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Originally Posted by ballkey - The ride quality sucks. MTC buses have much more pliant suspensions.
- Some plastic parts are suspect - especially the interior door handles, bumper clamps, etc. Cardboard sheets would hold up better than the swift's bumpers. |
ride quality is fine. its a trade off between handling and ride. if ride quality is as bad as you make it out to be, the swift would not be the most popular hatch in india today(in its segment) everyone knows, we indians like our rides plush.
I prefer the ride the way it is.
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Originally Posted by ballkey - Rear visibility is poor. the flanks too. |
the poor visibility is a side effect of the radical looks which make it so popular.
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Originally Posted by ballkey Having said that, the engine, clutch, brakes and gearbox are still a breeze, and I cant think of a comparable car in this price range. My car's done 35k so far, in 2 years. There's still a rush when I downshift and bury the go-pedal. It's a Petrol Vxi, and the FE aint too bad either. |
this is why it sells!
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Originally Posted by ballkey Different people want different things from their cars; for some, quality means great NVH, tough build quality, classy interiors etc. For other folks, it could be just bullet-proof reliability, adequate performance and acceptable FE. In the end, you get what you pay for. |
I'm part of the other folks group!
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Originally Posted by penpavan Driven all three. Swift, NHC and I10. The EPS should make the steering lighter and that happens more in NHC and I10 than in Swift. |
the EPS is fine! if its light, people complain there's no feedback. if its hard/heavy, people complain there is too little assistance. the manufacturer cant build a car that will satify everyone at 5.75 lacs. you must admit though, the manufacturer that has come closest to doing so is maruti.
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Originally Posted by benbsb29 With respect to the Swift, the handling strength of the car results in poor ride quality. There has to be some compromise somewhere. If you ask me, i prefer better handling over ride quality. |
phew! somebody gets it! what a relief!
BMW handles well and rides well(its still stiffer than a merc) but whats the price difference between a BMW and a swift?
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Originally Posted by Jaggu Stiffer the suspension, better the handling, rough patches can be cleared at higher speed and then it wont thud, trust me. Caution you need to have good car control.
Take a swift and rip it over bad patches, apart from OE tyres loosing traction (upgrade takes care of this to great extend), you wont hear any thuds nor will you bent the discs. Take it slow and it will dance and in some cases bent the rims also. Same with iKON, it loves bad roads to be taken at speeds.
I personally hate soft handlers, they just dont give the confidence on indian highways, yeah they will be soft, cradle you in city where you putter around. But suspension will crash if you try high speed antics.
How many people look for strut braces and suspension upgrades in India? Yes average indian wont care about this, coz he will be blocking the fast lane at 50 kmph, irrespective of bad or good road conditions lol.
Again we are going from poor quality to handling here. |
man after my own heart! no wonder we drive the same car. and love it!
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Originally Posted by DCEite Regarding EPS, its a well known fact that enthusiasts (self proclaimed or otherwise) just hate it. For them a well weighed steering giving adequate feedback is top priority. |
and I like the feedback from the EPS. also.. I like the fact that it does not sap power from the engine unlike a hydraulic power steering which runs its compressor off the crank.
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Originally Posted by DCEite And yes, quality of MASS has taken a nosedive in recent years. Its more to do with large volumes, and the subsequent decrease in service station/car ratio. |
no it hasnt. the nose dive took place when the indigenisation of parts started with the 800. decades ago.
we've been buying a new maruti almost every year since 1988.
the nosedive is old news. its not a recent phenomenon. marutis rattle. they always have. but they dont breakdown. take a drive down any highway across india. take a random count of the number of cars you see parked by the roadside, with the bonnet open. marutis are reliable. thats what matters.
like jaggu said, the rattling is an issue, and it is worth making a fuss about, but the scale of the problem is nowhere near that of certain other manufacturers launching new cars.
rattles will not cause the car to sell less, till the other manufacturers pull up their socks and offer better alternatives.
maybe its because I think differently.
I have a car that runs reliably,is great fun, runs fast, stops well, turns well, gives great mileage, is cheap to maintain and is completely hassle-free when taken for A.S.S. and its all available for 5.7 lacs, why bother about the rattle from the left rear door? BTW- thats the only problem I've had with the car(15,000km in 8 months)
this is a great idea for a thread, hope maruti sees this and does something about it! awwww come on....why should they bother? the car is selling like hot cakes.there is no real competition in sight. they can afford to cut corners till the other manufacturers give them a run for their money. that is where the problem is.