Shell in India (fuel, lubes, outlets)

pranava999 · 11th November 2009, 21:47

Well PSU oil companies enjoy the benefit of Central Govt. subsidies while, private players such as Shell do not.

ronin · 11th November 2009, 21:50

Thats one reason why the mighty reliance had to shut down their operations.

amohit · 12th November 2009, 06:40

Also, may be the either the shell attendant was trying to be modest or he was ignorant, generally Shell diesel is purely diesel where as PSU diesel is mostly Diesel+kerosene.

and oh..by the way, Shell fuel (petrol/diesel) was priced equal to PSU fuel when the crude prices were around $ 40-45 per barrel.

Regards,

muralisk · 12th November 2009, 08:52

Very simple. Private operators like shell base their retail price on the crude prices. As Pranava has said, PUSs enjoy tax payers money as subsidies.

vista_qjd · 12th November 2009, 09:26

In Bangalore, I fuel at the Shell bunk and the diesel here costs the same as the other brands. Its 37.xx here and the IOC and BP are about 10 paise lower... thats the only difference...

Nikhilb2008 · 12th November 2009, 09:33

The quality of Shell fuel is definitely much better than normal. I didnt believe the difference was vast until I filled it in my dad's NHC Vtec just before leaving on a long drive to Mysore. That was when I realised the huge difference.

As much as possible, I will fill shell only now. Unless the price difference becomes too big.

deepaktpatil · 12th November 2009, 09:49

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

The quality of Shell fuel is definitely much better than normal. I didnt believe the difference was vast until I filled it in my dad's NHC Vtec just before leaving on a long drive to Mysore. That was when I realised the huge difference.

As much as possible, I will fill shell only now. Unless the price difference becomes too big.

+1 to what Nikhil has said.

I generally fill up at Shell while in Bangalore. On a recent drive to my place in Maharashtra my 2003 Accent returned a fuel economy of around 15.5 km/lit on highway and I have seen similar mileage returned on my other long drives. Filling at other pumps has given me around 12 km/lit.

sgiitk · 12th November 2009, 10:00

The private firms have less (or none) adulteration and under measurement, hence the feeling they are better. afaik Shell buys its petrol and diesel from PSUs or Mangalore refinery. So the qualitative difference (there definitely are) has to be due to what happens afterwards.

straightdrive · 12th November 2009, 11:41

Yes I think the subsidies to PSUs are the main reason. In Hyderabad, Shell petrol costs about Rs.1.9 more per litre than PSU petrol. Don't know about diesel.

I think the quality is definitely consistently good and another advantage with Shell is that I almost never have to wait in line. Probably because there are four PSU pumps in a radius of about 1.5 km from the Shell pump.

I think it is worth it for the petrol, time saved and the windshield wipe!

gadadhar · 12th November 2009, 17:41

I too have seen Shell returns a better average in my CRDI and I am happy to travel the extra 3 kms to get a tank full of Shell every 2 weeks. As told by Vista PSU diesel is expensive in Bangalore compared to other states and Shell comes at a negligible difference. Earlier when oil barrel price was rock bottom shell I remember had a lower price for diesel than PSUs

esteem_lover · 12th November 2009, 17:43

Simple really, SHELL buys from our PSU oil companies. They do not (or cannot) crude/fuel.

ph03n!x · 12th November 2009, 18:27

My biggest qualm- why is Shell Diesel close to 5 buck higher in Chennai, when the difference is 0.15 bucks in Bangalore

jigbarai · 12th November 2009, 18:44

Why isnt shell present anywhere in Mumbai viscinity yet ?

pranavt · 12th November 2009, 19:56

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Originally Posted by jigbarai

Why isnt shell present anywhere in Mumbai viscinity yet ?

Word. I wouldn't mind paying a few rupees extra for better fuel. Luckily, a pump owner next to my house is honest enough and doesn't cheat people in the usual ways, so I'm happy. Engine doesn't knock even at 7000 rpm, so it's all good. Would still like to fill up at Shell and see what more they offer.

H_Zoom · 12th November 2009, 20:56

I have been regurlarly filling up at Shell for the last 6 months now and thankfully I have not had to loose my temper even a single time since.
Else till then in almost every petrol bunk in Bangalore I had to get into arguements as they keep trying to con by their usual techniques such as diversion of attention and speed jumping the meter within no time or the regular fill 200 when you say 1000 and then try to re-adjust to only 800 overall and lot many tricks

11th November 2009, 21:47	#481
pranava999 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 845 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	Well PSU oil companies enjoy the benefit of Central Govt. subsidies while, private players such as Shell do not.
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11th November 2009, 21:50	#482
ronin BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Trichur Posts: 101 Thanked: 46 Times	Thats one reason why the mighty reliance had to shut down their operations.
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12th November 2009, 06:40	#483
amohit BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 451 Thanked: 52 Times	Also, may be the either the shell attendant was trying to be modest or he was ignorant, generally Shell diesel is purely diesel where as PSU diesel is mostly Diesel+kerosene. and oh..by the way, Shell fuel (petrol/diesel) was priced equal to PSU fuel when the crude prices were around $ 40-45 per barrel. Regards,
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12th November 2009, 08:52	#484
muralisk BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hyderabad, Bangalore Posts: 711 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	Very simple. Private operators like shell base their retail price on the crude prices. As Pranava has said, PUSs enjoy tax payers money as subsidies.
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12th November 2009, 09:26	#485
vista_qjd BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 200 Thanked: 50 Times	In Bangalore, I fuel at the Shell bunk and the diesel here costs the same as the other brands. Its 37.xx here and the IOC and BP are about 10 paise lower... thats the only difference...
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12th November 2009, 09:33	#486
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	The quality of Shell fuel is definitely much better than normal. I didnt believe the difference was vast until I filled it in my dad's NHC Vtec just before leaving on a long drive to Mysore. That was when I realised the huge difference. As much as possible, I will fill shell only now. Unless the price difference becomes too big.
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sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	The private firms have less (or none) adulteration and under measurement, hence the feeling they are better. afaik Shell buys its petrol and diesel from PSUs or Mangalore refinery. So the qualitative difference (there definitely are) has to be due to what happens afterwards.
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12th November 2009, 11:41	#489
straightdrive BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 259 Thanked: 5 Times	Yes I think the subsidies to PSUs are the main reason. In Hyderabad, Shell petrol costs about Rs.1.9 more per litre than PSU petrol. Don't know about diesel. I think the quality is definitely consistently good and another advantage with Shell is that I almost never have to wait in line. Probably because there are four PSU pumps in a radius of about 1.5 km from the Shell pump. I think it is worth it for the petrol, time saved and the windshield wipe!
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12th November 2009, 17:41	#490
gadadhar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,342 Thanked: 1,116 Times View My Garage	I too have seen Shell returns a better average in my CRDI and I am happy to travel the extra 3 kms to get a tank full of Shell every 2 weeks. As told by Vista PSU diesel is expensive in Bangalore compared to other states and Shell comes at a negligible difference. Earlier when oil barrel price was rock bottom shell I remember had a lower price for diesel than PSUs
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12th November 2009, 17:43	#491
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	Simple really, SHELL buys from our PSU oil companies. They do not (or cannot) crude/fuel.
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12th November 2009, 18:27	#492
ph03n!x Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 2,566 Thanked: 5,960 Times	My biggest qualm- why is Shell Diesel close to 5 buck higher in Chennai, when the difference is 0.15 bucks in Bangalore
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12th November 2009, 18:44	#493
jigbarai BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 554 Thanked: 29 Times	Why isnt shell present anywhere in Mumbai viscinity yet ?
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12th November 2009, 20:56	#495
H_Zoom BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 43 Thanked: 0 Times	I have been regurlarly filling up at Shell for the last 6 months now and thankfully I have not had to loose my temper even a single time since. Else till then in almost every petrol bunk in Bangalore I had to get into arguements as they keep trying to con by their usual techniques such as diversion of attention and speed jumping the meter within no time or the regular fill 200 when you say 1000 and then try to re-adjust to only 800 overall and lot many tricks
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