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bblost;888047]@married2speed: brilliant. Was a pleasure reading your post.
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Thanks mate. It's equally nice to read your other posts. Quite an insight.
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apachelongbow;888113]I too loved his post. On the hind sight, why do I pay for the mistakes of others? Consider this against those SUV's with the bull bars, what happens if my crumple zone equipped car is banged by these monsters?
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What would you rather have? A broken car or a broken predestrian or lord forbid the worse -a night in prison? I guess you would rather pay for the repair for your car rather than bribe the cops to wriggle your way out. Suv v/s a honda crash, you would be better of being in the car which looks the worst as that car is usually believed to be on the right track in comparasion with those who just suffer a minor dent.
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srishiva;888126]The car owner pays the price for his own saved life. They cannot design crumple zones differently for different cars/vehicles that would hit your car.
Not all mistakes from others will damage just your car and not you
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Precisely my point apachelongbow. Well said srishiva
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PatchyBoy;888234]A potential loss of a great athelete?
Maybe an Olympic Medal, just vanished?
Head injuries, the cyclist facing permanent loss of some controls?
And all we can discuss is crumple zone of OHC?
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You really think that in this cricket crazy world, any other sport even matters to us
Jokes apart, I do feel sorry for the kid but there's little that can be done now. I'm sure whatever can be done, is being done by his parents. We on our part are creating social awareness which isn't such a bad thing to do. Is it? If Honda is so bad, then maybe we should all stop buying their car but this charge is yet to be proved. Maybe we could have a poll on this mods? That should be interesting.
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supremeBaleno;888249]@M2S, while I agree with most of your analysis about the accident under discussion, I am surprised how you came to the following conclusion.
Care to explain the rationale behind the statement ?
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Sure Supreme Baleno - I'm not sure if you are aware but sometime back, the 800 has failed the crash tests. Not too sure if they still do it on the current lot, (the norms require it) but on the internet, there's a lot of speculation that the 800'z do not undergo crash test, although MUL begs to differ for obvious reasons. As soon as I can find the relevant page, I"ll have it put in here.
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You are perfectly correct here that Honda has provided good pedestrian safety.
But then what would happen if the car hits a truck or SUV ? Then wont the safety of the occupants of the car be at risk ? If this is the state of car after hitting a bicycle with a human being, then if the cars hit another car or truck on the road, then the occupants of G2HC will perish
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If you manage to survive the crash - read explanation above given to apachelongbow. If not, then -> not point answering the question
. Jokes apart. My friend, it's not all about the car. There are a lot of factors, incidents, scenarios that exsist in a crash. Speed of crash is very important as that determines the forces involved. Luck would the 2nd factor that I personally would take into consideration. Presence of mind of the driver, skill, tyres, brakes are few of the factors that go into saving someone's life in a crash. For those who are insisting on airbags and ABS in Honda, food for though is, what good those be when a person, is drunk/sleepy, and is driving on a highway with bald tyres. Are we still going to blame the car here should that person happen to loose his life? Or are we saying that such a person would survive a crash under similar circumstances in a TATA or a FIAT?
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Even in the most horrific of crashes we have yet to encounter fatalities as the cage remains resistant to deformity.
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All modern cars are designed with progressive crumple zones and much focus is laid to the impact of a car with a pedestrian. The use of plastics, sloping bonnets etc are all in light of this. A rigid structure that resists giving in will invariably cause more harm to the pedestrian. So be it the outer skin or the front inner structure it is meant to cave in to absorb the max shock
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Absolutely true. To add to this, what would you rather have. The tough steel factor and hours struggling to cut the steel to get the passengers out only to save you from car repairs or a crumpled NHC which would help in taking out trapped passengers and providing them with necessary medical assistance in time.
For those who are questioning the "attitude of honda", we all remember the picture of the ford icon that was cut into 2 in Mumbai( there's a thread floating around here somewhere about worst accident in India). Go have a look and then come back with questions about Honda and this is being said not too boost the image of the company, but to provide an insight that at the moment, given the cost : output scenario, (VFM), honda should score better than it's competitors.
Cheers!
M2S
PS: Should things still not be clear, we can get into techinicalities and the assembly production of honda and how each segment works to offer maximum safety in it's possible structure.
On OT - I personally don't like the way the Honda looks and was never inclined to buy it, but ... in stead, wanted a TATA safari.