This is the New Corolla

nitinchawla · 27th April 2008, 07:32

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Originally Posted by GTO

Doesn't anyone think that the new Corolla looks a lot like the existing gen? I am a car guy, and I did have to look twice to see the difference. To me, it only looked like a face lift.

Actually, Toyota is made up of a pretty self-contradictory bunch of managers. They complain that the average Toyota buyers age is shooting higher and higher......and then, they launch a new car which would only appeal to my Grandfather.

I think its little premature to pass a verdict on a car and the company much before the car is launched in India. Once the car is launched, only then will you be able to judge how good or bad the new one is

Its also not right to compare the Corolla here with the one in the US for two simple reasons
a) the version in the US is significantly different from the one in SE Asia (including the engine)
b) the Corolla is an Economy car in India. Its a 'small car' there. Even when I dove the Corolla there after having driven the Accord, Focus, Impala and the Grand Prix, I found the Corolla grossly plain and underpowered. So when your sample set is bigger more powerful cars, its never a fair comparison

khanak · 27th April 2008, 08:29

Looking at just the interior, the Corolla doesnt look half as good as the Civic. Its just too boring.

ST7677 · 27th April 2008, 12:53

I don't expect significant 'interesting' changes to Indian models.
Based on the versions I have seen in US vs India, you might only get some minor frills added without changing the dash/steering, etc.
Typical changes are
1. Alloys
2. Upholstery/Leather
3. some basic cosmetics and frills

jesal · 27th April 2008, 13:19

im wondering if civic sales will take a little dent after this car comes in. i hope civic gets a good discount rather than free insurance. whats this new civic thing i hear in july ?

metropolis · 27th April 2008, 18:30

The interiors are completely disappointing as compared to Civic. I dont think that it would affect the sales of Civic but SX4 might have to run an extra mile.

speedzak · 27th April 2008, 20:08

If we look at the Civic interiors, even the Camry doesn't have such a great interior to boast. So, I don't think that's not were Toyota is paying much attention on.

What about all those problems the current one has? All solved or not? I will be looking at those details if I was in the market to buy one Toyota in that price range. Believe me! There're many nuts like me who just looks out for Toyotas when buying a car. If there're some problems in that certain Toyota, then we will wait till those are solved and will be happy with some other car till then.

aravindwarrier · 27th April 2008, 20:42

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Originally Posted by speedzak

What about all those problems the current one has? All solved or not? I will be looking at those details if I was in the market to buy one Toyota in that price range. Believe me! There're many nuts like me who just looks out for Toyotas when buying a car. If there're some problems in that certain Toyota, then we will wait till those are solved and will be happy with some other car till then.

What problems? are there any known (serious) issues abt the current toyota(other than looks, low VFM) which puts you off from buying ?

speedzak · 27th April 2008, 21:06

There was never a serious issue in the current Corolla (as with all other Toyotas).
By the current problems, I meant was the complaints many had about the car. Like flimsy build quality (though, it never failed from it's job), very bland design, a bit of bling bling missing, uncomfortable ride in certain conditions, not so good interior trim etc.. to name a few which just sprang out in my mind (I'm a person who finds no fault in any Toyota).

GTO · 28th April 2008, 16:30

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I think its little premature to pass a verdict on a car and the company much before the car is launched in India. Once the car is launched, only then will you be able to judge how good or bad the new one is

It may be an F430 under the skin, but I am only talking about the looks. Compared to the super hot Civic, the new Corolla looks like a plain-jane toaster.

dhaval · 28th April 2008, 16:49

Anyways even the current Gen- Corolla is no stunner when compared to the Civic(and this i am only talking in terms of looks), but is certainly a good designed car in its own right. And the same holds true with the new look/ Gen Corolla. Afterall no two cars are compared just on the basis of looks, right??

LandCruiser · 28th April 2008, 17:30

Back of the car looks like "damaged" and not designed! How are they going to compete with the Civic!! No way! But may be reliability and pricing will help them to do better! Honda will anyway up the game!

CBlazer · 28th April 2008, 18:41

If the new Corolla looks anything like what ACI reports in the May 08 issue, it won't make any difference to the existing situation. Those who buy Civic due to it's modern looks, will continue to do so. And with such a face lift, I also don't see how Toyota will justify a price increase (which the dealers have been talking about) unless they come out with a host of new features.

From what I've heard, there is no engine change happening. And they will soon have additional competition from the VW Jetta diesel.

Having said that, I hear that the Corolla is taking away some sales from the Octavia Ambiente due to the huge discounts being offered on it. Skoda has reacted by offering discounts on the Ambiente.

bhanusrinivas · 28th April 2008, 19:24

I have seen the new Corolla here in Europe, it looks quite good in flesh,much better than the current generation

it looked like a squeezed camry, (same as NHC, as it looks like a squeezed Civic)

But no way near to the civic interior.

27th April 2008, 08:29	#167
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	Looking at just the interior, the Corolla doesnt look half as good as the Civic. Its just too boring.
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27th April 2008, 12:53	#168
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,054 Thanked: 73 Times	I don't expect significant 'interesting' changes to Indian models. Based on the versions I have seen in US vs India, you might only get some minor frills added without changing the dash/steering, etc. Typical changes are 1. Alloys 2. Upholstery/Leather 3. some basic cosmetics and frills
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27th April 2008, 13:19	#169
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	im wondering if civic sales will take a little dent after this car comes in. i hope civic gets a good discount rather than free insurance. whats this new civic thing i hear in july ?
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27th April 2008, 18:30	#170
metropolis BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 263 Thanked: 52 Times	The interiors are completely disappointing as compared to Civic. I dont think that it would affect the sales of Civic but SX4 might have to run an extra mile.
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27th April 2008, 20:08	#171
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	If we look at the Civic interiors, even the Camry doesn't have such a great interior to boast. So, I don't think that's not were Toyota is paying much attention on. What about all those problems the current one has? All solved or not? I will be looking at those details if I was in the market to buy one Toyota in that price range. Believe me! There're many nuts like me who just looks out for Toyotas when buying a car. If there're some problems in that certain Toyota, then we will wait till those are solved and will be happy with some other car till then.
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27th April 2008, 21:06	#173
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	There was never a serious issue in the current Corolla (as with all other Toyotas). By the current problems, I meant was the complaints many had about the car. Like flimsy build quality (though, it never failed from it's job), very bland design, a bit of bling bling missing, uncomfortable ride in certain conditions, not so good interior trim etc.. to name a few which just sprang out in my mind (I'm a person who finds no fault in any Toyota).
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28th April 2008, 16:49	#175
dhaval BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 404 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Anyways even the current Gen- Corolla is no stunner when compared to the Civic(and this i am only talking in terms of looks), but is certainly a good designed car in its own right. And the same holds true with the new look/ Gen Corolla. Afterall no two cars are compared just on the basis of looks, right??
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28th April 2008, 17:30	#176
LandCruiser BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 712 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	Back of the car looks like "damaged" and not designed! How are they going to compete with the Civic!! No way! But may be reliability and pricing will help them to do better! Honda will anyway up the game!
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28th April 2008, 18:41	#177
CBlazer BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 596 Thanked: 17 Times	If the new Corolla looks anything like what ACI reports in the May 08 issue, it won't make any difference to the existing situation. Those who buy Civic due to it's modern looks, will continue to do so. And with such a face lift, I also don't see how Toyota will justify a price increase (which the dealers have been talking about) unless they come out with a host of new features. From what I've heard, there is no engine change happening. And they will soon have additional competition from the VW Jetta diesel. Having said that, I hear that the Corolla is taking away some sales from the Octavia Ambiente due to the huge discounts being offered on it. Skoda has reacted by offering discounts on the Ambiente.
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28th April 2008, 19:24	#178
bhanusrinivas BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: hyderabad Posts: 104 Thanked: 0 Times	I have seen the new Corolla here in Europe, it looks quite good in flesh,much better than the current generation it looked like a squeezed camry, (same as NHC, as it looks like a squeezed Civic) But no way near to the civic interior.
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