Sx4 Hatchback ... A Perfect Fabia Killer?

agbenny · 31st July 2008, 12:18

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Originally Posted by TeddyBear

MUL's next plan is a sedan from Wagon R or Alto

Also M800 Sedan. You missed that.

ac 427 · 31st July 2008, 14:13

there is no plan to get the hatch here. they had considered to get the suzuki-fiat developed sx4 mini SUV here which has 4 wd.

but no sx4 hatch from suzuki. fiat wont launc that hatch here because they are launching the GP here.

ac

vnabhi · 31st July 2008, 15:05

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Originally Posted by neoranjit

any why do you think so ?

No offence : but if maruti had a higher price tag and if had their spares extremely expensive ( like the 2000+ odd wheel cap cover from another thread ) , would the world have agreed that the sx4 was indeed a premium product ?

Well, the rear lights of the Baleno were costing around 20K, so did that make Baleno a premium product?

me_sid · 31st July 2008, 15:13

Yeah seen this baby in my last trip to Jakarta. This actualy is suzuki "Xover" whereas the SX4's we have in India are know as Baleno's. So much so for product segmentation

balenopower · 31st July 2008, 15:14

The baleno was a premium product when launched...at least thats what maruti thought.Some how the sx4 hatchback looks more proportional than its sedan sibling.

gowda79 · 31st July 2008, 15:30

This SX4 Hatchback as a one good vehicle for the Indian market but it is wrong to compare this with the Fabia.

samirsarkar · 31st July 2008, 16:57

When will Suzuki ever launch its VVT engines in India in one of their vehicles ?? I had hoped that the SX4 will have at least one of the variants with the VVT engine like Honda has for the City. Suzuki never seems to be interested in going above the 8.5 lakh price barrier in India, maybe due to presence of strong competitors like Toyota & Honda.

Tron · 5th August 2008, 13:30

I have the all wheel drive version of this car with 2.0l petrol engine. I won't call it a luxury car by any means. Audi is a luxury car. Suzuki is just a regular car.

It's quite a trooper. It handles decently well off road (not a serious offroader, but a softroader) on unpaved roads in the forest. Here's a photo of my car after I got it all muddy.

jaganm · 5th August 2008, 13:52

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Originally Posted by vnabhi

Why do we need a Fabia killer? Fabia has already killed itself, going by the sales figures.

Not if you believe Autocar, Fabia sales are going through the roof

veyron1 · 5th August 2008, 17:10

The SX4 hatch is not worth being launched in India. Unless Suzuki plans to phase out the Swift. Ha-ha.

@amit: Why do you think that Maruti messed up on the SX4? It's the hottest selling "luxury sedan" on the southern side of 10 lacs. Runner-up-ped by the NHC...

Skoda has no business selling the Fabia at 9 lacs. Neither should they be allowed to sell the Octavia alongside the Laura. But then, they are doing it with panache now, aren't they. Just because of lack of competition. Garh.

Honda, where art thou? They should launch the Civic hatch at 10 lacs; I bet Honda could move them 200 ponies faster than you could spell S-K-O-D-A.

Steeroid · 5th August 2008, 17:18

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Originally Posted by rkbharat

By the way I saw a SX4 Hatch in Tokyo yesterday, but did not saw a single sedan in last 1 week.

Probably because the sedan is not available there. The SX4 sedan was launched here in DXB yesterday, 1+ years after the AWD hatch was, with a 1.6 litre 107 bhp engine and a 2 litre 142 bhp engine.

oss · 5th August 2008, 19:03

It's actually a cross-over and this happens to the original design. Do a search for Sedici, which is the name it is sold in most of the markets by Fiat.
The hatch is an after thought and that is the reason for the unproportionate look of SX4

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Though it will be a nice niche, not sure if Maruti would want to go there, as they normally target volumes than niche.

MadRash · 22nd August 2008, 17:02

Even if this SX4 hatch is released in India, you still have to live with the rattle sound and poor build you face with the Suzukis. In no way it will match the German engineered Fabia (including the price.)

Regards
Mahesh S

Tron · 12th November 2009, 14:29

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Originally Posted by MadRash

Even if this SX4 hatch is released in India, you still have to live with the rattle sound and poor build you face with the Suzukis. In no way it will match the German engineered Fabia (including the price.)

Regards
Mahesh S

You mean Czech Republic engineered Fabia?

shankar.balan · 12th November 2009, 15:21

SX4 Hatch build quality and rattlybits will put paid to comparison to Fabia - but frankly Fabia Combi, when it is launched would be the correct comparison to make.

Maruti will definitely score over Skoda in terms of dealers, sales and service network and the vehicle can become a good sales success in comparison with the Fabia-combi.

And one can reasonably expect pricing for these two vehicles to be comparable - they will all be subsumed into being part of the Premium Hatch/Crossover segment as and when they come in.

31st July 2008, 14:13	#32
ac 427 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,393 Thanked: 244 Times View My Garage	there is no plan to get the hatch here. they had considered to get the suzuki-fiat developed sx4 mini SUV here which has 4 wd. but no sx4 hatch from suzuki. fiat wont launc that hatch here because they are launching the GP here. ac
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31st July 2008, 15:13	#34
me_sid BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 318 Thanked: 208 Times	Yeah seen this baby in my last trip to Jakarta. This actualy is suzuki "Xover" whereas the SX4's we have in India are know as Baleno's. So much so for product segmentation
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balenopower BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 957 Thanked: 465 Times View My Garage	The baleno was a premium product when launched...at least thats what maruti thought.Some how the sx4 hatchback looks more proportional than its sedan sibling.
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31st July 2008, 15:30	#36
gowda79 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,478 Thanked: 194 Times View My Garage	This SX4 Hatchback as a one good vehicle for the Indian market but it is wrong to compare this with the Fabia.
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samirsarkar BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 166 Thanked: 5 Times	When will Suzuki ever launch its VVT engines in India in one of their vehicles ?? I had hoped that the SX4 will have at least one of the variants with the VVT engine like Honda has for the City. Suzuki never seems to be interested in going above the 8.5 lakh price barrier in India, maybe due to presence of strong competitors like Toyota & Honda.
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5th August 2008, 13:30	#38
Tron BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New York Posts: 67 Thanked: 3 Times	I have the all wheel drive version of this car with 2.0l petrol engine. I won't call it a luxury car by any means. Audi is a luxury car. Suzuki is just a regular car. It's quite a trooper. It handles decently well off road (not a serious offroader, but a softroader) on unpaved roads in the forest. Here's a photo of my car after I got it all muddy.
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5th August 2008, 17:10	#40
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	The SX4 hatch is not worth being launched in India. Unless Suzuki plans to phase out the Swift. Ha-ha. @amit: Why do you think that Maruti messed up on the SX4? It's the hottest selling "luxury sedan" on the southern side of 10 lacs. Runner-up-ped by the NHC... Skoda has no business selling the Fabia at 9 lacs. Neither should they be allowed to sell the Octavia alongside the Laura. But then, they are doing it with panache now, aren't they. Just because of lack of competition. Garh. Honda, where art thou? They should launch the Civic hatch at 10 lacs; I bet Honda could move them 200 ponies faster than you could spell S-K-O-D-A.
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5th August 2008, 19:03	#42
oss BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 683 Thanked: 6 Times	It's actually a cross-over and this happens to the original design. Do a search for Sedici, which is the name it is sold in most of the markets by Fiat. The hatch is an after thought and that is the reason for the unproportionate look of SX4 . Though it will be a nice niche, not sure if Maruti would want to go there, as they normally target volumes than niche.
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22nd August 2008, 17:02	#43
MadRash BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Madras Posts: 243 Thanked: 3 Times	Even if this SX4 hatch is released in India, you still have to live with the rattle sound and poor build you face with the Suzukis. In no way it will match the German engineered Fabia (including the price.) Regards Mahesh S
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12th November 2009, 15:21	#45
shankar.balan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,368 Thanked: 23,140 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/2 (8)	SX4 Hatch build quality and rattlybits will put paid to comparison to Fabia - but frankly Fabia Combi, when it is launched would be the correct comparison to make. Maruti will definitely score over Skoda in terms of dealers, sales and service network and the vehicle can become a good sales success in comparison with the Fabia-combi. And one can reasonably expect pricing for these two vehicles to be comparable - they will all be subsumed into being part of the Premium Hatch/Crossover segment as and when they come in.
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