Fiat India : How much longer before they shut down?

amit · 13th October 2005, 21:55

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then theres this punto and company which none of us have even seen.

There was a time when the Fiat Punto was the largest selling car in Europe. Yes, more Punto's were sold then even VW Golf's. Another little known fact about Fiat is that their cars have got the maximum number of Car of the Year awards in Europe. That is why it hurts to see Fiat doing as bad as it's doing in India. But then they are responsible to a large extent for digging themselves into this hole. And that thought hurts even more! So much of talent, so much of ability, such good cars...these guys could have captured the Indian market. Fiat's forte is in making good small cars. Small cars will always rule in India. It should have been a cakewalk for them. Just imagine guys, if Fiat was a success, we would be seeing cars like Punto, Panda, Idea, maybe even Alfa Romeo's...but then if only.....

typeOnegative · 14th October 2005, 09:36

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Originally Posted by amit

Just imagine guys, if Fiat was a success, we would be seeing cars like Punto, Panda, Idea, maybe even Alfa Romeo's...but then if only.....

I am still hoping. I am even waiting for the day Mumbai has a Ferrari dealership. I may not be able to buy the car ever, but I want to gawk.

hasopi · 14th October 2005, 16:53

http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/to...28339010848601

racing4cure · 14th October 2005, 19:32

buddy how many will buy a car like the panda et all which will cost as much a esteem and offer space of a zen.....and looks like a reva...(no offence grenpeace)..think about value for money...!!!

moralfibre · 14th October 2005, 22:01

I have a hard copy of the following letter from new MD of Fiat India Pvt. Ltd. This has been dispatched to dealers. Wonder how much of this is true.

Dear Mr. XXXXXXX

I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself as the newly appointed Managing Director of Fiat India

For decades FIAT has been a part of the Indian automobile industry and has worked in your interest and that of its customers. Our every move is directed at offering the best engineering products to the end users and valuable business propositions for you. The alliance between FIAT India Pvt. Ltd. and Tata Motors is another step in this direction.

The implications of this strategic tie-up are still being discussed and developed together with our parent company (FIAT Auto SpA). At this point I wish to confirm Fiat's commitment to the Indian market and a long future association with our dealer fraternity.

I have been a part of the Fiat group since many years and been involved in a number of projects and initiatives within the Business Development Department of the Automobile sector, including negotiations with Tata Motors Limited.

As the automobile sector in India is emerging at a fast pace, Fiat India is looking at an overall re-engineering of strategy to stay competitive. My appointment as Managing Director of FIAT India Pvt. Ltd. has to be seen within the framework of a consistent strategy by Fiat for a stronger presence in India.

In context to the rumors and speculations vis-a'-vis the Kurla plant, Fiat confirms that it is fully engaged in the cleaning of the facility while the assessment of the damages, caused by recent monsoons, is under way. Fiat India wants to assure that spare parts availability, remains clearly unaffected by the Kurla plant situation.

I wish to confirm Fiat's commitment to the Indian market and a long future association with our dealer fraternity. Fiat has had a long standing relationship with India and has been part of the Indian automobile industry for decades. We will provide you with every support in your region to ensure we create the right environment for the mutual benefit of both.

Looking forward to working with you towards a common future.

Thanking you,
Yours sincerely,

Giovanni De Fillipis
Managing Director

vipul_singh · 14th October 2005, 22:18

Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

amit · 14th October 2005, 23:43

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how many will buy a car like the panda et all which will cost as much a esteem and offer space of a zen.....and looks like a reva...(no offence grenpeace)..think about value for money...!!!

Looks of course are subjective. The Panda definately looks better then Santro and NHC! Anyway, the space part is something I don't agree on. come on, the car is way more spacious then the Zen. Also, if it's launched, Fiat will have to localise the car heavily to price it correctly. Even if it's more spacious then Palio, it will have to be cheaper then Palio because it's dimensionally smaller!
Hey moralfibre, that letter from the new Fiat India MD doesn't say anything new. Whats written in the letter is something we already know. Ok, I guess the only new thing is that Fiat India is committed to the Indian market. But they have been saying this ever since the day they launched the Uno! It's high time Fiat put what they are saying into action.

RX135 · 15th October 2005, 01:34

@moralfibre, you put end to yet another speculation. Good to know that! I don't know, but however genuine they might be, I find it hard to believe on any Fiat claims in first shot. Afterall, I am hearing from their sales about bringing up website for last one year. But, then there is no harm in giving a chance to yet another new MD

The only reason, why I always feel that Fiat will not pull out of Indian market, is that it's a booming economy and no company in right business senses can afford to pull out of it.

moralfibre · 15th October 2005, 16:25

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Originally Posted by amit

Hey moralfibre, that letter from the new Fiat India MD doesn't say anything new. Whats written in the letter is something we already know. Ok, I guess the only new thing is that Fiat India is committed to the Indian market. But they have been saying this ever since the day they launched the Uno! It's high time Fiat put what they are saying into action.

Amit. I shared the letter just because I had a copy of it. Nothing new and different. I wonder whether this new MD even knows that FIAT India web is down. I feel FIAT might require something like a template of this letter to keep changing the names of the MD's so that the false promises always remain.

GTO · 15th October 2005, 16:35

Hooray to a letter from Fiat Indias boss? I respect positivity but this!

GTO

devarshi84 · 24th October 2005, 01:18

yeah but where is the 1.6 sport palio available?? There is a cousin of mine who is lookingto buy a premium hatch. Is interested in swift but said may look at palio 1.6

hell_rider · 24th October 2005, 10:34

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Originally Posted by devarshi84

yeah but where is the 1.6 sport palio available?? There is a cousin of mine who is lookingto buy a premium hatch. Is interested in swift but said may look at palio 1.6

excuse me, but i do not understand the question. what do you mean by "where is it available"?

shuvc · 24th October 2005, 11:48

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Originally Posted by hell_rider

excuse me, but i do not understand the question. what do you mean by "where is it available"?

@devarshi may have a point there ..
Kolkata dealer still denies any knowledge regarding the availability of the 1.6 Sport !
And then you see it listed in Top Gear and Autocar.

The flip side is that the Petra 1.6 ELX is very much available for quite sometime now , but neither Top Gear nor Autocar list it ..

devarshi84 · 25th October 2005, 00:55

Lets see some T-bhpian get an info on the 1.6 palio.

any1???????

RX135 · 25th October 2005, 11:22

I know for sure that Ashwamegh Motors in Pune is selling Palio 1.6 sports. I had a quote from them.

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2005 : They cant survive any longer.	22	9.05%
2006	25	10.29%
2007 or in the whereabouts.	21	8.64%
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14th October 2005, 19:32	#259
racing4cure BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: DXB-COK-Manipal Posts: 186 Thanked: 9 Times	buddy how many will buy a car like the panda et all which will cost as much a esteem and offer space of a zen.....and looks like a reva...(no offence grenpeace)..think about value for money...!!!
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14th October 2005, 22:01	#260
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,560 Thanked: 14,436 Times	I have a hard copy of the following letter from new MD of Fiat India Pvt. Ltd. This has been dispatched to dealers. Wonder how much of this is true. Dear Mr. XXXXXXX I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself as the newly appointed Managing Director of Fiat India For decades FIAT has been a part of the Indian automobile industry and has worked in your interest and that of its customers. Our every move is directed at offering the best engineering products to the end users and valuable business propositions for you. The alliance between FIAT India Pvt. Ltd. and Tata Motors is another step in this direction. The implications of this strategic tie-up are still being discussed and developed together with our parent company (FIAT Auto SpA). At this point I wish to confirm Fiat's commitment to the Indian market and a long future association with our dealer fraternity. I have been a part of the Fiat group since many years and been involved in a number of projects and initiatives within the Business Development Department of the Automobile sector, including negotiations with Tata Motors Limited. As the automobile sector in India is emerging at a fast pace, Fiat India is looking at an overall re-engineering of strategy to stay competitive. My appointment as Managing Director of FIAT India Pvt. Ltd. has to be seen within the framework of a consistent strategy by Fiat for a stronger presence in India. In context to the rumors and speculations vis-a'-vis the Kurla plant, Fiat confirms that it is fully engaged in the cleaning of the facility while the assessment of the damages, caused by recent monsoons, is under way. Fiat India wants to assure that spare parts availability, remains clearly unaffected by the Kurla plant situation. I wish to confirm Fiat's commitment to the Indian market and a long future association with our dealer fraternity. Fiat has had a long standing relationship with India and has been part of the Indian automobile industry for decades. We will provide you with every support in your region to ensure we create the right environment for the mutual benefit of both. Looking forward to working with you towards a common future. Thanking you, Yours sincerely, Giovanni De Fillipis Managing Director
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14th October 2005, 22:18	#261
vipul_singh BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: BLR / Lucknow Posts: 604 Thanked: 855 Times View My Garage	Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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15th October 2005, 01:34	#263
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 77 Times	@moralfibre, you put end to yet another speculation. Good to know that! I don't know, but however genuine they might be, I find it hard to believe on any Fiat claims in first shot. Afterall, I am hearing from their sales about bringing up website for last one year. But, then there is no harm in giving a chance to yet another new MD The only reason, why I always feel that Fiat will not pull out of Indian market, is that it's a booming economy and no company in right business senses can afford to pull out of it.
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15th October 2005, 16:35	#265
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,825 Thanked: 321,447 Times View My Garage	Hooray to a letter from Fiat Indias boss? I respect positivity but this! GTO
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24th October 2005, 01:18	#266
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	yeah but where is the 1.6 sport palio available?? There is a cousin of mine who is lookingto buy a premium hatch. Is interested in swift but said may look at palio 1.6
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25th October 2005, 00:55	#269
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	Lets see some T-bhpian get an info on the 1.6 palio. any1???????
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25th October 2005, 11:22	#270
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 77 Times	I know for sure that Ashwamegh Motors in Pune is selling Palio 1.6 sports. I had a quote from them.
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