ABS for Palio 1.6

solly · 9th December 2007, 15:55

I have a 2001 Palio 1.6 GTX and am in love with it!! I feel it's one of the most sensible fast cars for our bad roads.. Mine is a non ABS version. Can anyone tell me what needs to be done to fit the ABS from the GTX SP version on to my car. Also how much will it cost?

Solly

sreenivass · 9th December 2007, 16:39

I was told by Fiat its not possible and I gather its not reliable/ safe to do after market fitting, its for my Petra 1.6.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 9th December 2007, 16:40

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Originally Posted by solly

Can anyone tell me what needs to be done to fit the ABS from the GTX SP version on to my car. Also how much will it cost?
Solly

I think the main question is- How to source the parts?

Also, getting such an important job done is not going to be too reliable. And might be expensive as well.

Anyways, PM moralfibre. I think he may be able to anwer the question well.

WYN · 9th December 2007, 16:56

Hi Solly..
Do you know of anyone who has done it before?

I doubt it! As far as I know, ABS is something which can't be fixed on a Non-ABS version vehicle (not just on the Palio but any car). It involves lot of specific components, sensors and Elec. control modules. Till date I have never really heard of such a conversion that has been done. Its probably beyond the scope of even the best workshops around, unless otherwise someone really has access to proper factory support, service manuals, installation guides & components etc.

I always advise my friends, spend a little eXtra cash and go in for atleast a ABS option on any car they buy. Like on the SWIFT VXI (with ABS option) is about Rs. 20,000 Extra and I say its worth it.

Hope the little info (to the best of my knowledge) helps.

solly · 10th December 2007, 19:18

Sreenivass

Did you get the -ve from Fiat or from the dealer/ service center?

Crazy driver!!

If Palio came with an ABS option, we might be able to source the parts. Also we might be able to source some after market kit or from a totaled GTX SP!! Ok I'll PM moralfibre.

WYN

I don't think it will be too difficult a task. Ya I agree its not going to be easy but since there was a Palio model with ABS, It should not be too difficult.

Solly

TURBOSAM · 13th December 2007, 14:14

u can do that but it will cost a bomb.
all 4 wheel hubs , all the braking lines.. fix new abs ecu+unit... changes in cluster... wil cos u close to 50k!!!!

f u still want to do it .. i can.... and am ready...

speed_devil · 13th December 2007, 14:58

I don't think retro fitting ABS on a non ABS car is a good idea. apart from the cost involved , reliability may be a concern.
You don't want the brakes giving up on you when you need them the most, do u.

Firebird · 13th December 2007, 19:53

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Originally Posted by TURBOSAM

u can do that but it will cost a bomb.
all 4 wheel hubs , all the braking lines.. fix new abs ecu+unit... changes in cluster... wil cos u close to 50k!!!!

f u still want to do it .. i can.... and am ready...

Hey Turbosam, you are laughing out loud....are you serious? If yes, then would like to know more info on that.

simonkayar · 14th December 2007, 12:00

Hi, even if it is viable economically it would not be a good decision. Retro fittings are not done properly and to take a risk with ABS would not be proper.

TURBOSAM · 16th December 2007, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonkayar

Hi, even if it is viable economically it would not be a good decision. Retro fittings are not done properly and to take a risk with ABS would not be proper.

sorry!!!
when i said the job can be done that means it can be done in a very good 100%reliable way.
it involves .. all 4 wheel hubs+4 sensors, ecu+wiring harness,all the plumbing+the motors+all the pressure joints+the cluster indicator ALL PROVIDED BY FIAT under their std. part numbers, fitted by one of the most qualified person by fiat trainings...+8trs of fiat only experience
so reliability is as good only as oem...its assumed

moralfibre · 16th December 2007, 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by TURBOSAM

sorry!!!
when i said the job can be done that means it can be done in a very good 100%reliable way.
it involves .. all 4 wheel hubs+4 sensors, ecu+wiring harness,all the plumbing+the motors+all the pressure joints+the cluster indicator ALL PROVIDED BY FIAT under their std. part numbers, fitted by one of the most qualified person by fiat trainings...+8trs of fiat only experience
so reliability is as good only as oem...its assumed

Can you tell me costing involved in detail including labour costs to do a conversion? I am interested.

Firebird · 16th December 2007, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by moralfibre

Can you tell me costing involved in detail including labour costs to do a conversion? I am interested.

Well, even I am interested, that's the only thing lacks in my Palio, unfortunately there was no option available in 2006 when I bought.

TS - Can you please try and fixup something so as to get ABS on 1.6.

sreenivass · 16th December 2007, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by solly

Sreenivass

Did you get the -ve from Fiat or from the dealer/ service center?

Crazy driver!!

If Palio came with an ABS option, we might be able to source the parts. Also we might be able to source some after market kit or from a totaled GTX SP!! Ok I'll PM moralfibre.

WYN

I don't think it will be too difficult a task. Ya I agree its not going to be easy but since there was a Palio model with ABS, It should not be too difficult.

Solly

Its the dealer that said no to me. I received a -ve even to install electrically operated wing mirrors. They said installation of the mirrors is not a problem, but they could give lot of problems.

Now my answer may be a kind of irrelevant because turbosam seems capable of doing it.

Firebird · 17th December 2007, 16:48

I find most of the time, dealers are lazy and donot want to get into complecated stuff.

BUSA · 18th December 2007, 00:00

Is it possible - Yes
Is it advisable - No

Guys dont mess with your brakes, it can be dangerous, put what ever engine mods, ICE but never fiddle with your brakes IMO.

9th December 2007, 15:55	#1
solly BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 150 Thanked: Once	ABS for Palio 1.6 I have a 2001 Palio 1.6 GTX and am in love with it!! I feel it's one of the most sensible fast cars for our bad roads.. Mine is a non ABS version. Can anyone tell me what needs to be done to fit the ABS from the GTX SP version on to my car. Also how much will it cost? Solly
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9th December 2007, 16:39	#2
sreenivass BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore India Posts: 932 Thanked: 44 Times View My Garage	I was told by Fiat its not possible and I gather its not reliable/ safe to do after market fitting, its for my Petra 1.6.
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9th December 2007, 16:56	#4
WYN Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: GOA Posts: 18 Thanked: 7 Times	Hi Solly.. Do you know of anyone who has done it before? I doubt it! As far as I know, ABS is something which can't be fixed on a Non-ABS version vehicle (not just on the Palio but any car). It involves lot of specific components, sensors and Elec. control modules. Till date I have never really heard of such a conversion that has been done. Its probably beyond the scope of even the best workshops around, unless otherwise someone really has access to proper factory support, service manuals, installation guides & components etc. I always advise my friends, spend a little eXtra cash and go in for atleast a ABS option on any car they buy. Like on the SWIFT VXI (with ABS option) is about Rs. 20,000 Extra and I say its worth it. Hope the little info (to the best of my knowledge) helps.
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10th December 2007, 19:18	#5
solly BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 150 Thanked: Once	Sreenivass Did you get the -ve from Fiat or from the dealer/ service center? Crazy driver!! If Palio came with an ABS option, we might be able to source the parts. Also we might be able to source some after market kit or from a totaled GTX SP!! Ok I'll PM moralfibre. WYN I don't think it will be too difficult a task. Ya I agree its not going to be easy but since there was a Palio model with ABS, It should not be too difficult. Solly
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13th December 2007, 14:14	#6
TURBOSAM BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: pune Posts: 241 Thanked: 2 Times	yes!! u can do that but it will cost a bomb. all 4 wheel hubs , all the braking lines.. fix new abs ecu+unit... changes in cluster... wil cos u close to 50k!!!! f u still want to do it .. i can.... and am ready...
	() Thanks

13th December 2007, 14:58	#7
speed_devil BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mangalore\hyderabad Posts: 91 Thanked: 0 Times	I don't think retro fitting ABS on a non ABS car is a good idea. apart from the cost involved , reliability may be a concern. You don't want the brakes giving up on you when you need them the most, do u.
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14th December 2007, 12:00	#9
simonkayar BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 163 Thanked: 91 Times View My Garage	Hi, even if it is viable economically it would not be a good decision. Retro fittings are not done properly and to take a risk with ABS would not be proper.
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17th December 2007, 16:48	#14
Firebird BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai / EC1M 3NH Posts: 470 Thanked: 65 Times View My Garage	I find most of the time, dealers are lazy and donot want to get into complecated stuff.
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18th December 2007, 00:00	#15
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Is it possible - Yes Is it advisable - No Guys dont mess with your brakes, it can be dangerous, put what ever engine mods, ICE but never fiddle with your brakes IMO.
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