When will Innova be Phased Out like Quallis

students · 30th March 2008, 22:43

As you might be knowing innova became more a taxi care just as how quallis is .

Toyota Slowly phased out Quallis and introduced Innova.

When will Innova be phased out and what will replace it ?

GTO - Touring · 31st March 2008, 00:00

The current-gen Innova can safely be expected to have *atleast* a 6 year life-cycle. Thus, I dont think its going to be phased out anytime soon. The case with the Qualis was different; it was outdated at the time of launch unlike the Innova which can still be termed as contemporary.

RPMPKDMFF · 31st March 2008, 00:24

The Innova & Qualis are pretty much in the same segment, and ultimately one of them had to go, if not Toyota would be fighting against itself for market share... the options to let the Qualis go was right was the simple fact that it was dated and did not have much in comforts to be offered when compared with the Innova.

Also if there is an upper class market for such MPVs in today's Indian market, then Toyota would be wise to introduce their larger MPV - the Previa into the local arena.

eclectix 1st · 31st March 2008, 00:27

Forget the question of outdated model. Innova does not have a decent competition in its class.

Only if & when there is a competition Toyota might have to think about it. There is no point in cannibalising a cash cow like innova.
cheers:

abhibh · 31st March 2008, 00:31

Why would someone wanna Phase Innova. Its a great MUV. I dont think it will be phased out anytime before ~2012

theMAG · 31st March 2008, 00:44

Culling the Innova will result in Toyota killing its only source of revenue in India - considering its other models dont seem to be adding too much to its revenues. So, its unlikely to happen until Toyota introduces another bread-earner for themselves.

DirtyDan · 31st March 2008, 02:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by eclectix 1st

Forget the question of outdated model. Innova does not have a decent competition in its class.

Only if & when there is a competition Toyota might have to think about it. There is no point in cannibalising a cash cow like innova.
cheers:

The new Sumo Grande may take a bite out of Innova's sandwich. Not that it can compete in terms of quality but the Tour and Travel people will opt for Sumo Grande's low initial cost. Chevrolet Tavera may answer with a new model as well. Mahindra's Ingenio will also be on the market soon.

simplythebest · 31st March 2008, 08:16

We indians are very hard to satisfy.

I know people were unhappy that cars like the OHC, accord and qualis were phased out. Mainly because the re-sale value would take a hit.

On the other hand, I can't stand what skoda has done with the octavia and other similar cars like the ikon, accent etc.

What should manufacturers do? Have a vote?

karanraheja · 31st March 2008, 10:01

As GTO has pointed out rightly, Qualis was an outdated model while it
was launched in India. So it had to be phased out Soon. I dont think its the
same case with the Innova. Innova is a brilliant MUV , cant understand why
Toyota is taking its own sweet time to give it a minor facelift atleast.
Innova will have competition directly with Tata Crossover which might be launched 2009-10. So thats some more time. But Tata still has to improve
its overall build quality to compete with Innova directly. Innova should be
in the market for atleast 2-3 years.

vasudeva · 31st March 2008, 10:21

Since Innova was launched in 2005 (and was a new model then), do not expect a new model to replace it at before 2010 (most likely 2011-12). Innova sales have been steadily growing with new launches hardly making a permanent dent in its sales.

deepaktpatil · 31st March 2008, 10:24

Guys,

As per a reliable source for information, Qualis was phased because of its dyes (moulds) were about to be 20years old and replacing them would have been costly, hence the decision to go for new model which was Innova.

I dont think Innova would be replaced like Qualis. Best we can hope for is an upgrade.

Sahil · 31st March 2008, 10:31

When Qualis was being phased out we thought it's going to hard for Toyota to match such a winner.
Now with the Innova its going to be twice as hard for Toyota so i guess they will take their own sweet time to come up with another winner.
Until then the Innova has some more time in production.

snaronikar · 31st March 2008, 11:47

Innova will not be phased out as it is manufactured only in 8 countries and marketed to 45 other countries worldwide. This is the new concept which was developed by Japanese. Innova has around 12 variants throughout world. If one model is phased out, the other model with new look will take over but on the same platform.

fx45 · 31st March 2008, 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaronikar

Innova will not be phased out as it is manufactured only in 8 countries and marketed to 45 other countries worldwide. This is the new concept which was developed by Japanese. Innova has around 12 variants throughout world. If one model is phased out, the other model with new look will take over but on the same platform.

i agree with you on that.. .. and i am sure it will be here until 2012 easily. but with minor face lifting done.

dhaval · 9th April 2008, 23:46

I think the Innova will not be phased out any time soon. It commands a considerable market share both as in for commercial use(as a tourist vehicle) as well as for personal use. And IMO it hardly has any competition from Tavera. One interesting fact shared by a bhpain during our meet was; the cost of producing an Innova is less than the cost of producing a Qualis, though Innova is costlier than Qualis.

30th March 2008, 22:43	#1
students BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 28 Thanked: 0 Times	When will Innova be Phased Out like Quallis As you might be knowing innova became more a taxi care just as how quallis is . Toyota Slowly phased out Quallis and introduced Innova. When will Innova be phased out and what will replace it ?
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31st March 2008, 00:00	#2
GTO - Touring BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 710 Thanked: 54 Times	The current-gen Innova can safely be expected to have atleast a 6 year life-cycle. Thus, I dont think its going to be phased out anytime soon. The case with the Qualis was different; it was outdated at the time of launch unlike the Innova which can still be termed as contemporary.
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31st March 2008, 00:24	#3
RPMPKDMFF BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sharjah Posts: 169 Thanked: 29 Times	The Innova & Qualis are pretty much in the same segment, and ultimately one of them had to go, if not Toyota would be fighting against itself for market share... the options to let the Qualis go was right was the simple fact that it was dated and did not have much in comforts to be offered when compared with the Innova. Also if there is an upper class market for such MPVs in today's Indian market, then Toyota would be wise to introduce their larger MPV - the Previa into the local arena.
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31st March 2008, 00:27	#4
eclectix 1st BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 381 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Forget the question of outdated model. Innova does not have a decent competition in its class. Only if & when there is a competition Toyota might have to think about it. There is no point in cannibalising a cash cow like innova. cheers:
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31st March 2008, 00:31	#5
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	Why would someone wanna Phase Innova. Its a great MUV. I dont think it will be phased out anytime before ~2012 Last edited by GTO : 31st March 2008 at 10:33. Reason: gr8 = great
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31st March 2008, 00:44	#6
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,807 Times View My Garage	Culling the Innova will result in Toyota killing its only source of revenue in India - considering its other models dont seem to be adding too much to its revenues. So, its unlikely to happen until Toyota introduces another bread-earner for themselves.
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31st March 2008, 08:16	#8
simplythebest BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 121 Thanked: 10 Times	We indians are very hard to satisfy. I know people were unhappy that cars like the OHC, accord and qualis were phased out. Mainly because the re-sale value would take a hit. On the other hand, I can't stand what skoda has done with the octavia and other similar cars like the ikon, accent etc. What should manufacturers do? Have a vote?
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31st March 2008, 10:01	#9
karanraheja Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 436 Times	As GTO has pointed out rightly, Qualis was an outdated model while it was launched in India. So it had to be phased out Soon. I dont think its the same case with the Innova. Innova is a brilliant MUV , cant understand why Toyota is taking its own sweet time to give it a minor facelift atleast. Innova will have competition directly with Tata Crossover which might be launched 2009-10. So thats some more time. But Tata still has to improve its overall build quality to compete with Innova directly. Innova should be in the market for atleast 2-3 years.
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31st March 2008, 10:21	#10
vasudeva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,221 Thanked: 212 Times	Since Innova was launched in 2005 (and was a new model then), do not expect a new model to replace it at before 2010 (most likely 2011-12). Innova sales have been steadily growing with new launches hardly making a permanent dent in its sales.
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31st March 2008, 10:24	#11
deepaktpatil BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: KA 05, MH 10 Posts: 303 Thanked: 128 Times	Guys, As per a reliable source for information, Qualis was phased because of its dyes (moulds) were about to be 20years old and replacing them would have been costly, hence the decision to go for new model which was Innova. I dont think Innova would be replaced like Qualis. Best we can hope for is an upgrade.
	() Thanks

31st March 2008, 10:31	#12
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	When Qualis was being phased out we thought it's going to hard for Toyota to match such a winner. Now with the Innova its going to be twice as hard for Toyota so i guess they will take their own sweet time to come up with another winner. Until then the Innova has some more time in production.
	() Thanks

31st March 2008, 11:47	#13
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	Innova will not be phased out as it is manufactured only in 8 countries and marketed to 45 other countries worldwide. This is the new concept which was developed by Japanese. Innova has around 12 variants throughout world. If one model is phased out, the other model with new look will take over but on the same platform.
	() Thanks

9th April 2008, 23:46	#15
dhaval BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 404 Thanked: Once View My Garage	I think the Innova will not be phased out any time soon. It commands a considerable market share both as in for commercial use(as a tourist vehicle) as well as for personal use. And IMO it hardly has any competition from Tavera. One interesting fact shared by a bhpain during our meet was; the cost of producing an Innova is less than the cost of producing a Qualis, though Innova is costlier than Qualis.
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