Outlander to undercut CR-V

Guna · 23rd May 2008, 10:35

Outlander is sold with a 2.2 L diesel in UK.
Outlander is supposed to be very successful in markets like australia and Japan where it outsells CRV. If it is priced at 15.5-16 L as it has been reported, there is no reason why it cant outsell CRV in India too.
I have been reading few comparision reports/roadtests between cossovers and it ranks just bellow CRV in terms of refinement, handling etc.
Mitsubishi claims that this has the best of both worlds (handling of an Evo sedan and offroad ability of a Pajaro). If this true by even 50%, it is great value over CRV

shatrughna · 24th June 2008, 19:01

Anyone has any idea / news from the Mitsubishi as to when is it likely to get launched?

iraghava · 24th June 2008, 21:41

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Originally Posted by shatrughna

Anyone has any idea / news from the Mitsubishi as to when is it likely to get launched?

Tentative dates are Oct/Nov.

Mpower · 25th June 2008, 06:09

The Cedia being an excellent car didn't go very far in dethroning the Civic even with that huge price gap. What can we hope for the Outlander? Honda's snob value is simply too powerful.

Gurkha · 25th June 2008, 07:18

With names like Peugot and VW under the hood, it certainly won't win the reliability war with the ultra reliable industry benchmark Honda powertrain.

hondadude · 25th June 2008, 09:02

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Originally Posted by Mpower

The Cedia being an excellent car didn't go very far in dethroning the Civic even with that huge price gap. What can we hope for the Outlander? Honda's snob value is simply too powerful.

While it is true that Honda as a brand is quite powerful in India, I believe there is a lot more to Civic success than brand. While Cedia is a better car to drive than Civic, the latter looks and feels much more expensive than Civic. Most of the people who buy cars are not driving enthusiasts and hence other factors (exterior looks, quality interiors etc) take precedence over factors like driving dynamics, handling etc.

Coming back to outlander, it needs to offer much more than CRV and at a lower price point to attract people.

Guna · 25th June 2008, 10:50

Talking about more value over CRV, Outlander is going to be much cheaper at around 16 lacs, has seven seat option and has selectable 4WD. Of course it cant match Honda's refinement level and reliability.

cediafan · 25th June 2008, 11:07

It is true that Honda has a great brand value and most people in India look at brand value and looks. If Outlander has to beat CRV it has to be offered a couple lakhs cheaper with better features (4WD, power etc). Honda is known to have a great marketing set up and backs it up with reliable cars and beating it not going to be easy.

reignofchaos · 25th June 2008, 12:04

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Originally Posted by Mpower

The Cedia being an excellent car didn't go very far in dethroning the Civic even with that huge price gap. What can we hope for the Outlander? Honda's snob value is simply too powerful.

Cedia is one gen older than Civic. If mitsu is really serious about the indian market, it better get the 10th gen Lancer soon.

srishiva · 25th June 2008, 12:26

The outlander shines in its handling/fun abilities. It looks better among crossovers. Since it costs the same as CRV in the U.S, don't know by how much they can under cut the CRV. Interior touch and feel are not as good as a CRV or a RAV4. By the way the last row seats are just there for specification, don't know if even a kid is going to like it.

Its still a AWD vehicle and don't know how much the selectable features on it are worth. So, is it coming with a V6 ?

Guna · 25th June 2008, 12:36

Outlander is ging to be cheaper becasue it is going to be assembled in India as against importing which attracts 120% duty. Assemlbing locally should give a price advantage of 3-4 lacs.
It will be a inline 2.4 L from what I read

GTO · 25th June 2008, 14:32

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Originally Posted by Guna

Outlander is ging to be cheaper becasue it is going to be assembled in India as against importing which attracts 120% duty.

Why can't they assemble the Montero locally

The price would immediately come down to 30 lakhs, finding a home in my (and many more) garage! It has good potential as a 30 lakh SUV.

4x4addict · 25th June 2008, 19:33

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Originally Posted by GTO

Why can't they assemble the Montero locally

The price would immediately come down to 30 lakhs, finding a home in my (and many more) garage! It has good potential as a 30 lakh SUV.

If they could bring it down to the low to mid 20s, I will definitely get the Montero. Great SUV but price doesn't make sense !!

GTO - Touring · 25th June 2008, 22:21

Tell me about it, I just cannot digest paying 42 lakhs for a Mitsubishi. The beast is worth 32. Tops. But it is still a heck of an SUV.

raul · 25th June 2008, 23:57

Apart from the value of the Honda brand in India built in part by getting good products here fast even though at higher prices, they do pay a lot of attention to interiors and this shows in the CRV.

Some people are way too impressed just sitting in it as compared to let's say Vitara or RAV4. Plus some reviews I have seen do not talk highly of Outlander's handling compared to CRV.

However here we are starved of decent SUV options priced well so Outlander at 16 will be welcome, unfortunately for all of us because of the oil crisis the SUV phase may just pass us by.

23rd May 2008, 10:35	#31
Guna Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,010 Thanked: 4,202 Times	Outlander is sold with a 2.2 L diesel in UK. Outlander is supposed to be very successful in markets like australia and Japan where it outsells CRV. If it is priced at 15.5-16 L as it has been reported, there is no reason why it cant outsell CRV in India too. I have been reading few comparision reports/roadtests between cossovers and it ranks just bellow CRV in terms of refinement, handling etc. Mitsubishi claims that this has the best of both worlds (handling of an Evo sedan and offroad ability of a Pajaro). If this true by even 50%, it is great value over CRV
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24th June 2008, 19:01	#32
shatrughna BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 894 Thanked: 68 Times	Anyone has any idea / news from the Mitsubishi as to when is it likely to get launched?
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25th June 2008, 06:09	#34
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	The Cedia being an excellent car didn't go very far in dethroning the Civic even with that huge price gap. What can we hope for the Outlander? Honda's snob value is simply too powerful.
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25th June 2008, 07:18	#35
Gurkha BANNED Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kalyani, West Bengal Posts: 444 Thanked: 10 Times	With names like Peugot and VW under the hood, it certainly won't win the reliability war with the ultra reliable industry benchmark Honda powertrain.
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25th June 2008, 10:50	#37
Guna Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,010 Thanked: 4,202 Times	Talking about more value over CRV, Outlander is going to be much cheaper at around 16 lacs, has seven seat option and has selectable 4WD. Of course it cant match Honda's refinement level and reliability.
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25th June 2008, 11:07	#38
cediafan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 162 Thanked: 8 Times	It is true that Honda has a great brand value and most people in India look at brand value and looks. If Outlander has to beat CRV it has to be offered a couple lakhs cheaper with better features (4WD, power etc). Honda is known to have a great marketing set up and backs it up with reliable cars and beating it not going to be easy.
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25th June 2008, 12:26	#40
srishiva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,375 Thanked: 2,256 Times	The outlander shines in its handling/fun abilities. It looks better among crossovers. Since it costs the same as CRV in the U.S, don't know by how much they can under cut the CRV. Interior touch and feel are not as good as a CRV or a RAV4. By the way the last row seats are just there for specification, don't know if even a kid is going to like it. Its still a AWD vehicle and don't know how much the selectable features on it are worth. So, is it coming with a V6 ?
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25th June 2008, 12:36	#41
Guna Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,010 Thanked: 4,202 Times	Outlander is ging to be cheaper becasue it is going to be assembled in India as against importing which attracts 120% duty. Assemlbing locally should give a price advantage of 3-4 lacs. It will be a inline 2.4 L from what I read
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25th June 2008, 22:21	#44
GTO - Touring BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 710 Thanked: 54 Times	Tell me about it, I just cannot digest paying 42 lakhs for a Mitsubishi. The beast is worth 32. Tops. But it is still a heck of an SUV.
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25th June 2008, 23:57	#45
raul BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 920 Thanked: 372 Times	Apart from the value of the Honda brand in India built in part by getting good products here fast even though at higher prices, they do pay a lot of attention to interiors and this shows in the CRV. Some people are way too impressed just sitting in it as compared to let's say Vitara or RAV4. Plus some reviews I have seen do not talk highly of Outlander's handling compared to CRV. However here we are starved of decent SUV options priced well so Outlander at 16 will be welcome, unfortunately for all of us because of the oil crisis the SUV phase may just pass us by. Last edited by raul : 25th June 2008 at 23:58.
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