SCOOP : Caught Testing-The New Corolla

ST7677 · 16th June 2008, 19:56

It's utterly disappointing :(
Both front and rear look bad.

And then no Diesel in this country of distorted gasoline pricing.

AMATMO · 16th June 2008, 20:31

finally toyota, shows sines of being active

any idea how much it could cost, do you guys think it will be above 11 lacs?

aaggoswami · 16th June 2008, 21:38

It looks much better now. And its utterly disappointing that D4-D is not coming. If launched, they could eat anything in their way.

muneemmk · 17th June 2008, 02:55

Actually i was with the guys from Toyota's "Product Planning Division" doing a survey on the "small car".They actually said that they don't want to launch the corolla with a D4-D because it may Cannibalize the Innova Sales . Weird huh ? Doesn't make any sense to me too but They were from Toyota Right ? Maybe They Would Know Better . But I Think It's just plain DUMB.

Superleggera · 17th June 2008, 03:34

From the exterior in many angles,the new corolla is just a down sized Camry..New camry hit the roads about an year back, so the new corolla looks like an old model -

given2fly · 17th June 2008, 03:46

The car still manages to look elegant as per the last pics posted. A little Camry-isk but not so bloated. Should be a good Executive car instead of a poser or flashy car like CIVIC. Should give good competition to the likes of Optra, Civic and take away a few of Octavia customers as well, diesel or no diesel.

rangaraj · 17th June 2008, 07:15

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Originally Posted by muneemmk

Actually i was with the guys from Toyota's "Product Planning Division" doing a survey on the "small car".They actually said that they don't want to launch the corolla with a D4-D because it may Cannibalize the Innova Sales . Weird huh ? Doesn't make any sense to me too but They were from Toyota Right ? Maybe They Would Know Better . But I Think It's just plain DUMB.

Well, the other way of looking at it is that by not doing it they have allowed Honda, GM and Skoda to severely cannibalized sales of the Corolla!

cooldude1988765 · 17th June 2008, 08:52

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Originally Posted by muneemmk

They actually said that they don't want to launch the corolla with a D4-D because it may Cannibalize the Innova Sales .

IMO that is the dumbest reason I have ever heard. Innova or corolla aren't both toyota ? If the innova sales do get reduced they can manufacture the fortuner too. ( I heard both of them use the same chassis )

muneemmk · 17th June 2008, 09:39

We can say anything right now but you guys don't know our frustrations when we hear dumb stuff like that from Toyota Guys, cause the corolla used to be our bread and butter but after the civic was launched we were literally at the bottom of the Food chain. The car which once had up to three months waiting period was now readily available and nobody wanted it, then when the new low end version was launched , people started pouring in comparing it between anything from Swift to Honda City VTEC , Those Were the days I wanted to kill myself , but anyway now any Toyota Sales Person can live with a little more dignity .

aaggoswami · 17th June 2008, 10:08

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Originally Posted by cooldude1988765

IMO that is the dumbest reason I have ever heard. Innova or corolla aren't both toyota ? If the innova sales do get reduced they can manufacture the fortuner too. ( I heard both of them use the same chassis )

The entirely baseless reason that it will eat into Innova sales. Innova targets a different segment altogether. Forget fortuner, even the new corolla wont be available with diesel, then how can you expect Fortuner.

nkrishnap · 17th June 2008, 13:01

Currently they wont give the 2.0 D4D. Probably they might give that engine one year down the line after they launch the car.

The car looks good, not flashy but surely looks good. The car in silver and pearl white will be good for me (again looks are subjective).

CrAzY dRiVeR · 17th June 2008, 13:19

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Originally Posted by aaggoswami

The entirely baseless reason that it will eat into Innova sales. Innova targets a different segment altogether.

Thinking simply in terms of vehicle classifications, the Innova would appear in a very different segment compared to the Corolla.

However, as we had discussed in one previous thread- Why not innova? It offers many things and more than the Corolla at a good price as well. Of course its an MUV, compared to Corolla's sedan status. But leaving that apart, Innova does offer a lot! Diesel option, practicality, extra seats, Toyota badge, good quality levels (Corolla in India has been critised for being built to a price), good handling and more adds to the list.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...pe-innova.html

Jedi.Knight · 17th June 2008, 14:05

Found more pics at jeddahboys.com/vb/JB122436.html

Ofcourse, could not understand a single word. Anyone for translation?

hondadude · 17th June 2008, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by muneemmk

Actually i was with the guys from Toyota's "Product Planning Division" doing a survey on the "small car".They actually said that they don't want to launch the corolla with a D4-D because it may Cannibalize the Innova Sales . Weird huh ? Doesn't make any sense to me too but They were from Toyota Right ? Maybe They Would Know Better . But I Think It's just plain DUMB.

It confirms that toyota management is smoking something I wouldn't want to. Innova and Corolla target very different segments.

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

However, as we had discussed in one previous thread- Why not innova? It offers many things and more than the Corolla at a good price as well. Of course its an MUV, compared to Corolla's sedan status. But leaving that apart, Innova does offer a lot! Diesel option, practicality, extra seats, Toyota badge, good quality levels (Corolla in India has been critised for being built to a price), good handling and more adds to the list.

So, all the more reason Toyota shouldn't worry about cannibalizing Innova's sales. There is a market for a comfortable diesel sedan in that segment. Corolla has the most comfortable back seat in that segment (Civic, Corolla, Octavia, Cedia). Once it gets a diesel, it will do very well in chauffeur driven segment.

motorheadinc · 17th June 2008, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Jedi.Knight

Found more pics at jeddahboys.com/vb/JB122436.html

Ofcourse, could not understand a single word. Anyone for translation?

google it out dude:

translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjeddahboys.com%2Fvb%2FJB1 22436.html&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=ar&tl=en

interesting but will this be the corolla being launched in India.
Havent read the rest of the post at time of posting this.
So please excuse if it is

16th June 2008, 19:56	#76
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,054 Thanked: 73 Times	It's utterly disappointing :( Both front and rear look bad. And then no Diesel in this country of distorted gasoline pricing. Last edited by ST7677 : 16th June 2008 at 19:57.
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AMATMO Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore\GOA Posts: 1,456 Thanked: 7 Times	finally toyota, shows sines of being active any idea how much it could cost, do you guys think it will be above 11 lacs?
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16th June 2008, 21:38	#78
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,982 Thanked: 2,931 Times	It looks much better now. And its utterly disappointing that D4-D is not coming. If launched, they could eat anything in their way.
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17th June 2008, 02:55	#79
muneemmk BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 832 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	Actually i was with the guys from Toyota's "Product Planning Division" doing a survey on the "small car".They actually said that they don't want to launch the corolla with a D4-D because it may Cannibalize the Innova Sales . Weird huh ? Doesn't make any sense to me too but They were from Toyota Right ? Maybe They Would Know Better . But I Think It's just plain DUMB.
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17th June 2008, 03:34	#80
Superleggera BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kannur/Boston Posts: 531 Thanked: 816 Times View My Garage	From the exterior in many angles,the new corolla is just a down sized Camry..New camry hit the roads about an year back, so the new corolla looks like an old model -
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17th June 2008, 03:46	#81
given2fly BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 213 Thanked: 0 Times	The car still manages to look elegant as per the last pics posted. A little Camry-isk but not so bloated. Should be a good Executive car instead of a poser or flashy car like CIVIC. Should give good competition to the likes of Optra, Civic and take away a few of Octavia customers as well, diesel or no diesel.
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17th June 2008, 09:39	#84
muneemmk BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 832 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	We can say anything right now but you guys don't know our frustrations when we hear dumb stuff like that from Toyota Guys, cause the corolla used to be our bread and butter but after the civic was launched we were literally at the bottom of the Food chain. The car which once had up to three months waiting period was now readily available and nobody wanted it, then when the new low end version was launched , people started pouring in comparing it between anything from Swift to Honda City VTEC , Those Were the days I wanted to kill myself , but anyway now any Toyota Sales Person can live with a little more dignity .
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17th June 2008, 13:01	#86
nkrishnap Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,983 Thanked: 7,407 Times View My Garage	Currently they wont give the 2.0 D4D. Probably they might give that engine one year down the line after they launch the car. The car looks good, not flashy but surely looks good. The car in silver and pearl white will be good for me (again looks are subjective).
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17th June 2008, 14:05	#88
Jedi.Knight BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 53 Thanked: 37 Times	Found more pics at jeddahboys.com/vb/JB122436.html Ofcourse, could not understand a single word. Anyone for translation?
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