Ambassador Grand in TCIC

bullboy · 8th June 2008, 22:58

I heard about ambassador grand is available in 2000 ISZ TCIC 74 bhp engine and also heard about a company claimed mileage of 19.5 kpl.
guys, please enlighten about the performance ,test drive observations, price,
and is it worth to buy .

Akshay1234 · 8th June 2008, 23:19

AFAIK the isuzu diesel has been available in the amby for a long, long time. i dont think buying the amby now makes any sense unless your gonna plonk in a big block v8 and make it a hot rod or something.

manikjeet · 8th June 2008, 23:21

we had one (company owned) not the grand 10 years ago and it always returned 15-16km/l loved its rare seat( not the rare seat but rear seat)

Veelubai · 8th June 2008, 23:21

I think bullboy meant that the Amby ISZ diesel engine is now launched in its Turbo charged avatar.

theMAG · 8th June 2008, 23:24

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Originally Posted by manikjeet

..l loved its rare seat

What was so rare about it?

bullboy · 8th June 2008, 23:25

yes veelubai . it is there in HM website.
Ambassador GRAND : Specifications
earlier it was under powered.

Akshay1234 · 8th June 2008, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullboy

yes veelubai . it is there in HM website.
Ambassador GRAND : Specifications
earlier it was under powered.

and 74bhp is what?

1100D · 9th June 2008, 01:10

Ambassador grand Turbo is being sold for quite some time now in Calcutta. I have driven one at around the end of 2006 or the beginning of 2007 I dont recall properly. I dont remember properly but I think it had disk brakes all around (forgot to verify looking thru the rim holes). Coming to the engine, still miles to go before it can be termed desirable. The Turbo lag was quite big, but the bigger problem was vehicle dynamics. 1800 ISZ being more powerful and also refined in power delivery feels more pliant in that part than does this. But then, this Amby was really Grand with Sunroof and all (although the beige door handles and plastic dashboard would make Tata look like a class act)

bullboy · 9th June 2008, 10:05

. i expected something more from amby.

jkdas · 9th June 2008, 10:27

How you differentiate if from other Ambys

If its new, its doesnt smoke much
else, if you are following an older one, careful, you may need to switch on your fog lamps.

musicmanaman · 9th June 2008, 13:47

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Originally Posted by 1100D

Ambassador grand Turbo is being sold for quite some time now in Calcutta. I have driven one at around the end of 2006 or the beginning of 2007 I dont recall properly. I dont remember properly but I think it had disk brakes all around (forgot to verify looking thru the rim holes). Coming to the engine, still miles to go before it can be termed desirable. The Turbo lag was quite big, but the bigger problem was vehicle dynamics. 1800 ISZ being more powerful and also refined in power delivery feels more pliant in that part than does this. But then, this Amby was really Grand with Sunroof and all (although the beige door handles and plastic dashboard would make Tata look like a class act)

Are you sure that it was the Turbo grand? as the technical specifications on the website, shows that it's more powerfull than the 1800 Isuzu. By the way I drive the Amby Avigo 1800 Isuzu, and was wondering how the TCIC would feel, as the power on paper seems much higher than the 1800 Isuzu.

Blue Thunder · 9th June 2008, 14:13

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Originally Posted by musicmanaman

... By the way I drive the Amby Avigo 1800 Isuzu, and was wondering how the TCIC would feel, as the power on paper seems much higher than the 1800 Isuzu.

Your Avigo's engine is probably the 80HP Isuzu engine...the newer ones are de-rated to 71HP (maybe for meeting the BSIII specs).

Also, the power spread across the RPM range should definitely be better in the petrol than in the diesel/turbo-diesel. Even though the max power of the turbo diesel is 76 HP, I doubt if it would accelerate as casually as the 71HP petrol.

rajtheindian · 22nd February 2009, 18:47

It seems HM has withdrawn the TCIC engine from Ambassador, I was unable to find this engine in their website. It’s a shame the options in diesel are 35 BHP 1.5L or 50 BHP 2L. Tech Spec 2.0L
It looks like Amby’s days are counted. Another classic Indian motoring icon soon will be a memory!

sidindica · 22nd February 2009, 19:53

the turbo diesel grand has been on sale since may 2005 when the car was upgraded to meet euro-3 norms.

vineethvazhayil · 23rd February 2009, 09:42

35 BHP car of that size? they must be kidding. Someone put some brains in the HM folks head!
I saw a purple ambassador yesterday in Chennai. Couldn't really take a snap, it sped away in the traffic, and from the newish registration, it didn't look like a repainted one. What a color choice

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8th June 2008, 22:58	#1
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	Ambassador Grand in TCIC I heard about ambassador grand is available in 2000 ISZ TCIC 74 bhp engine and also heard about a company claimed mileage of 19.5 kpl. guys, please enlighten about the performance ,test drive observations, price, and is it worth to buy .
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8th June 2008, 23:19	#2
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	AFAIK the isuzu diesel has been available in the amby for a long, long time. i dont think buying the amby now makes any sense unless your gonna plonk in a big block v8 and make it a hot rod or something.
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8th June 2008, 23:21	#3
manikjeet Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 1,618 Thanked: 295 Times View My Garage	we had one (company owned) not the grand 10 years ago and it always returned 15-16km/l loved its rare seat( not the rare seat but rear seat) Last edited by manikjeet : 8th June 2008 at 23:28. Reason: spelling mistake
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8th June 2008, 23:21	#4
Veelubai BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: B'lore/Trichur Posts: 317 Thanked: 87 Times	I think bullboy meant that the Amby ISZ diesel engine is now launched in its Turbo charged avatar.
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8th June 2008, 23:25	#6
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	yes veelubai . it is there in HM website. Ambassador GRAND : Specifications earlier it was under powered.
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9th June 2008, 01:10	#8
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,390 Thanked: 4,079 Times View My Garage	Ambassador grand Turbo is being sold for quite some time now in Calcutta. I have driven one at around the end of 2006 or the beginning of 2007 I dont recall properly. I dont remember properly but I think it had disk brakes all around (forgot to verify looking thru the rim holes). Coming to the engine, still miles to go before it can be termed desirable. The Turbo lag was quite big, but the bigger problem was vehicle dynamics. 1800 ISZ being more powerful and also refined in power delivery feels more pliant in that part than does this. But then, this Amby was really Grand with Sunroof and all (although the beige door handles and plastic dashboard would make Tata look like a class act)
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9th June 2008, 10:05	#9
bullboy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 608 Thanked: 89 Times	. i expected something more from amby.
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9th June 2008, 10:27	#10
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	How you differentiate if from other Ambys If its new, its doesnt smoke much else, if you are following an older one, careful, you may need to switch on your fog lamps.
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22nd February 2009, 18:47	#13
rajtheindian BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Syracuse, US Posts: 247 Thanked: 7 Times	It seems HM has withdrawn the TCIC engine from Ambassador, I was unable to find this engine in their website. It’s a shame the options in diesel are 35 BHP 1.5L or 50 BHP 2L. Tech Spec 2.0L It looks like Amby’s days are counted. Another classic Indian motoring icon soon will be a memory!
	() Thanks

22nd February 2009, 19:53	#14
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,892 Thanked: 8,106 Times	the turbo diesel grand has been on sale since may 2005 when the car was upgraded to meet euro-3 norms.
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23rd February 2009, 09:42	#15
vineethvazhayil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 1,513 Thanked: 456 Times View My Garage	35 BHP car of that size? they must be kidding. Someone put some brains in the HM folks head! I saw a purple ambassador yesterday in Chennai. Couldn't really take a snap, it sped away in the traffic, and from the newish registration, it didn't look like a repainted one. What a color choice !
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