vehicles, including cars, scooters, bikes, trucks, buses and three-wheelers. Good news, Now cannot put add like 32..34 KM/L Here is the linkSoon, your car will come with a mileage tag-India Business-Business-The Times of India
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5th October 2007, 11:26	#2
amohit BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 451 Thanked: 52 Times	i dont think much will change... Only the fine print followed by 32 kmpl* will be little more bold. There are loads of variables, manufacturers will always find ways to justify lower actual milage(driving style, quality of petrol, road condition, traffic condition, state of the car etc..) But what interests me is "Manufacturers could be penalised if their vehicles fail to meet these government-set norms.". Will be interesting to see how this will happen. Also, does any one have more info on what kind of laws exist in US/Japan w.r.t milage? Regards,
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5th October 2007, 11:29	#3
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	Was waiting for this from a long time. At last Govt. has woken up and have decided to put a law. No more tall claims of the Auto companies that their cars are givng better mileage.
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5th October 2007, 11:30	#4
Sparkie BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chennai-not at home now Posts: 101 Thanked: 2 Times	A simple doubt which I would like to clarify. Is the government saying that they will launch fuel efficiency standards - like minimum fuel eff. - that have to be followed or simply saying that the manufacturer has to give a certificate claiming what mileage the vehicle would give and abiding by it(irrespective of if the mileage is high or low as long as it is within the limits given by the manufacturer)?
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musicmanaman BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: kolkata Posts: 927 Thanked: 25 Times	This is definetely a good development, if at all it comes into effect. Companies I'm sure will be very causious about what sticker clam they put on their cars, and would be nice to see, what happens if the claimed mileage is not achieved.
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ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 10 Times	Mmmm.... really interesitng development. But then, will have to see how they calcualte the mileage?
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kaushik_s Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,088 Thanked: 164 Times View My Garage	So then we can sue the company if we don't get the mileage figure advertised right?;-)
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snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	@musicmann: We can go to consumer court if the car does not give the specified mileage and can pull up the company for this under performance and low mileage
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5th October 2007, 11:55	#9
maxbhp Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: C C K Posts: 1,382 Thanked: 89 Times View My Garage	What they really should do is get those cars advertising their so called high mileage cars and test them. If they find the claims absurd with respect to test figures the comany should be penalised for fooling our aam janata.
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5th October 2007, 12:05	#11
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	This is a good move by the Govt. Will stop Car Makers being silent on actual FE figures & some Car makers quoting fancy figures!
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5th October 2007, 12:07	#12
skandyhere BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charlotte/Blore Posts: 347 Thanked: 92 Times	But one can always go to the consumer court alleging false advertising even in the current situation, right? I don't see what advantage we will henceforth have, apart from not having to shake our heads at unreasonable mileage claims.
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5th October 2007, 12:08	#13
gopz BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: India Posts: 452 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	A real good move by the Govt! Appreciated!
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5th October 2007, 13:11	#15
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	Either of the two things will happen: 1. Car companies will de-tune cars more to gain max FE. 2. Those who introduced these rules are not aware the "style of driving" varies FE figures by quite a margin. So there will always be people like me who like to redline go upto the company guys and sue them for false data printing. End result is, there is no good outcome out of this. Because the company will always add a clause saying "ideal test conditions" or "drivers nature of driving" is responsible or "traffic conditions" etc.
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