Which are the cars the manufacturers RUINED by RE-DESIGN?

meghan · 23rd November 2007, 20:36

How come nobody thought about Daewoo Matiz >> Chevy Spark?
The back side of Spark looks really bad

And i also agree with scorpio, maruti 800(esp 2nd(1990) to 3rd(around 1999) generation)

RakishRam · 23rd November 2007, 20:46

BMW 3 series sedan looks better and aggressive than the latest 3 series coupe/M3.

Note:- Just my opinion.

rocksterraghu · 23rd November 2007, 22:13

Interesting thread. Except for Camry and Sonata, I have seen that older designs have been better in almost all cases.

I agree with many of you who mentioned Zen - I think the old Zen was a stunning machine!

rr_zen · 23rd November 2007, 22:26

First and foremost -> Maruti Zen
Secondly -> Honda CRV
Thirdly -> Honda Accord

nbr · 23rd November 2007, 22:59

1) New look OPTRA, SANTRO, ESTEEM, look neater after cosmetic surgery
2) GETZ, SAFARI, look worse after the make -up.

kkr2k2 · 23rd November 2007, 22:59

1. zen - estilo
2. ford ikon 1.6 - fiesta 1.4
3. ohc - nhc
4. qualis - innova
5. optra - new optra (shal we call them as OCO - old chevvy optra & NCO - new chevvy optra

)
6. santro zip - santro xing
7. accent - verna
8. sonata - emberra
9. baleno - sx4

just my 2 paise.

raj

agbenny · 23rd November 2007, 22:59

Palio front Gril - Its not good now as before
Optra front Gril - Looks awkward
First Generation Zen to the second gen.
Second gen Honda city
New Endeavour - Not looks good as the old one.
Tata Indica/Indigo - What they release as new gens are just jokes.
New scorpio Front Bumper and back lights - Looks silly to me.

D.V.R · 23rd November 2007, 22:59

I feel the new SUMO VICTA deserves a place in this thread

wheeler · 23rd November 2007, 23:00

my list would be...

1. zen estilo... what was maruti thinking badging this monstrocity as "ZEN"???

2. New Honda City... the old designwas a lot more appreciated and valued.

3. 2008 Honda Accord... did honda hire designers from Hyundai?

diabloo · 23rd November 2007, 23:21

Alto >>> Alto XFun (with body coloured wheel caps , new body graphics - The Hindu Business Line : Maruti launches Alto Xfun)
Ford Ikon >>> Ikon IKOOL (Music Edition, with IKool decal on front fenders - Ford India launches Ikon Ikool Music Edition, price, picture, features)
Ford Ikon >>> Ikon “Finesse” (with show stopping looks - Ford India launches Ikon NXT ‘Finesse’)
Aveo >>> Aveo Limted Edition (with an improved gear shift - The Hindu Business Line : Chevy Aveo limited edition)

diabloo · 23rd November 2007, 23:27

Isn't Fiesta looks way better than Ikon?

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Originally Posted by kkr2k2

2. ford ikon 1.6 - fiesta 1.4

Isn't Santro settled with 'Xing' looks after horribly experimenting with Zip, Zip drives, etc

Quote:

6. santro zip - santro xing

Isn't bland looks of Baleno better?

Quote:

9. baleno - sx4

kkr2k2 · 24th November 2007, 00:16

ITS just my personal opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by diabloo

Isn't Fiesta looks way better than Ikon?

i meant interms of the engine & perforamnce. The 1.6 rocam engine is better than the 1.4 Duratec.

Quote:

Originally Posted by diabloo

Isn't Santro settled with 'Xing' looks after horribly experimenting with Zip, Zip drives, etc

i felt the the zip can be zipped through traffic better than the xing, Xing looks big and difficult to zip around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by diabloo

Isn't bland looks of Baleno better?

i like the stance of the baleno, it doesnt look funny ateast, i like the rear of the car if only the car came with a better rear lights it would have been a looker.(thats why we have mods section

)

raj.

DirtyDan · 24th November 2007, 01:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.V.R

I feel the new SUMO VICTA deserves a place in this thread

Yeah, another case of putting lipstick on a pig. And it just ain't pretty that way either.

phamilyman · 24th November 2007, 02:33

and yes, I hope they don't redesign the Camry. The current one is beautiful. We got about 5-6 in our office and they are a joy to behold. would be sad if it goes back to a nondescript design like the previous version!

Torqy · 24th November 2007, 02:49

I just cannot find "design" in an ALTO.

It looked like Maruti wanted something new in the market and Alto was the hotch-potch result. It's not a cheap car in Indian terms. So a little aesthetics wouldn't have hurt. This is MY OPINION again......or is there anything wrong with my aesthetic sense?

23rd November 2007, 20:36	#31
meghan BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountain View Posts: 114 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Matiz??? How come nobody thought about Daewoo Matiz >> Chevy Spark? The back side of Spark looks really bad And i also agree with scorpio, maruti 800(esp 2nd(1990) to 3rd(around 1999) generation)
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23rd November 2007, 20:46	#32
RakishRam BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Kollam/Bangalor Posts: 320 Thanked: 194 Times View My Garage	BMW 3 series sedan looks better and aggressive than the latest 3 series coupe/M3. Note:- Just my opinion.
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23rd November 2007, 22:13	#33
rocksterraghu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 236 Times View My Garage	Interesting thread. Except for Camry and Sonata, I have seen that older designs have been better in almost all cases. I agree with many of you who mentioned Zen - I think the old Zen was a stunning machine!
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23rd November 2007, 22:26	#34
rr_zen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 1,799 Thanked: 400 Times View My Garage	First and foremost -> Maruti Zen Secondly -> Honda CRV Thirdly -> Honda Accord
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23rd November 2007, 22:59	#35
nbr BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MANGALORE/BALEHONNUR/DUBAI Posts: 438 Thanked: 47 Times View My Garage	1) New look OPTRA, SANTRO, ESTEEM, look neater after cosmetic surgery 2) GETZ, SAFARI, look worse after the make -up.
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23rd November 2007, 22:59	#36
kkr2k2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Melbourne, Hyd Posts: 1,294 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	1. zen - estilo 2. ford ikon 1.6 - fiesta 1.4 3. ohc - nhc 4. qualis - innova 5. optra - new optra (shal we call them as OCO - old chevvy optra & NCO - new chevvy optra) 6. santro zip - santro xing 7. accent - verna 8. sonata - emberra 9. baleno - sx4 just my 2 paise. raj Last edited by kkr2k2 : 23rd November 2007 at 23:03.
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23rd November 2007, 22:59	#37
agbenny Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: TN38 Posts: 1,069 Thanked: 276 Times	Palio front Gril - Its not good now as before Optra front Gril - Looks awkward First Generation Zen to the second gen. Second gen Honda city New Endeavour - Not looks good as the old one. Tata Indica/Indigo - What they release as new gens are just jokes. New scorpio Front Bumper and back lights - Looks silly to me.
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23rd November 2007, 22:59	#38
D.V.R BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney / Secunderabad Posts: 278 Thanked: 14 Times	I feel the new SUMO VICTA deserves a place in this thread
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23rd November 2007, 23:00	#39
wheeler BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DXB Posts: 261 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	my list would be... 1. zen estilo... what was maruti thinking badging this monstrocity as "ZEN"??? 2. New Honda City... the old designwas a lot more appreciated and valued. 3. 2008 Honda Accord... did honda hire designers from Hyundai?
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23rd November 2007, 23:21	#40
diabloo BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengalooru Posts: 1,480 Thanked: 17 Times	Alto >>> Alto XFun (with body coloured wheel caps , new body graphics - The Hindu Business Line : Maruti launches Alto Xfun) Ford Ikon >>> Ikon IKOOL (Music Edition, with IKool decal on front fenders - Ford India launches Ikon Ikool Music Edition, price, picture, features) Ford Ikon >>> Ikon “Finesse” (with show stopping looks - Ford India launches Ikon NXT ‘Finesse’) Aveo >>> Aveo Limted Edition (with an improved gear shift - The Hindu Business Line : Chevy Aveo limited edition)
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24th November 2007, 02:33	#44
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,641 Times	and yes, I hope they don't redesign the Camry. The current one is beautiful. We got about 5-6 in our office and they are a joy to behold. would be sad if it goes back to a nondescript design like the previous version!
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24th November 2007, 02:49	#45
Torqy BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 966 Thanked: 244 Times	I just cannot find "design" in an ALTO. It looked like Maruti wanted something new in the market and Alto was the hotch-potch result. It's not a cheap car in Indian terms. So a little aesthetics wouldn't have hurt. This is MY OPINION again......or is there anything wrong with my aesthetic sense?
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