Mahindra Ingenio -Officially announced as XYLO EDIT: Celebration Edition on Page 60

amitk26 · 14th January 2009, 00:51

Well to me this looks like a flower horn cichlid. For those who are not in to the hobby of aquariums here is a picture.

Flowerhorn Cichlid, Hua Luo Han, Hybrid

Apart from looks there is another similarity

flower horns do not exist in nature and a man made hybrid of various cichlids , And so is Xylo a badly created contraption picking design ideas from various places.

gshanky · 14th January 2009, 01:23

Enough! talking about the pictures. Lets have some test drive reports

vinaydas · 14th January 2009, 01:57

parm you mean scorpio left the safari way behind other than the sumo.. i think before it was pitched against the sumo but now its directly pitched against the safari

bigman · 14th January 2009, 02:22

Looking at it side on the rear quarter looks a bit bloated. Why waste all that money designing a new model when they could have bought the plans for an obselete model from one of the auto majors. There is nothing that makes you say WOW I must get one of those (apart from the the price of the base model).

undead · 14th January 2009, 06:09

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Originally Posted by Parm

in india cars/vehicles dont sell by the way how they look....but how much they cost!

so i predict another winner from M&M. Xylo will go the same way Scorpio left sumo way behind.

Xylo will leave behind innova and will be a winner! (mark my famous words)

cheers:

. Most Indian customers need Fuel Efficiency , Comfort , Lower Maintenance Costs , Price tag. Seems Xylo suits this budget .

HappyWheels · 14th January 2009, 07:19

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

now after going through this thread, after hearing all the negatives about the xylo, i am sure its gonna be a super success!

Oh, come on Raj. You make it sound like most of us here look exactly the opposite of what the rest of the motor buying world does.

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

Errr... Sumo Grande has 'sales'?

That was a good one. One can't make a dent on a non-existent sales chart!

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Originally Posted by Parm

...Xylo will leave behind innova and will be a winner! (mark my famous words)...

Xylo will have it's own set of followers, that much can be guranteed, due to the good interiors (as I make it from the presentation) and the engine and maybe for the looks also. But in no way, IMHO, will it cause a set back to the Scorpio's or Safari's or Innova's. They are in a different league.

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Originally Posted by iraghava

I'm invited to the North regional launch of the XYLO tomorrow. Let's see how the car looks in person & the whole hoopla about space etc. etc.

Great! We will finally have a first hand account. Iraghava, please do not forget the camera.

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Originally Posted by nitinchawla

Well, not quite..people want value for money and quality. Innova is a proven vehicle and great value for money.

I think it is highly unlikely that the Xylo can make a dent in the Innova market. What the Scorpio did to the Sumo, Xylo will probably not do to the Innova.
Scorpio was a better product than Sumo at the time and besides, TATA is not considered in the same league as Toyota. This time if Mahindra is to beat Toyota, they have to have a really superior product. We'll soon know

Right on!

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Originally Posted by undead

. Most Indian customers need Fuel Efficiency , Comfort , Lower Maintenance Costs , Price tag. Seems Xylo suits this budget .

But when targetting the sedan users, do you think they will be interested? But then, tag lines are just for first impressions.

Mpower · 14th January 2009, 08:17

Which engine is this? Is it the one from the Bolero Crde. So looks like now they have 3 Common Rail engines. 2.6, 2.2 and 2.5

aaggoswami · 14th January 2009, 08:39

I saw the car and interiors in at the official website. This car does have a punch, but the fact that saloons will be hit is something I cannot digest. The car is nice and interiors are much better than Scorpio. Also space is nice as compared to Scorpio. Except the front end design that could have been more detailed to make it look classy to the rear end that is straight away lifted from a minivan, the car is well proportioned.

I think the segment it will be most successful is the taxi market, just like qualis. Only the high end versions will be taken away by large families. Here the competition from Innova will be intense. However, I am sure Tavera will be hit as already the image of Mahindra is good for these UV vehicles, add to that a good product. Powertrain performance remains to be seen. I expect it to be as good as Innova as much better performane than Tavera.

But sedans will not be scared of this car. That is not possible that Xylo will mark end of sedans.

kochicar · 14th January 2009, 09:03

From the xylo website:

Safety
Tubeless tyres
intellipark reverse assist (useless while cruising)
Engine immobilizer (Transponder based) (useless while cruising)

Are they keeping any tubeless tyre in the dash/steering wheel instead of an airbag??

PS: only pun intended.

jkdas · 14th January 2009, 09:10

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Which engine is this? Is it the one from the Bolero Crde. So looks like now they have 3 Common Rail engines. 2.6, 2.2 and 2.5

The 2.6 that comes in the mHawk. Detuned I guess.

The car looks Versaish. More taller than one expects. People expected an Innovaish stuff to be a sedan better at a nice price and looks.

khan_sultan · 14th January 2009, 09:15

In the name of all that is holy, what is this??? what were mahindra folks smoking while designing this? I think that all the Maruti Zen Stylo team was hired by Mahindra folks to work on this.

It may be a success or a hit with taxi segment etc etc.. but there is no denying the fact that it looks hideous at best -- visually.

School children could make a vehicle look better than what folks at Mahindra have done.

Cheers,

kiren · 14th January 2009, 09:16

The more I look at XYLO I find it not as bad as I initially felt. Most probably I expected more out of M&M.

The side elevation is quite ok. Alloys are great. Colours I Liked. What I didnt like is the grill. I think this car should do ok incase it perforrms well. Now all depends on this new engine (M eagle)

Parm · 14th January 2009, 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinaydas

parm you mean scorpio left the safari way behind other than the sumo.. i think before it was pitched against the sumo but now its directly pitched against the safari

i never mentioned scorpio against safari.....i said scorpio left sumo behind! read my post again...please.

cheers:

raj_5004 · 14th January 2009, 09:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyWheels

Oh, come on Raj. You make it sound like most of us here look exactly the opposite of what the rest of the motor buying world does.

not contradicting anybody's opinions in here. just a general feeling.

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Originally Posted by jkdas

The 2.6 that comes in the mHawk. Detuned I guess.

wrong. mHawk's crde 2.2 unit is an entirely new engine built from scratch. the 2.6 crde that comes in the scorpio Crde is based on the SZ engine from the non-crde scorpio.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parm

i never mentioned scorpio against safari.....i said scorpio left sumo behind! read my post again...please.

cheers:

buddy, scorpio was never pitched against the sumo. the sumo is way cheaper than the scorpio. the top end mHawk scorpio costs 11.5 lakhs on-road. its a competition to the innova & safari, not the sumo.

jkdas · 14th January 2009, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by raj_5004

not contradicting anybody's opinions in here. just a general feeling.

wrong. mHawk's crde 2.2 unit is an entirely new engine built from scratch. the 2.6 crde that comes in the scorpio Crde is based on the SZ engine from the non-crde scorpio.

buddy, scorpio was never pitched against the sumo. the sumo is way cheaper than the scorpio. the top end mHawk scorpio costs 11.5 lakhs on-road. its a competition to the innova & safari, not the sumo.

Thanks for pointing it out

Sumo Grande is priced very near to the base Scorpios and Scorpio with the non-crde engine should be of same rate as the Sumos.

And Sumo doesnt 'pitch' like a Scorpio

14th January 2009, 00:51	#631
amitk26 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,089 Thanked: 715 Times	Well to me this looks like a flower horn cichlid. For those who are not in to the hobby of aquariums here is a picture. Flowerhorn Cichlid, Hua Luo Han, Hybrid Apart from looks there is another similarity flower horns do not exist in nature and a man made hybrid of various cichlids , And so is Xylo a badly created contraption picking design ideas from various places.
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14th January 2009, 01:23	#632
gshanky BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coimbatore / Bangalore / New York Posts: 717 Thanked: 13 Times	Enough! talking about the pictures. Lets have some test drive reports
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14th January 2009, 01:57	#633
vinaydas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,399 Thanked: 148 Times	parm you mean scorpio left the safari way behind other than the sumo.. i think before it was pitched against the sumo but now its directly pitched against the safari
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14th January 2009, 02:22	#634
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,224 Thanked: 93 Times	Looking at it side on the rear quarter looks a bit bloated. Why waste all that money designing a new model when they could have bought the plans for an obselete model from one of the auto majors. There is nothing that makes you say WOW I must get one of those (apart from the the price of the base model).
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14th January 2009, 08:17	#637
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,729 Times View My Garage	Which engine is this? Is it the one from the Bolero Crde. So looks like now they have 3 Common Rail engines. 2.6, 2.2 and 2.5
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14th January 2009, 08:39	#638
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,982 Thanked: 2,930 Times	I saw the car and interiors in at the official website. This car does have a punch, but the fact that saloons will be hit is something I cannot digest. The car is nice and interiors are much better than Scorpio. Also space is nice as compared to Scorpio. Except the front end design that could have been more detailed to make it look classy to the rear end that is straight away lifted from a minivan, the car is well proportioned. I think the segment it will be most successful is the taxi market, just like qualis. Only the high end versions will be taken away by large families. Here the competition from Innova will be intense. However, I am sure Tavera will be hit as already the image of Mahindra is good for these UV vehicles, add to that a good product. Powertrain performance remains to be seen. I expect it to be as good as Innova as much better performane than Tavera. But sedans will not be scared of this car. That is not possible that Xylo will mark end of sedans.
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14th January 2009, 09:03	#639
kochicar BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 40 Thanked: 9 Times	From the xylo website: Safety Tubeless tyres intellipark reverse assist (useless while cruising) Engine immobilizer (Transponder based) (useless while cruising) Are they keeping any tubeless tyre in the dash/steering wheel instead of an airbag?? PS: only pun intended.
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14th January 2009, 09:15	#641
khan_sultan Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Noida/Bangalore Posts: 4,925 Thanked: 5,853 Times View My Garage	In the name of all that is holy, what is this??? what were mahindra folks smoking while designing this? I think that all the Maruti Zen Stylo team was hired by Mahindra folks to work on this. It may be a success or a hit with taxi segment etc etc.. but there is no denying the fact that it looks hideous at best -- visually. School children could make a vehicle look better than what folks at Mahindra have done. Cheers,
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14th January 2009, 09:16	#642
kiren BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 454 Thanked: 33 Times	The more I look at XYLO I find it not as bad as I initially felt. Most probably I expected more out of M&M. The side elevation is quite ok. Alloys are great. Colours I Liked. What I didnt like is the grill. I think this car should do ok incase it perforrms well. Now all depends on this new engine (M eagle)
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