TATA finally bags the Jaguar and Landrover deal

Tstag · 3rd April 2008, 01:28

I think the deal will work very differently to the way most of you are looking at it. I don't think it will be a lift and shift to India, I actually envisage more of a partnership. I think:

- Defender will become more like the Toyota Land Crusier in production terms and will be made in India and Britain (it's iconic to Britain so I doubt TATA will dare lift and shift it as it could kill Land Rover in the UK).

- Models like the TATA Indica will be restyled as Rovers and made in Britain and India in medium term. Short term production may occur in India only. Rover will become TATA's European brand not TATA which sounds too much like Tatty in English.

- JLR will take control of TATA R&D to bring them up to Ford standards of build quality.

- Land Rover parts will filter down into TATA products like the Sumo.

- Jag will not enter the Indian car market for a decade at least.

Steeroid · 3rd April 2008, 07:19

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Originally Posted by F50

Congrats to Tatas!!

So, MoralFibre has already spotted a Indica Jag.

I just wish that they launch Jaguar Xeta and Land Rover Dicor!!

With Fiat Multijet engine options, please - so that MF and Finney can buy them.

moralfibre · 3rd April 2008, 07:26

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

With Fiat Multijet engine options, please - so that MF and Finney can buy them.

OT

I would choose the V2 NA diesel engine. My office car did Pune-Bombay-Pune in Rs. 500/- worth of diesel with 5 team-bhpians on board in 100% AC. We were doing 100 - 120 kmph all the way. I want that Indica.
(This was a budget trip to the Speed run and not to forget Shrivz was on board as well)

dreadcontrola · 3rd April 2008, 22:54

Just a link to little related thread for those of you who dont usualy get over to the motor sport section

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motor-...n-history.html

cheers D

khanak · 4th April 2008, 04:36

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

Finney can buy them.

Steeroid - Are Jags and LRs built like a tank?

dhaval · 5th April 2008, 01:30

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

The first Indica Jaguar has already rolled out of the plant

And they have started selling them as cabs too..(the "T" sticker below the tata logo)

SirAlec · 5th April 2008, 01:48

I think, part of the deal disallows TATA to built both of them in India. its sad because the price will be much higher if sold in india.

I hope herioc Army gets the more capable Defenders and Pink Panthers. They deserve it by all means.

FYI, india already had landrovers since 60s, and my hometown DJ, is the place which has the history attach to it. Even BBC visited the place for an article as most of the landrovers ('54 model) found in darjeeling were very rare even in britain, which the taxi drivers who were majority of owners didn't knew their value.

Now most of them are extinct, as majority of the mechanic who were expert in them either died or are very old to work. Also the lack of parts is a huge setback.

sandeepmdas · 4th May 2008, 18:15

Guys, this seems a positive turn....

Daimler Chief Executive Dieter Zetsche would be interested in a cooperation with carmakers Jaguar and Land Rover, according to a report in a German trade magazine....

"If (chairman) Ratan Tata would approach us in regard to supplying components, we would be open to talks," Zetsche said, adding Daimler had no plans to increase its stake in Tata.

Story here:
Daimler mulls Jaguar, Land Rover cooperation - paper

3rd April 2008, 01:28	#46
Tstag BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Coventry Posts: 73 Thanked: 9 Times	I think the deal will work very differently to the way most of you are looking at it. I don't think it will be a lift and shift to India, I actually envisage more of a partnership. I think: - Defender will become more like the Toyota Land Crusier in production terms and will be made in India and Britain (it's iconic to Britain so I doubt TATA will dare lift and shift it as it could kill Land Rover in the UK). - Models like the TATA Indica will be restyled as Rovers and made in Britain and India in medium term. Short term production may occur in India only. Rover will become TATA's European brand not TATA which sounds too much like Tatty in English. - JLR will take control of TATA R&D to bring them up to Ford standards of build quality. - Land Rover parts will filter down into TATA products like the Sumo. - Jag will not enter the Indian car market for a decade at least.
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3rd April 2008, 22:54	#49
dreadcontrola BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Posts: 33 Thanked: 0 Times	Just a link to little related thread for those of you who dont usualy get over to the motor sport section http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motor-...n-history.html cheers D
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5th April 2008, 01:48	#52
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	I think, part of the deal disallows TATA to built both of them in India. its sad because the price will be much higher if sold in india. I hope herioc Army gets the more capable Defenders and Pink Panthers. They deserve it by all means. FYI, india already had landrovers since 60s, and my hometown DJ, is the place which has the history attach to it. Even BBC visited the place for an article as most of the landrovers ('54 model) found in darjeeling were very rare even in britain, which the taxi drivers who were majority of owners didn't knew their value. Now most of them are extinct, as majority of the mechanic who were expert in them either died or are very old to work. Also the lack of parts is a huge setback.
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4th May 2008, 18:15	#53
sandeepmdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Varkala Posts: 1,536 Thanked: 2,489 Times	Merc components for JLR? Guys, this seems a positive turn.... Daimler Chief Executive Dieter Zetsche would be interested in a cooperation with carmakers Jaguar and Land Rover, according to a report in a German trade magazine.... "If (chairman) Ratan Tata would approach us in regard to supplying components, we would be open to talks," Zetsche said, adding Daimler had no plans to increase its stake in Tata. Story here: Daimler mulls Jaguar, Land Rover cooperation - paper
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