Shell in India (fuel, lubes, outlets)

kap04 · 13th May 2012, 11:17

Topped up ate Shell Whitefield yesterday evening. Price of Normal Shell petrol - 81.50 Rs/litre . Has it gone down or has it been the same since last couple of weeks?

Y@SH · 13th May 2012, 11:50

Can someone please throw some light that how/why is Shell charging more for their fuel? And what are the advantages of filling from Shell? I regularly fill at BP and have never changed to any other.

el lobo 6061 · 13th May 2012, 15:48

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Originally Posted by Y@SH

Can someone please throw some light that how/why is Shell charging more for their fuel? And what are the advantages of filling from Shell? I regularly fill at BP and have never changed to any other.

Shell charges more than PSU because.

Shell doesn't receive any subsidy like BP, HP, IOC.
Shell fuel prices are dependent on International Crude prices and keep changing with fluctuating crude price.
When Shell says 1 L you get 1 L. Unlike PSU where there are high chances of giving less fuel for the same said price.
Quality of fuel is certainly better than those PSU.
Some extra price for the Shell brand name. Just as we have in Honda & VW.

TrueDreamer · 13th May 2012, 16:16

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Originally Posted by kap04

Topped up ate Shell Whitefield yesterday evening. Price of Normal Shell petrol - 81.50 Rs/litre . Has it gone down or has it been the same since last couple of weeks?

Paid 85.80 /litre yesterday for Shell Normal here in Hyd

HighOctane · 13th May 2012, 21:42

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Originally Posted by kap04

Topped up ate Shell Whitefield yesterday evening. Price of Normal Shell petrol - 81.50 Rs/litre . Has it gone down or has it been the same since last couple of weeks?

Its the same price in Bangalore since March. I donot agree its VFM compared with PSU bunks for quality and quantity.
Actually it should reduce as crude in international market is in reducing trend for last week.

motomaverick · 14th May 2012, 10:45

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Originally Posted by HighOctane

Its the same price in Bangalore since March. I donot agree its VFM compared with PSU bunks for quality and quantity.
Actually it should reduce as crude in international market is in reducing trend for last week.

I have stopped filling in Shell after I had a discussion with someone owing a couple of Indian Oil bunks. The person reported that there is nothing special about the Shell fuel, it all comes and stores in the same silos as Indian oil so there isnt any special Shell warehouse or silos to store the fuel. I guess its true though not sure as I have not seen any shell specific silos on the highways.

rajshenoy · 14th May 2012, 11:06

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Originally Posted by motomaverick

I have stopped filling in Shell after I had a discussion with someone owing a couple of Indian Oil bunks. The person reported that there is nothing special about the Shell fuel, it all comes and stores in the same silos as Indian oil so there isnt any special Shell warehouse or silos to store the fuel. I guess its true though not sure as I have not seen any shell specific silos on the highways.

Exactly, I really find it strange when some people vouch by the Shell quality and say they see noticable improvement on switching to Shell.

May be because before shell, they were going to these privately owned pumps where they look for smallest of opportunities to divert the attention and fill 50-100 rs less worth of fuel.

I have been using company owned PSU pumps as well as shell(never went to shell since last 7-8 months ) and never saw any difference in performance or FE.

svkndv · 14th May 2012, 11:17

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Originally Posted by rajshenoy

Exactly, I really find it strange when some people vouch by the Shell quality and say they see noticable improvement on switching to Shell.

May be because before shell, they were going to these privately owned pumps where they look for smallest of opportunities to divert the attention and fill 50-100 rs less worth of fuel.

I have been using company owned PSU pumps as well as shell(never went to shell since last 7-8 months ) and never saw any difference in performance or FE.

I would say it may be a placebo effect for the people who feel shell quality and quantity is better. I tried shell for 1 year and I have a fuel log for the year. Same I started maintaining for IOC this year. Last 4 months I could not find any difference on Mileage.
I find IOC pumps you get a personal attention once we get familier with them. In case of Shell respect and folding hand looks so artificial. May be some people enjoy it

motomaverick · 14th May 2012, 12:49

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Originally Posted by svkndv

I would say it may be a placebo effect for the people who feel shell quality and quantity is better. I tried shell for 1 year and I have a fuel log for the year. Same I started maintaining for IOC this year. Last 4 months I could not find any difference on Mileage.
I find IOC pumps you get a personal attention once we get familier with them. In case of Shell respect and folding hand looks so artificial. May be some people enjoy it

That kind customer service was unheard of especially at fuel bunks when shell arrived India, but now "most" of the PSU bunks have the same kind of attitude and coupled with lower price and same milage, does not make sense paying higher.

Ok we are going way

rajshenoy · 14th May 2012, 13:04

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Originally Posted by motomaverick

Ok we are going way

No we are not going off topic. I am only trying to make a point that considering the price of petrol today, its better to stop discussing about shell fuel and switch to PSU pumps.

We can re-open this thread and also re-visit shell if fuel prices drop down(i dont even want to hear fuel prices going up in my dreams)

sajo · 24th May 2012, 10:26

Looks like the fuel price hike (spike!) has not affected Shell yet :

Fuel Pricing at Shell Stations | India

OR

Their website prices are not updated that regularly.

anandpadhye · 24th May 2012, 10:32

I understand Shell does not receive any government aid to keeps prices in check.

But, I want to know - where do they get their fuel from? Do they have any refineary in India?

I know Reliance and Essar have their refineries in India and they focus on importing crude and exporting refined products (petrol, diesel, etc) rather than selling in domestic market.

volkman10 · 24th May 2012, 10:36

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Originally Posted by anandpadhye

But, I want to know - where do they get their fuel from? Do they have any refineary in India?

Shell gets them from MRPL !

Cheers!

amohit · 24th May 2012, 10:41

What I fail to understand is, Shell buys petrol from Mangalore refinary after paying them without any subsidy, transports the fuel to bangalore, pays all the taxes to govt, adds all its profits and still can price petrol 50p cheaper PUC bunks. And on the other hand... our puc oil firms still claim they are subsidizing petrol :(

Regards,

anandpadhye · 24th May 2012, 10:55

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Originally Posted by volkman10

Shell gets them from MRPL !

Cheers!

Great.
I was looking up on google and i bumped into this info.
Also, world wide they are reducing their refinery business - selling many refineries - as per them there is over capacity in refinery business world wide...

Source: allAfrica.com: Nigeria: Why We Will Not Build Refineries - Shell

Now the fundamental question - if they get from MRPL, why should their fuel be better than the fuel supplied by PUCs (I think IOC owns MRPL, right?).

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kap04 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 245 Thanked: 235 Times	Re: Shell fuel price discussion thread !! Topped up ate Shell Whitefield yesterday evening. Price of Normal Shell petrol - 81.50 Rs/litre . Has it gone down or has it been the same since last couple of weeks?
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Y@SH BHPian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Mumbai Posts: 454 Thanked: 909 Times	Re: Shell fuel price discussion thread !! Can someone please throw some light that how/why is Shell charging more for their fuel? And what are the advantages of filling from Shell? I regularly fill at BP and have never changed to any other.
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sajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,625 Thanked: 1,153 Times	Re: Shell fuel price discussion thread !! Looks like the fuel price hike (spike!) has not affected Shell yet : Fuel Pricing at Shell Stations \| India OR Their website prices are not updated that regularly.
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anandpadhye Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 3,054 Thanked: 3,309 Times	Re: Shell fuel price discussion thread !! I understand Shell does not receive any government aid to keeps prices in check. But, I want to know - where do they get their fuel from? Do they have any refineary in India? I know Reliance and Essar have their refineries in India and they focus on importing crude and exporting refined products (petrol, diesel, etc) rather than selling in domestic market.
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24th May 2012, 10:41	#1604
amohit BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 451 Thanked: 52 Times	Re: Shell fuel price discussion thread !! What I fail to understand is, Shell buys petrol from Mangalore refinary after paying them without any subsidy, transports the fuel to bangalore, pays all the taxes to govt, adds all its profits and still can price petrol 50p cheaper PUC bunks. And on the other hand... our puc oil firms still claim they are subsidizing petrol :( Regards,
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