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Old 8th February 2009, 09:59   #31
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How much power and torque did the Indian versions of the E220 and E250 produce each in the W124 chassis variant?
You can find the general specs here Mercedes-Benz E W124-E 220 (124.022)

Indian E220 and E250D were speed limited to 180 Km/h, running India specific ECU.

E220 Petrol was de-tuned, specs below

1) Compression ratio is 8.5:1 v/s 10:1
2) Max Bhp is 146 v/s 150 (Max torque is same)
3) Higher fuel consumption.
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Old 9th February 2009, 10:00   #32
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This link (though info is old) could be useful for W124 aspirants,
Buying Used Mercedes-Benz E-Class (W124) [1995-1997]
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Old 9th February 2009, 10:28   #33
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Top Gear or 5thGear , one of them had an episode where in the 250D was made to run on Vegetable fat and conclusion was there are no complications at all! It was quite funny watching the host stop by Fish and Chips shops asking for their throwaway frying oil.

Dunno what this signifies , but just thought id mention it to help make your choice.

This is for anyone reading this and making their decision , not for the Thread starter if he's already bought his ride yrs ago :-).

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Old 9th February 2009, 10:52   #34
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Well I will buy only super silent Petrol Merce for utmost comfort. (Rather going for vibrating money saver diesel.

(well this question arise only when i can afford though)
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Old 9th August 2009, 08:22   #35
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I am not sure about Petrol at all.

I have still never driven the Petrol Merc ever.

I love the Diesel and it is not so noisy.

I have heard the Petrol Merc on the Road and it just as noisy.

Anyone in Mumbai have an E 220 that I can drive to see how it is ?
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Ideally I will buy both! Managed to lay my hands on a e220 now will scout and save for a e250. After all its the last great mercedes built!
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Old 16th February 2010, 09:58   #37
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E220, simply because the e250 would be too slow to accelerate.

I had a TD of a '96 E220 some time back, have been too busy thereafter.

Only problem(maybe) i could see was that the car would stall. Is it a common problem..or do i not know how to drive it?
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Old 16th February 2010, 10:40   #38
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I had noticed that too they stall especially at traffic signals. And its a pain to switch off fully and then restart!
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Old 17th February 2010, 12:20   #39
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I had noticed that too they stall especially at traffic signals. And its a pain to switch off fully and then restart!
Exactly!

Is this a common problem..or do i not know how to drive them properly?

I thought there was something wrong with the car. I just ignored the dealer's "Ispe race jaada deni padti hai" statement as part of his sales pitch to cover up a defect. The car was absolutely flawless otherwise.

Some info on this topic would be very helpful.
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Well, I've driven fairly new E220s at the time of their launch, and remember that she always required generous revvs when moving from a standstill. I don't think its a defective used example at all, though you must always get a professional evaluation done before buying any used Merc.

Could be the torque delivery characteristics of that engine. The C180 petrol had this problem too.
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The E220 was in its element after 2000 rpm. Before that many would have thought of it as a problematic and slugggish engine. Nor so with the E250D though. Linear power throughout the band and responsive when you wanted to overtake. You cant compare with the Crds and Tdis of today.

Ideally i would like to have one of each. Rugged build quality and a go anywhere vehicle. The diesel was a hot favourite because of the mileage but I have constantly getting 12+ on the E220 on long runs. Shift into the 5th and cruise along. I would love to have both with leather and automatic transmissions, though on the petrol, due to its initial sluggish behaviour, the manual would be a better car to drive if one was driving oneself.
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The Car stalling only can show Bad Driving Habits.

The 250 is absolutely great and can put to shame any TDI and CDI.

The 250 is an Absolute Cruiser on the Highway.
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for E 250 D. last long!! really long!!!! and greener too. some day i will!!
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Old 2nd March 2010, 19:42   #44
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E 250D any day. The W124 is a luxo barge, I would not be revving the pants off it, so diesel makes sense with all that torque helping things along.
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E 250D any day. The W124 is a luxo barge, I would not be revving the pants off it, so diesel makes sense with all that torque helping things along.
Actually the petrol E220 has more torque (210 Nm) as compared to the E250D (173Nm). However the E250D has the advantage of all that torque coming in at lower rpm.
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