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Size of the vehicle would not be a fit eligibility. It has to be on the basis of every litre of diesel used IMO to completely compensate against the amount of fuel these diesel vehicles use. Last edited by Fordmanchau : 26th April 2011 at 15:03. | |||||
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| ![]() Hi There was a article in times of india regarding exporting diesel to pakistan from india. I am not against the idea, as i strongly believe the people should not suffer for the ideas of a few extremists. But, why the hell is the government requesting to supply pakistan while we are bleeding out of our purses to get our tank full. The reporter further confirms the request is denied as pakistan does not want to rely on india for its energy requirements which will tighten the noose around its neck. Whatever the political motivation but the governement should stop bleeding the people to carry out their agenda. Cheers |
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If it is based on the size of the vehicle the GOI can fix certain amount of money based on size and other parameters. Got the point ? | |
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![]() Differential prizing is a sure shot way to malpractice. | |
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| ![]() When i Bought my car Petrol was 52 and diesel was around 36-38. I did all calculations and decided ROI for Petrol was better. I bought a Ford Fiesta Petrol for 7 lacs while diesel costed 8.2 lacs. Now all my calculations havce gone for a toss. Driving a diesel I could have broken even in 2-3 years as opposed to 5-6 years. All new car buyers please rethink on the Diesel vs Petrol debate. Diesel if the winner all the way to the bank. |
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![]() But then the truck driver would not do this for free and everybody would not have a truck driver as friend. Agree, it will lead to malpractice. Quote:
Let's assume a hypothetical situation here for arriving at a approximate solution. Average Life of Diesel engine : 150,000km(assumed, @ 15k kms for 10 years) Average Fuel Efficiency : 15kmpl (assumed) Incremental Cost of diesel = Rs. 20 per litre.(65-45=20,at par with Petrol) Assuming the above situation if govt. charges a one time levy, any person buying a diesel would end paying Rs. 2 Lakhs extra on the car cost. While this is not practical and will surely end up killing diesel car market but then anything less would be gross under recovery. Like we petrol car owner's who pay less initially and then pay the market price for fuel, the same thing should be applied to diesel car buyers. Government would have think about ways to plug the holes in the system to atleast reduce instances of malpractices. Last edited by Fordmanchau : 26th April 2011 at 15:56. | ||
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Besides, your forgetting that diesel engines buyers always pay 1+ Lakh premium rupees, so why isnt that accounted for in difference? There will always be a huge difference between Diesel and Petrol prices in our country as we all know our basic commodities are transported using diesel run vehicles. Any hike to them will have a cascading affect on almost every product pricing including basic edible commodities. Finally, if the petrol pricing is pinching, the simplest and wisest decision would be to shift to a diesel car instead of levying taxes to "individual diesel car" owners which even in wildest imagination cannot be implemented in real sense. ![]() Btw, I own both a diesel and petrol car! | ||
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I just meant that any diesel passenger car,be it of Rs, 5 lakhs, 15lakhs or even 1 crore and above and not falling under the category of vehicles eligibile for subsidy should pay the market price for the fuel. I just used "15 lakh" as a generic example. Quote:
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BANNED | ![]() Now that carbon trading is coming into picture,and devloping countries will have to shell out big chunk of money to reduce/manage there carbon footprints, should petrol cars and bikes be charged extra for higher green house emmissions? Petrol engines have 60-70% service life of that of a mordern diesel engine,diesel motors generally last longer. Should petrol cars be taxed for creating more national waste and scrap. I know metal scrap is recycled,but certainly not without Consuming energy! |
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Sir, we at Bangalore are already paying 19% Road tax. And Diesel cars are less polluting than Petrol cars and will always give better FE, so why punish Diesel car owners? |
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| ![]() The diesel subsidy will become unmanageable in the near future. Just wait till the diesel nanos and similar cars hit the road. Diesel cars will outnumber petrol ones so much it will become impossible to cross subsidize them by hiking petrol rates. Just think - when you fill your Hero Honda at the bunk, you are subsidizing the fuel of your big boss who may be filling diesel for his Merc in the same bunk right next to you! @asdon It is not a question of punishing the diesel car owners, but that of not pampering them anymore! Last edited by Gansan : 26th April 2011 at 17:12. |
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BANNED | ![]() What sort of subsidy is that? Almost 50% tax on every litre of petrol & diesel ,and then they tell common man that they are getting subsidy on fuel. I think its high time govt stops funding common wealth scams from poor man's pockets. It has been 60 years that govts have overhauled debts and scams, from fuel tax. If state owned oil firms are loosing money,ask them to be more efficient in there process and cut there useless spendings of sponsring cricket tournaments and likes. Reduce central excise,and state excise and other funny taxes to overhaul underrecovery. Its not funny anymore to watch ceo s and petroleum minister hopping on a chopper ride to watch cricket matches. How does a company loosing 16-20rs on every liter afford such fanfare for its officials? A country like brazil runs 25% of its vehicles On fuel made from sugarcane! What happned to our own jetropha bio diesel projects and other altermatives? What is the govt's future policy or are they waiting for middle east like unrest |
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| ![]() Everytime I stop at a petrol station for fuel I feel scammed by the government looking at the diesel prices right beside. There is a good 20+ rupee difference between the price of the two and what is saddening is it is people with fat pay cheques filling subsidised fuel in their gas guzzlers, while I'm punished both at the pump and in the form of taxes (for subsidising diesel) for buying one of the smallest cars available on road. I fail to understand why decontrolling diesel is such a problem. The market has adjusted to high petrol prices and will also adjust to higher diesel prices. I'm extremely pissed off with the current government for this unequal treatment. I should not be subsidising my boss's ride. |
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| ![]() As simple as this till the time the Transport Fleet that is the Trucks are running on Diesel theres no way that the diesel prices will be Deregulated the IMpact on Inflation would be substaintial and no Govt will Jeopardize doing so in the near future, so what one can do is stop cribbing and fill petrol in their cars or more wisely buy a diesel car by spending some more if the daily running warrants so!! |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() come on guys. I see many posts saying about bosses having merc and BMWs, and common man sponsoring him through subsidy. Everyone had choice. No one forced you guys to go for petrol. Then why say such statements? I agree. Its a huge fault on the govt. part. They have actually encouraged and been encouraging the buyers to buy Diesel cars. But, as we all know, nothing changes in a day. Probably, supreme court should again come up with solid voice asking Govt. to rethink this policy. And ask them to submit the progess report of various alternate fuel projects. Until then nothing will move. |
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