Fiat India : How much longer before they shut down?

GTO · 1st March 2005, 17:58

Quote:

The best and most heartning peice of news is the poll result here. i voted for the miracle

Dude, 50% of the community has predicted that they will shut down. The 50% is divided only on the timing factor.

GTO

hasopi · 1st March 2005, 18:34

Fiat: waking up from a stupor

http://www.just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=47310

nmdeccanet · 1st March 2005, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by hasopi

Fiat: waking up from a stupor

http://www.just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=47310

"...Other than in Italy though, where the spend is to be maintained, Fiat is not going to help dealers with product ads. Far too much has been wasted outside Italy, he believes, and the wastage is to be capped..."

Is he joking, No marketing spend outside Italy? What about websites, in rs. 2 lakhs one can put up a grand site.

In India are they expecting word of mouth and customer reviews to sell 16000 cars a year?

No ads, no promos will only make the dealer gotchas (read Sundarams ASS) news worthy - make prospective buyers scared, low sales, high fixed costs -- end of story.

NICK · 5th March 2005, 02:20

invited me over for lunch at the fiat factory. an offer that i intend to take up - will keep you posted on anything interesting - in the meantime, all fiat owners, lets keep our fingers crossed[/quote]

People at Fiat inviting confirmed/potential customers for lunch......Now thats a novel way of keeping the company is business.

Listen all you guys who predict a doomsday for Fiat and you listen good. Fiat will never close down its India ops. This company is a proven Phoenix. Just you wait. And times will change for the better very soon. Do you think a company that has such EXCELLENT products like the Palio, Petra will just sink. And the arsenal is huge. Forget the Ferraris , Fiat has the Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Maserati brands under its belt.

Remember the wheel of fortune turns such that he who is at the bottom today will be at the top and he who is at the top will be at the bottom. Philosophical, Passionate eh??

Thats what all Fiat lovers are....!!! People.....I say again....drive a Palio 1.6 GTX and you will understand why I wrote the above.

Fiat`s revival.....Not if or how, but today or tomorrow, that is the question...

Forever Young, Forever Fiat,
Nick.

GTO · 5th March 2005, 13:15

Quote:

Remember the wheel of fortune turns such that he who is at the bottom today will be at the top and he who is at the top will be at the bottom. Philosophical, Passionate eh??

Unfortunately, the auto industry is not a merry go round.

Rest only time will tell.

GTO

sivadas · 7th March 2005, 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Dude, 50% of the community has predicted that they will shut down. The 50% is divided only on the timing factor.

GTO

The poll choices were like that, Isn't it? Instead of 3 different years for Fiat's collapse, you should have probably put an option "Fiat might survive"

.

rahulvilas · 27th March 2005, 22:39

Well,cannot predict when FIAT INDIA shuts shop but the dealer in Bhopal(Vindhyachal Motors)has closed down this month.Last year,Prudential Automobiles,Indore had closed down.
When spoken to,the owner confessed that there was absolutely no support from the company and he was a good dealer for the kind of service he provided me even though my car was purchased from Pune.Infact,both my free services were done by him.Now the nearest dealer for me is either at Gwalior(400 kms) or Nagpur(425 kms).
In the end,to survive the dealer was selling "TOBU" brand of products which included Toddler bicycles,cycles,prams etc from the showroom.These products dominated the showroom than those stunning palios and petras!!!
As a customer and lover of FIAT products I expect them to bounce back but as of today the scenario is bad and chances look bleak.
Lets Hope for the best .

Rahul.

moralfibre · 28th March 2005, 00:14

Hey Nick please tell us whether the lunch party is over or is yet to be had... and if you hear some good news please dont hesitate to share it...hoping to hear from you...

GTO · 28th March 2005, 13:38

Quote:

In the end,to survive the dealer was selling "TOBU" brand of products which included Toddler bicycles,cycles,prams etc from the showroom.These products dominated the showroom than those stunning palios and petras!!!

Tch, Tch, tch. The sad saga of an absolutely depressed organisation.

Any motivational speakers out there who wouldnt mind a trip to Fiat India?

GTO

typeOnegative · 28th March 2005, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

Tch, Tch, tch. The sad saga of an absolutely depressed organisation.

Any motivational speakers out there who wouldnt mind a trip to Fiat India?

GTO

:( True. I really don't know what is wrong with them. Perfect case of the frog(s) in the well. Makes me mad too.

moralfibre · 20th April 2005, 20:41

If someone is interested to read check this out "http://www.italiaspeed.com/2005/motor_show/geneva/review/alfa_romeo/kalbfell/0203.html"

hasopi · 27th April 2005, 17:26

Fiat cars return to Singapore roads after a 5-year absence

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...144767/1/.html

adya33 · 27th April 2005, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by hasopi

Fiat cars return to Singapore roads after a 5-year absence

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...144767/1/.html

hm 40 cars sold on opening showroom GOOD
target of selling 400 cars in first year - depends upoon service provided by dealer

shankaranand · 28th April 2005, 20:05

Looks like lot of people believe in Miracles..

Or atleast, they are hoping for a Miracle..

IMO, Fiat will need not a small miracle, but a HUGE miracle to survive, It cannot survive just on enthusiast's support, but needs public junta to buy their cars.. I dont see that happening in the near future..

Stratos · 28th April 2005, 20:51

Forget survival guys, even if they survive the way they are doing now, wats the point. According to April issue of Overdrive, in the month of February 2005:

Maruti Udyog sold 23,314 cars
Tata Motors sold 9,152 cars
Hyundai Motor Ind 7,047 cars
FIAT INDIA sold 127 cars

Mind you, this is the compact class I am refering to

View Poll Results: When is Fiat India going to shut down?
2005 : They cant survive any longer.	22	9.05%
2006	25	10.29%
2007 or in the whereabouts.	21	8.64%
I dont agree. Fiat India is here to stay - They will pull off a miracle.	175	72.02%
Voters: 243. You may not vote on this poll

1st March 2005, 18:34	#47
hasopi BANNED Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 177 Thanked: 0 Times	Fiat: waking up from a stupor http://www.just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=47310
	() Thanks

5th March 2005, 02:20	#49
NICK Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2 Thanked: 0 Times	invited me over for lunch at the fiat factory. an offer that i intend to take up - will keep you posted on anything interesting - in the meantime, all fiat owners, lets keep our fingers crossed[/quote] People at Fiat inviting confirmed/potential customers for lunch......Now thats a novel way of keeping the company is business. Listen all you guys who predict a doomsday for Fiat and you listen good. Fiat will never close down its India ops. This company is a proven Phoenix. Just you wait. And times will change for the better very soon. Do you think a company that has such EXCELLENT products like the Palio, Petra will just sink. And the arsenal is huge. Forget the Ferraris , Fiat has the Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Maserati brands under its belt. Remember the wheel of fortune turns such that he who is at the bottom today will be at the top and he who is at the top will be at the bottom. Philosophical, Passionate eh?? Thats what all Fiat lovers are....!!! People.....I say again....drive a Palio 1.6 GTX and you will understand why I wrote the above. Fiat`s revival.....Not if or how, but today or tomorrow, that is the question... Forever Young, Forever Fiat, Nick.
	() Thanks

27th March 2005, 22:39	#52
rahulvilas BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: PUNE Posts: 70 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Well,cannot predict when FIAT INDIA shuts shop but the dealer in Bhopal(Vindhyachal Motors)has closed down this month.Last year,Prudential Automobiles,Indore had closed down. When spoken to,the owner confessed that there was absolutely no support from the company and he was a good dealer for the kind of service he provided me even though my car was purchased from Pune.Infact,both my free services were done by him.Now the nearest dealer for me is either at Gwalior(400 kms) or Nagpur(425 kms). In the end,to survive the dealer was selling "TOBU" brand of products which included Toddler bicycles,cycles,prams etc from the showroom.These products dominated the showroom than those stunning palios and petras!!! As a customer and lover of FIAT products I expect them to bounce back but as of today the scenario is bad and chances look bleak. Lets Hope for the best . Rahul.
	() Thanks

28th March 2005, 00:14	#53
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,443 Thanked: 13,956 Times	Hey Nick please tell us whether the lunch party is over or is yet to be had... and if you hear some good news please dont hesitate to share it...hoping to hear from you...
	() Thanks

20th April 2005, 20:41	#56
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,443 Thanked: 13,956 Times	If someone is interested to read check this out "http://www.italiaspeed.com/2005/motor_show/geneva/review/alfa_romeo/kalbfell/0203.html"
	() Thanks

27th April 2005, 17:26	#57
hasopi BANNED Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 177 Thanked: 0 Times	Fiat cars return to Singapore roads after a 5-year absence http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...144767/1/.html
	() Thanks

28th April 2005, 20:05	#59
shankaranand BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 164 Thanked: 22 Times	Looks like lot of people believe in Miracles.. Or atleast, they are hoping for a Miracle.. IMO, Fiat will need not a small miracle, but a HUGE miracle to survive, It cannot survive just on enthusiast's support, but needs public junta to buy their cars.. I dont see that happening in the near future..
	() Thanks

28th April 2005, 20:51	#60
Stratos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,609 Thanked: 1,437 Times View My Garage	Forget survival guys, even if they survive the way they are doing now, wats the point. According to April issue of Overdrive, in the month of February 2005: Maruti Udyog sold 23,314 cars Tata Motors sold 9,152 cars Hyundai Motor Ind 7,047 cars FIAT INDIA sold 127 cars Mind you, this is the compact class I am refering to Last edited by Stratos : 28th April 2005 at 20:54.
	() Thanks