Hyundi Pa coming in Oct End.(EDIT: Now launched)

jkdas · 6th October 2007, 19:03

Hyundai rides on Pa as Santro slows down

PA aka Atos. Check the pricing in the above link.

Mpower · 6th October 2007, 19:28

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Originally Posted by amit

In the European markets, isn't Pa going to replace the Santro/Atoz?

Yes, but in India they will strip it and keep the old warhorse going. Just like the Alto and 800.

Ram · 6th October 2007, 19:45

Hyundai is itching to raise the price of its bottom-of-the-line car.

So the poor nine-year old Santro must be retired.
And its place filled with a car that will undoubtedly be dearer to buy (as in ... not endearing but certainly costlier)

Well once you've shelled out good money, it will be endearing as well (money always endears). Congrats Hyundai!

Then they will position it as better than Santro, newer than Getz.
With that positioning it can be as cheaply built as a Santro, yet as expensive to buy as Getz.

Ram

mrkanitkar · 6th October 2007, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravibhat

I feel Pa is promising one

I am looking for Automated small car I hope its Pa I am waiting for.

Regards,

Ravi.

Same here. Waiting for PA with AT.

amohit · 9th October 2007, 10:01

According to this artile in Economics times : Article Window

Pa is coming in next few weeks....
will be priced between Santro and getz.

So does that mean that Santro is not getting phased out?

Regards,

Tiger · 9th October 2007, 10:10

It will be interesting to see the specs. If they position it right it will draw some customer from Santro/Wagon R category & some from Getz/Swift/UVA category.
Expected to create a new segment alltogether.

indivic · 9th October 2007, 10:24

Hyundai indicated that they had no intention to phase out the Santro atleast for now, but I guess we will see a downward revision of the prices, plus a limited range to take on Alto, Indica etc

neoonwheels · 9th October 2007, 10:46

Being it a Hyundai, pricing will be a thing to look for.. They are famous for not-so-good pricing..

simonkayar · 9th October 2007, 11:39

I think they have already rationalized their Santro portfolio a week back with just 3 versions and the top ends at 3.46 lakhs ex-showroom price. So we might not see further price reduction in Santro (ofcourse good discounts might be there). And they will most probably launch the PA from 4 Lakhs onwards (base version) which will give 50k difference between Santro top end and PA base. That might not be the best strategy in pricing but that is what Hyundai would do (for all we know of them).

AMATMO · 9th October 2007, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiger

It will be interesting to see the specs. If they position it right it will draw some customer from Santro/Wagon R category & some from Getz/Swift/UVA category.
Expected to create a new segment alltogether.

NO tiger this segment already exists and has been here since the launch of indica

(neglecting M 800)
1st segment alto,santro,matiz

2nd segment zen,indica,palio,wagonR

3rd segment getz,aveo,swift

4th segment Fabia,SRV

so you can see from what i have highlighted that the only segment hyundai was missing was the 2nd one
maruti has its cars in each of the above segments
its the same segment which has wagonR,zen/estelio,indica and the palio

Tiger · 9th October 2007, 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMATMO

NO tiger this segment already exists and has been here since the launch of indica

(neglecting M 800)
1st segment alto,santro,matiz

2nd segment zen,indica,palio,wagonR

3rd segment getz,aveo,swift

so you can see from what i have highlighted that the only segment hyundai was missing was the 2nd one
maruti has its cars in each of the above segments
its the same segment which has wagonR,zen/estelio,indica and the palio

I think both santro & Spark is in Zen/WagonR catogory( by price). Santro is competing against Wagon R & not alto.
The problem Hyundai having is, if they price pa in 4lac(basic) bracket they will be in Swift category & if they price even 30k less than it will eat into santro sales.
Assuming they will price at 4lac, then the specs should be matching to Swift.
Any way they have a problem on hand.

blue2ki · 9th October 2007, 13:27

specs for this car anyone?

Zappo · 9th October 2007, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMATMO

(neglecting M 800)
1st segment alto,santro,matiz

2nd segment zen,indica,palio,wagonR

3rd segment getz,aveo,swift

I do not agree with your segmentation.

The first segment, the so called A-segment has the M800 and the Alto in it. Basically the sub-litre class. Tomorrow the Tata 1-lakh car will also be a part of this segment.

The B segment has the Santro, Indica, WagonR etc in it. Although Maruti tries a lot to claim that Alto is a B segment car most pundits will tell you that with a 800cc engine and such a compact size it is a A segment car after all.

The Swift, Getz, UVA bring in the B+ segment... and so the juggernaut rolls on.

mithun · 9th October 2007, 16:15

So Santro will be re-positioned in the A segment that will reduce the resale value of existing ones !

abhibh · 9th October 2007, 16:27

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The Pa, which will be slightly shorter than the Santro will initially sport a 1.1 litre engine, followed by higher engine options and a diesel version.

so it will be shorter than santro and will have a 1.1 and diesel will follow. So they want us to buy a shorter car than santro for 4 lacs

But is it shorter in height / length ???

6th October 2007, 19:03	#151
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Hyundai rides on Pa as Santro slows down PA aka Atos. Check the pricing in the above link.
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6th October 2007, 19:45	#153
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 219 Times View My Garage	Hyundai is itching to raise the price of its bottom-of-the-line car. So the poor nine-year old Santro must be retired. And its place filled with a car that will undoubtedly be dearer to buy (as in ... not endearing but certainly costlier) Well once you've shelled out good money, it will be endearing as well (money always endears). Congrats Hyundai! Then they will position it as better than Santro, newer than Getz. With that positioning it can be as cheaply built as a Santro, yet as expensive to buy as Getz. Ram
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9th October 2007, 10:01	#155
amohit BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 451 Thanked: 52 Times	Hyundi Pa coming in Oct End. According to this artile in Economics times : Article Window Pa is coming in next few weeks.... will be priced between Santro and getz. So does that mean that Santro is not getting phased out? Regards,
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9th October 2007, 10:10	#156
Tiger BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Blr -> Hyderabad Posts: 101 Thanked: 8 Times	It will be interesting to see the specs. If they position it right it will draw some customer from Santro/Wagon R category & some from Getz/Swift/UVA category. Expected to create a new segment alltogether.
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9th October 2007, 10:24	#157
indivic BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 837 Thanked: 195 Times	Hyundai indicated that they had no intention to phase out the Santro atleast for now, but I guess we will see a downward revision of the prices, plus a limited range to take on Alto, Indica etc
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9th October 2007, 10:46	#158
neoonwheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,065 Thanked: 1,877 Times View My Garage	Being it a Hyundai, pricing will be a thing to look for.. They are famous for not-so-good pricing..
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9th October 2007, 11:39	#159
simonkayar BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 163 Thanked: 91 Times View My Garage	I think they have already rationalized their Santro portfolio a week back with just 3 versions and the top ends at 3.46 lakhs ex-showroom price. So we might not see further price reduction in Santro (ofcourse good discounts might be there). And they will most probably launch the PA from 4 Lakhs onwards (base version) which will give 50k difference between Santro top end and PA base. That might not be the best strategy in pricing but that is what Hyundai would do (for all we know of them).
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9th October 2007, 13:27	#162
blue2ki BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: city of ghosts Posts: 185 Thanked: Once View My Garage	specs for this car anyone?
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9th October 2007, 16:15	#164
mithun BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 268 Times	So Santro will be re-positioned in the A segment that will reduce the resale value of existing ones !
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