Shell in India (fuel, lubes, outlets)

libranof1987 · 4th May 2011, 19:03

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Originally Posted by mempheS.D

I might be doing a repeat here, but, can someone help me understand whether an SHELL NORMAL Unleaded petrol, if used in a car who's manufacturer recommends 91 grade petrol, void the warranty?

Car: Fabia 1.6 2011 (counting days to delivery!)
Location: Bangalore
Fuel station options: Shell @Bommanahalli & IOC company pump. (prefer shell though)

Set off to book the car after the sales guy told me that normal unleaded is what the car needs, but another fellow bhpian just provided me with photo proof that the manufacturer recommends 91 grade. :-( Now, that means, I'm gonna have to shell out another 400rs for every tank up. Oops !

No! It is merely a recommendation. It cannot be grounds for warranty to be void.

And IIRC, all the "regular" fuel sold in India IS 91 grade. (Premium, Hi-speed etc. has a higher octane)

vigneshnr · 4th May 2011, 19:21

Mostoften I refill from shell @ bommanahalli. I find their service and fuel quality much better. My mileage invariably was consistent and high. Yesterday I was shellshoked to know Rs. 74.XX for 1000ml.
For a moment I felt that I've landed in future.
My rationale doesn't allow to pay so much premium for fuel. I don't think 10rupees is justified. I just filled for 1000 bucks hesitantly and moved on. Can someone quantify the raise in prices at shell ?

Gansan · 4th May 2011, 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by mempheS.D

I might be doing a repeat here, but, can someone help me understand whether an SHELL NORMAL Unleaded petrol, if used in a car who's manufacturer recommends 91 grade petrol, void the warranty?

Car: Fabia 1.6 2011 (counting days to delivery!)
Location: Bangalore
Fuel station options: Shell @Bommanahalli & IOC company pump. (prefer shell though)

Set off to book the car after the sales guy told me that normal unleaded is what the car needs, but another fellow bhpian just provided me with photo proof that the manufacturer recommends 91 grade. :-( Now, that means, I'm gonna have to shell out another 400rs for every tank up. Oops !

All, repeat all, petrol sold in metro cities was 91 RON. Post Bharat IV implementation, I think it is now 93 RON. So there is no question of voiding warranty for any car. Even the premium fuels of any brand are of the same RON, but contain additives to keep the engine clean. The only exception is Speed 97, which is 97 RON.

Born 2 Be Wild · 4th May 2011, 23:10

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Originally Posted by Gansan

All, repeat all, petrol sold in metro cities was 91 RON. Post Bharat IV implementation, I think it is now 93 RON. So there is no question of voiding warranty for any car. Even the premium fuels of any brand are of the same RON, but contain additives to keep the engine clean. The only exception is Speed 97, which is 97 RON.

Normal fuel post BS 4 Is 91 Octane, not 93 Octane. Premium fuels are mostly 91 Octane mixed with Additives, Exception Is speed 97 from BPCL.

Gansan · 4th May 2011, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Born 2 Be Wild

Normal fuel post BS 4 Is 91 Octane.

Is it so? Because I am sure they were 91 RON even before BS IV.

Born 2 Be Wild · 4th May 2011, 23:30

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Originally Posted by Gansan

Is it so? Because I am sure they were 91 RON even before BS IV.

BS4 was never about increasing the octane rating of fuels it only lowered the Sulfur content in fuels and made the fuels cleaner.

aravinrd · 6th May 2011, 22:45

Any one have an idea if the Reliance petrol outlet at Maraimalaingar is functioning now and what would be the price/liter, would it be same as Shell?

MA5K · 7th May 2011, 00:53

77.5 per liter in Bangalore now for Super!!! :(

Feel like going back to regular HP/BP/IO fuel.. :(

Sunrise · 7th May 2011, 08:32

Here is some math that i did
I have seen that Shell Normal and PSU premium are the same grade, in terms of the way car runs- must be some data to support this
PSU Premium is about 69 Rs(rounded off) and Shell Normal 75
I fill about 50 liters a month
With PSU:
Assuming a mileage of 12, i fill worth Rs 3450.00
With Shell:
I get a little better mileage i have seen, 13 and i fill worth 3750
Difference is a run of 50 kms more with Shell mileage
This means i need to fill worth R 272.00 more in PSU to equate the run
The difference in outflow is R 28.00!!
Is there something that i am missing?
Looking at this, worth to fill shell, still!
The equation changes if i compare NORMAL PSU to NORMAL Shell
Still about 200 Rs saved only, and the peace of mind of getting proper quality and quantity??
Views, Thoughts?
PS: I filled PSU last few times and then did this maths, now deciding where to go!

Captain Slow · 10th May 2011, 14:31

Bangalore - Shell regular is now 74.xx

libranof1987 · 10th May 2011, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunrise

Here is some math that i did
I have seen that Shell Normal and PSU premium are the same grade, in terms of the way car runs- must be some data to support this
PSU Premium is about 69 Rs(rounded off) and Shell Normal 75
I fill about 50 liters a month
With PSU:
Assuming a mileage of 12, i fill worth Rs 3450.00
With Shell:
I get a little better mileage i have seen, 13 and i fill worth 3750
Difference is a run of 50 kms more with Shell mileage
This means i need to fill worth R 272.00 more in PSU to equate the run
The difference in outflow is R 28.00!!
Is there something that i am missing?
Looking at this, worth to fill shell, still!
The equation changes if i compare NORMAL PSU to NORMAL Shell
Still about 200 Rs saved only, and the peace of mind of getting proper quality and quantity??
Views, Thoughts?
PS: I filled PSU last few times and then did this maths, now deciding where to go!

PSU Normal is 65-odd and Shell Normal is 74-odd so consider a difference of 10 (for ease of calculation). You save Rs 10/l and based on your 50litres a month, that works out to Rs. 500/month and about 92 kms more of running.

Firstly, decide if you need PSU premium at all; most sedans/hatches don't "need" premium fuel.

It's up to you to decide if that 500/month is worth it and also how further you are willing to go for Shell.

A diff. up to Rs. 2-3 is fine for me to line-up at Shell, not more than that.

Reisender · 11th May 2011, 17:25

Shell bunk at Chromepet, Chennai
Diesel cost - 62.xx INR/Litre

Last time i filled was at 48/l and really got shocked when the attender told the cost of a litre.
Of course, it is regular diesel

karty_83 · 15th May 2011, 15:37

Is there a price hike in shell as well ? It was around 74 until last week !!

r_devakumar · 15th May 2011, 17:01

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Originally Posted by karty_83

Is there a price hike in shell as well ? It was around 74 until last week !!

Looks like no increase in Chennai. I filled Shell normal today at East Tambaram and the price is same as last week (Rs.74.xx)

Gansan · 15th May 2011, 20:35

Filled Shell Super @ Rs77.45 per litre today. This price itself was effected on 1st May, so I don't think there will be any immediate increase.

4th May 2011, 19:21	#1217
vigneshnr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bangalore Posts: 198 Thanked: 181 Times View My Garage	re: Shell fuel price discussion thread. Update: Going down cheaper than PSU's. Mostoften I refill from shell @ bommanahalli. I find their service and fuel quality much better. My mileage invariably was consistent and high. Yesterday I was shellshoked to know Rs. 74.XX for 1000ml. For a moment I felt that I've landed in future. My rationale doesn't allow to pay so much premium for fuel. I don't think 10rupees is justified. I just filled for 1000 bucks hesitantly and moved on. Can someone quantify the raise in prices at shell ?
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6th May 2011, 22:45	#1222
aravinrd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chennai Posts: 115 Thanked: 4 Times	re: Shell fuel price discussion thread. Update: Going down cheaper than PSU's. Any one have an idea if the Reliance petrol outlet at Maraimalaingar is functioning now and what would be the price/liter, would it be same as Shell?
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7th May 2011, 00:53	#1223
MA5K BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 76 Thanked: 11 Times	re: Shell fuel price discussion thread. Update: Going down cheaper than PSU's. 77.5 per liter in Bangalore now for Super!!! :( Feel like going back to regular HP/BP/IO fuel.. :(
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7th May 2011, 08:32	#1224
Sunrise BANNED Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 59 Thanked: 12 Times	re: Shell fuel price discussion thread. Update: Going down cheaper than PSU's. Here is some math that i did I have seen that Shell Normal and PSU premium are the same grade, in terms of the way car runs- must be some data to support this PSU Premium is about 69 Rs(rounded off) and Shell Normal 75 I fill about 50 liters a month With PSU: Assuming a mileage of 12, i fill worth Rs 3450.00 With Shell: I get a little better mileage i have seen, 13 and i fill worth 3750 Difference is a run of 50 kms more with Shell mileage This means i need to fill worth R 272.00 more in PSU to equate the run The difference in outflow is R 28.00!! Is there something that i am missing? Looking at this, worth to fill shell, still! The equation changes if i compare NORMAL PSU to NORMAL Shell Still about 200 Rs saved only, and the peace of mind of getting proper quality and quantity?? Views, Thoughts? PS: I filled PSU last few times and then did this maths, now deciding where to go!
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10th May 2011, 14:31	#1225
Captain Slow Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,549 Thanked: 1,956 Times	re: Shell fuel price discussion thread. Update: Going down cheaper than PSU's. Bangalore - Shell regular is now 74.xx
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11th May 2011, 17:25	#1227
Reisender BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Atlanta, USA ; Chennai India Posts: 157 Thanked: 61 Times	re: Shell fuel price discussion thread. Update: Going down cheaper than PSU's. Shell bunk at Chromepet, Chennai Diesel cost - 62.xx INR/Litre Last time i filled was at 48/l and really got shocked when the attender told the cost of a litre. Of course, it is regular diesel
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15th May 2011, 15:37	#1228
karty_83 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 399 Thanked: 166 Times	re: Shell fuel price discussion thread. Update: Going down cheaper than PSU's. Is there a price hike in shell as well ? It was around 74 until last week !!
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15th May 2011, 20:35	#1230
Gansan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,534 Thanked: 5,543 Times	re: Shell fuel price discussion thread. Update: Going down cheaper than PSU's. Filled Shell Super @ Rs77.45 per litre today. This price itself was effected on 1st May, so I don't think there will be any immediate increase.
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