Will there be a 2009 JDM Civic soon ??? EDIT - Its here Now

oss · 13th August 2009, 16:36

@Sidindica: Any info on the extra features getting added in V-MT ?

shivmarwaha · 15th August 2009, 18:56

Hi friends,
a couple of days back i spotted new civic on greater noida expressway. will post the picture tommorrow

mkc15 · 16th August 2009, 14:28

IMO the GC of current Civic is quite sufficient (infact its higher[170mm] than most cars; except altis which gets 6mm more!). FWIU, GC as such is not at all an issue with Civic; its only the suspension being soft; this has been grossly mistaken. The current rear suspension is so soft that the 170mm shrinks down quite easily; also the wheelbase is full 100mm longer than corolla and most other cars in the segment. A bump can easily get in-between front and rear wheels and scrape the belly; with shorter wheelbase, either the front or the rear would be on the bump and the body stays a bit higher from the ground.

I agree with Immortalz; IMO, they just needed to stiffen the suspension (springs/dampers); with this the handling would still improve but the ride at low-speed would suffer.

sidindica · 16th August 2009, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

New Civic coming end september.

3 varients- S M/T, V M/T and V A/T
all models gain stereo mounted audio controls
improved spring and damper rates in rear suspension
new 5 spoke alloy wheel design
new grill, front bumper with oval fog lights (fog lights only in V)
new hexagonal red parking taillight glass combination
V A/T gains cruise control
hybrid not in pipeline currently
new shades

update and correction

all 3 models gain cruise control and USB port
6 cd changer is deleted, only single cd player
audio controls will remain only on the rear armrest, not on steering.
rest exterior changes as mentioned.

Car is getting launched on 16th september.

mkc15 · 16th August 2009, 16:21

Oh man, this is disappointing. Is Honda trying to keep the price same, by any chance? If yes, a single CD player with USB port is acceptable; but steering mounted audio controls is a cheap trick, I think. Is cruise-control an expensive kit ? I guess not, as I believe its mainly a software feature.

jesal · 16th August 2009, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

update and correction

all 3 models gain cruise control and USB port
6 cd changer is deleted, only single cd player
audio controls will remain only on the rear armrest, not on steering.
rest exterior changes as mentioned.

Car is getting launched on 16th september.

are you sure about this right ? why no steering controls how cheap even their base car has that. i guess ill wait till september. from today one month exact.

amit · 16th August 2009, 16:59

Honda will give cruise control but not steering mounted controls? That's weird!

Axe77 · 16th August 2009, 18:32

@jesal: Sidindica's "update and correction" is accurate as per my knowledge as well.
I think you should expect a price increase of about 50,000. In addition, the existing discounts (of insurance free) will probably be discontinued with the new model, making the immediate price differential in real terms close to Rs. 1 lakh.

Personally, I would have been happier with steering controls for music system than cruise control as a feature.

This is exactly the reason why picking up the outgoing model could make sense for people currently in the market for a civic.

mkc15 · 16th August 2009, 21:50

@sid/@axe
Isn't it(steering-mounted audio controls) available on the top end also ? (V A/T); not that this can be a deal breaker; just curious to know. Any changes in the service schedule ?

Axe77 · 17th August 2009, 00:32

AFAIK, no steering controls for the music system on any variant (this is all secondary information of course).

I dont recollect if this was written before but the alloys are slightly different (for the better!).

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkc15

@sid/@axe
Isn't it(steering-mounted audio controls) available on the top end also ? (V A/T); not that this can be a deal breaker; just curious to know. Any changes in the service schedule ?

appuchan · 17th August 2009, 12:11

Not sure why they are not including steering controls as it is present in all of their 2009 models abroad. Also I dont think it makes much sense to have cruise control on manual transmission models, especially in our roads where we need to brake or change the gear frequently.

appuchan · 17th August 2009, 12:26

mkc15 · 18th August 2009, 23:03

Spoke to one of the dealers in B'lore today. He said he has just 1 V A/T in stock (color to be confirmed). He is offering only 30K discount. How much are other dealers offering currently (in B'lore and other cities); just to get an idea for negotiating further if I fully decide.

buz · 1st September 2009, 16:08

People,

Have followed this thread very very closely as I am dabbling between options on buying a new car - Civic AT, Altis AT or the City AT (if the ride quality is similar to the Civic, why not save a little money). The news of a new Civic on the anvil has definitely charged me on. We are into September now. Any news on the launch date? Could it be a Diwali launch as the newspapers are suggesting (new car variants expected then)?

mkc15 · 2nd September 2009, 11:06

@buz, CIVIC is going to be launched on Sept 8th (as per T-BHP and Deccan Herald); not sure about City. Check out http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...new-sense.html.

13th August 2009, 16:36	#121
oss BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 683 Thanked: 6 Times	@Sidindica: Any info on the extra features getting added in V-MT ?
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15th August 2009, 18:56	#122
shivmarwaha BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new delhi Posts: 163 Thanked: 56 Times	spotted new civic Hi friends, a couple of days back i spotted new civic on greater noida expressway. will post the picture tommorrow
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16th August 2009, 14:28	#123
mkc15 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 315 Thanked: 89 Times	IMO the GC of current Civic is quite sufficient (infact its higher[170mm] than most cars; except altis which gets 6mm more!). FWIU, GC as such is not at all an issue with Civic; its only the suspension being soft; this has been grossly mistaken. The current rear suspension is so soft that the 170mm shrinks down quite easily; also the wheelbase is full 100mm longer than corolla and most other cars in the segment. A bump can easily get in-between front and rear wheels and scrape the belly; with shorter wheelbase, either the front or the rear would be on the bump and the body stays a bit higher from the ground. I agree with Immortalz; IMO, they just needed to stiffen the suspension (springs/dampers); with this the handling would still improve but the ride at low-speed would suffer.
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16th August 2009, 16:21	#125
mkc15 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 315 Thanked: 89 Times	Oh man, this is disappointing. Is Honda trying to keep the price same, by any chance? If yes, a single CD player with USB port is acceptable; but steering mounted audio controls is a cheap trick, I think. Is cruise-control an expensive kit ? I guess not, as I believe its mainly a software feature.
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amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 449 Times	Honda will give cruise control but not steering mounted controls? That's weird!
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16th August 2009, 18:32	#128
Axe77 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,919 Thanked: 20,658 Times	@jesal: Sidindica's "update and correction" is accurate as per my knowledge as well. I think you should expect a price increase of about 50,000. In addition, the existing discounts (of insurance free) will probably be discontinued with the new model, making the immediate price differential in real terms close to Rs. 1 lakh. Personally, I would have been happier with steering controls for music system than cruise control as a feature. This is exactly the reason why picking up the outgoing model could make sense for people currently in the market for a civic.
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mkc15 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 315 Thanked: 89 Times	@sid/@axe Isn't it(steering-mounted audio controls) available on the top end also ? (V A/T); not that this can be a deal breaker; just curious to know. Any changes in the service schedule ?
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17th August 2009, 12:11	#131
appuchan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangy Posts: 642 Thanked: 27 Times	Not sure why they are not including steering controls as it is present in all of their 2009 models abroad. Also I dont think it makes much sense to have cruise control on manual transmission models, especially in our roads where we need to brake or change the gear frequently.
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appuchan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangy Posts: 642 Thanked: 27 Times	Some pics from Honda Thailand site Attached Thumbnails
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18th August 2009, 23:03	#133
mkc15 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 315 Thanked: 89 Times	Spoke to one of the dealers in B'lore today. He said he has just 1 V A/T in stock (color to be confirmed). He is offering only 30K discount. How much are other dealers offering currently (in B'lore and other cities); just to get an idea for negotiating further if I fully decide.
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1st September 2009, 16:08	#134
buz BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 97 Thanked: 18 Times	Civic Coralla et al People, Have followed this thread very very closely as I am dabbling between options on buying a new car - Civic AT, Altis AT or the City AT (if the ride quality is similar to the Civic, why not save a little money). The news of a new Civic on the anvil has definitely charged me on. We are into September now. Any news on the launch date? Could it be a Diwali launch as the newspapers are suggesting (new car variants expected then)? Last edited by buz : 1st September 2009 at 16:18.
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2nd September 2009, 11:06	#135
mkc15 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 315 Thanked: 89 Times	@buz, CIVIC is going to be launched on Sept 8th (as per T-BHP and Deccan Herald); not sure about City. Check out http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...new-sense.html.
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