[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

As i had stated in my post. A lot of vacent spaces under the hood. Is it helpful for performing same crash test getting 4 out of 5? or better or bad?

Does it really matter?

AFAIK, its not the engine components and other 'jam-packed' things inside the bonnet that takes the impact of a crash.

As long as the body structure is designed to take impacts to crumple-zones, it doesnt matter whether there is open space in the engine bay or not.

Also, baleno was known for free space in the engine bay, making it easier to do K&N and the likes.

[Hyundai.Lover]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Does it really matter?

AFAIK, its not the engine components and other 'jam-packed' things inside the bonnet that takes the impact of a crash.

As long as the body structure is designed to take impacts to crumple-zones, it doesnt matter whether there is open space in the engine bay or not.

Also, baleno was known for free space in the engine bay, making it easier to do K&N and the likes.

Nice ans. I thought components too are involved in the crash test. Need to search about it.

about K&N and for other mods.

[iTNerd]

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

SX4 has more security features than baleno like ABS (which is damn imp. for such cars). Baleno lacks just in ABS, rest? No offense but i don't trust airbags provided in SX4, so i'm neglecting that.

what about the ground clearance of sx4 in india and outside?
In india: 190 mm
Outside India: 175 mm

Here rising the car by 15 mm and adding a boot in india. Don't you think they messed up with the dynamics of the car which we don't notice.

2 cars with same width.... rising one of the car to get more ground clearance. Now which one will be more stable? The one whos body is high or the one with low ground clearance? Adding a boot, with the same wheel base? Stable than the previous one? I don't think so.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

Dunno if someone had an Emergency Sharp Turn at high speeds in SX4. If yes, please share your views on this point.

In NHC, we criticized so badly about not having safety features. In Civic, some people hated it for the lower GC. All justified. But the irony is that there are yet, people who are critical of SX4 even after providing ABS/Airbags/Ground Clearance. Baleno, a nice yesterday car, excites me (along with OHC). On the contrary, most people hated its design when it was launched intially. But people have come to live with it, and now, almost everyone spoke favorably. So, it's going to be the same story with new cars that have radical design (the most nearest example being NHC).

BTW, your comment and analysis remind me of a person - Ragneesh in Orkut and BlackSpawner in Mouthshut.com, where he posted (and of course dominated) the same lingo/thoughts on SX4 (versus Verna). And coincidently, he too was a die hard Hyundai Lover

[BlackPearl]

Originally Posted by iTNerd

So, it's going to be the same story with new cars that have radical design (the most nearest example being NHC).

yes, if the newer generation Honda city is even uglier than the current one

[rocksterraghu]

Just voted for Baleno.

I think the SX4 hatch looks much much better than the sedan. Besides, I don't like the gap between the hood and the headlamps in the front. I think it looks awful because of that.

[Hyundai.Lover]

Anyways, its a thread of looks, safety features was going OT.

Let us stick to the looks. hehe Baleno and SX4 going head to head.

[rjstyles69]

Dude hyundai.lover I suggest that you pop the hood of the baleno and the SX-4 and make your conclusion about the space available 1st.

Next drive a car with Airbags and ABS and do a crash test. If you are in one piece then make such a statement

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

No offense but i don't trust airbags provided in SX4, so i'm neglecting that.

You probably will realize the need for sucha safety feature.

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

Dunno if someone had an Emergency Sharp Turn at high speeds in SX4. If yes, please share your views on this point

Why not try it yourself when you have the time ?

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

Nice ans. I thought components too are involved in the crash test. Need to search about it.

Please do your search coz both the cars in question have been discussed extensively.

Also quoting Ram's initial post here (Looks comparison: Baleno and SX4) . The reason behind the whole discussion is to know what each t-bhp'ian thinks about both the cars.

I fail to understand the reason why you want to have someone try take an emergency turn at high speeds .

[Hyundai.Lover]

Originally Posted by rjstyles69

Dude hyundai.lover I suggest that you pop the hood of the baleno and the SX-4 and make your conclusion about the space available 1st.

Next drive a car with Airbags and ABS and do a crash test. If you are in one piece then make such a statement



You probably will realize the need for sucha safety feature.



Why not try it yourself when you have the time ?



Please do your search coz both the cars in question have been discussed extensively.

Also quoting Ram's initial post here (Looks comparison: Baleno and SX4) . The reason behind the whole discussion is to know what each t-bhp'ian thinks about both the cars.

I fail to understand the reason why you want to have someone try take an emergency turn at high speeds .

First, can you please stop being sarcastic and stop giving orders like
"Please do your search coz both the cars in question have been discussed extensively. " as i know what to do what not to do. Crazy_driver told me about it and i told him that may be i'm wrong so need to search. Whats wrong in it? or you wanna come into the highlights for no good reason?

2nd for emergency turns, i havnt asked anyone to do first then give reports. at high speeds, anything can come across your way. will try to save yourself or just ramm your car into the object? its just if anyone been into such emergency time, so the person is most welcome to share his experience in that.



chillpill dude please read my previous post. Let us stick to the looks, or i had to say 1000 times to make this thing clear "Stick to the looks of baleno and SX4". that thing is over, Security OT. relax.

[iTNerd]

Comeon guys, don't get into indepth insight on one person's view.. if one is not knowledgeable about certain feature of a car, then do help him in educating that aspect, instead of being personal

BTW, I don't know if its just me, but I find the build quality in Baleno Altura much better than the sedan version.

[shrivz]

The SX4 and baleno were both designed for 2.0litre and 1.8litre engines respectively.. both have a relatively roomy engine bay!

I fail to fathom why would someone think that the SX4 is unsafe because its engine bay is a little roomy!

Mr. hyundai.lover.. you have made a very baseless statement about not trusting the SX4's airbags!

I would really like to know why are you of such an opinion.. I myself wanna be aware of something which is potentially unsafe about the SX4's airbags, so that Suzuki can be informed about such negligence/shortcomings (if any).

A family member owns an SX4, and now due to that statement, I'm worried about his safety!

[Hyundai.Lover]

Originally Posted by iTNerd

Comeon guys, don't get into indepth insight on one person's view.. if one is not knowledgeable about certain feature of a car, then do help him in educating that aspect, instead of being personal

BTW, I don't know if its just me, but I find the build quality in Baleno Altura much better than the sedan version.

thanx iTNerd. Hope few of them should learn this point here instead of going after the person for no good reason. Cheers everyone and relax.

[Hyundai.Lover]

Originally Posted by shrivz

The SX4 and baleno were both designed for 2.0litre and 1.8litre engines respectively.. both have a relatively roomy engine bay!

I fail to fathom why would someone think that the SX4 is unsafe because its engine bay is a little roomy!

Mr. hyundai.lover.. you have made a very baseless statement about not trusting the SX4's airbags!

I would really like to know why are you of such an opinion.. I myself wanna be aware of something which is potentially unsafe about the SX4's airbags, so that Suzuki can be informed about such negligence/shortcomings (if any).

A family member owns an SX4, and now due to that statement, I'm worried about his safety!

yes, i realised its a baseless statement and i took my words back. Sorry. mods can edit that post of mine.

OT: Had anyone seen baleno's photoshop edit pic with a face lift with angel lights? I think i had seen it somewhere day back. It was looking awesome,
thanx.

[rjstyles69]

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

First, can you please stop being sarcastic and stop giving orders like
"Please do your search coz both the cars in question have been discussed extensively. " as i know what to do what not to do.

Good for you if you know what you need to be doing. No-one's being sarci here and passed orders and if your perception is that , sorry I cant help.

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

Crazy_driver told me about it and i told him that may be i'm wrong so need to search. Whats wrong in it? or you wanna come into the highlights for no good reason?

So you know where you stand and sorry I dint post for cheap thrills like you said. I know of someone who once posted a thread comparing the Baleno with a car which had mal-nutritioned horses for that so called coming into highlights you mentioned. The thread got closed abruptly.

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

Let us stick to the looks, or i had to say 1000 times to make this thing clear "Stick to the looks of baleno and SX4". that thing is over, Security OT. relax.

Thats the intention of my post # 82 where I clearly quoted Ram's initial post.

If you have something personal you wanna express , we have this added feature called PM's.I conjure we make the best use of it .

edit :

Originally Posted by iTNerd

Comeon guys, don't get into indepth insight on one person's view.. if one is not knowledgeable about certain feature of a car, then do help him in educating that aspect, instead of being personal

I respect what you said. Some prefer remaining the opp' of what you said .

[Akshay1234]

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

thanx iTNerd. Hope few of them should learn this point here instead of going after the person for no good reason. Cheers everyone and relax.

everyone is going after you because of that accent vs baleno thread.

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

yes, i realised its a baseless statement and i took my words back. Sorry. mods can edit that post of mine.

OT: Had anyone seen baleno's photoshop edit pic with a face lift with angel lights? I think i had seen it somewhere day back. It was looking awesome,
thanx.

that is memo_45ms display pic. it used to be his baleno. he had put golf headlights with angel eyes on it i think.

[rjstyles69]

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

OT: Had anyone seen baleno's photoshop edit pic with a face lift with angel lights? I think i had seen it somewhere day back. It was looking awesome,
thanx.

You can find memo's angel eyes thread here (Dressing up a BALENO!!) .