SX4 Diesel - Is it on the cards? Update: Now launched

avishar · 12th October 2010, 01:22

Interestingly the SX4 is also sold as Fiat Sedici!Talk about cross branding.

sureshkishore · 29th November 2010, 21:42

Info from MSIL dealer is that the SX4 Diesel will carry the VGT 1.3 Multijet Mill.

Apparently MS doesnt want the Diesel to be Rubber Burning monster.
Driven the Linea Diesel. Wasnt too happy about the performance. Felt even the Dzire Zdi a more eager performer. May be it is the drivability.

Would have loved the Verna's 100 BHP CRDI engine in the SX4.

B.T.W despite having a great engine the Verna is not selling much. Wonder why?

yogiii · 29th November 2010, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by sureshkishore

Info from MSIL dealer is that the SX4 Diesel will carry the VGT 1.3 Multijet Mill.

Apparently MS doesnt want the Diesel to be Rubber Burning monster.
Driven the Linea Diesel. Wasnt too happy about the performance. Felt even the Dzire Zdi a more eager performer. May be it is the drivability.

Would have loved the Verna's 100 BHP CRDI engine in the SX4.

B.T.W despite having a great engine the Verna is not selling much. Wonder why?

Yes, the SX4 Diesel is coming very soon with the 1.3 Multijet.

And for your OT question the way the Verna looks HIDEOUS

DieselFan · 30th November 2010, 09:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by sureshkishore

Info from MSIL dealer is that the SX4 Diesel will carry the VGT 1.3 Multijet Mill.

Apparently MS doesnt want the Diesel to be Rubber Burning monster.
Driven the Linea Diesel. Wasnt too happy about the performance. Felt even the Dzire Zdi a more eager performer. May be it is the drivability.

Would have loved the Verna's 100 BHP CRDI engine in the SX4. ing

B.T.W despite having a great engine the Verna is not selling much. Wonder why?

MS has matched Swift transmission to DDIS engine better than Punto or linea. Going by this history IMO the SX4 diesel will be a better car to drive than Linea.

MAS · 30th November 2010, 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by sureshkishore

Info from MSIL dealer is that the SX4 Diesel will carry the VGT 1.3 Multijet Mill.

Apparently MS doesnt want the Diesel to be Rubber Burning monster.
Driven the Linea Diesel. Wasnt too happy about the performance. Felt even the Dzire Zdi a more eager performer. May be it is the drivability.

Would have loved the Verna's 100 BHP CRDI engine in the SX4.

B.T.W despite having a great engine the Verna is not selling much. Wonder why?

Wow. Is the news confirmed? Any probable date of launch?

I like the looks of the SX4 and always wondered why MS did not offer a diesel heart.

Verna has a great engine and that's it. It looks bad, handling is poor and ride is really bad.

nurni76 · 30th November 2010, 14:13

Saw this article on ET. Maruti seems to be working on a Diesel for SX4. Is this the same 1.3 VGT of Linea or is there something else?

Maruti Suzuki working on diesel engine for mid-size sedan - The Economic Times

fuel_addict · 30th November 2010, 14:26

So it looks like the National Diesel engine (1.3L MJD) that would make its way into the SX4. I am not too happy to hear that. MS is plonking the same engine in almost every car. Be it the 1.2L K series petrol in Swift/Ritz or the 1L K series in the Alto/A-Star/Wagon R. Why isn't MS getting imaginative and stopping this platform sharing strategy? At this rate, even the Kizashi should have the same SX4 engine!

Lets hope the diesel engine that Maruti engineers are 'developing' is not the same 1.3 MJD.

With Hyundai launching VVT engine in the i10, why can't MS do the same for the Swift/Ritz? They do sell the VVT engine in other markets.

nurni76 · 30th November 2010, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuel_addict

So it looks like the National Diesel engine (1.3L MJD) that would make its way into the SX4. I am not too happy to hear that. MS is plonking the same engine in almost every car. Be it the 1.2L K series petrol in Swift/Ritz or the 1L K series in the Alto/A-Star/Wagon R. Why isn't MS getting imaginative and stopping this platform sharing strategy? At this rate, even the Kizashi should have the same SX4 engine!

Lets hope the diesel engine that Maruti engineers are 'developing' is not the same 1.3 MJD.

With Hyundai launching VVT engine in the i10, why can't MS do the same for the Swift/Ritz? They do sell the VVT engine in other markets.

Actually there is no clear mention of the Fiat engine in the article. Could there a possibility of the Vento Diesel for SX4? That's one heck of an engine for the SX4.

sidindica · 30th November 2010, 14:45

SX4 DDiS

1.3 DDIS with 90 hp.
Trial runs going on around gurgaon.
Car coming next Feb-march.

Kizashi

Coming Jan'11.

New Swift

Coming Q2 2011.

New Dzire

Coming Fall 2012.

fuel_addict · 30th November 2010, 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

SX4 DDiS

1.3 DDIS with 90 hp.
Trial runs going on around gurgaon.
Car coming next Feb-march.

Kizashi

Coming Jan'11.

New Swift

Coming Q2 2011.

New Dzire

Coming Fall 2012.

1.3 DDIS 90 HP sounds like the Linea VGT engine. So Maruti will continue to go with Fiat engines. With VW acquiring a stake in Suzuki, it would be nice to see the 1.6L TDi engine of the Vento in the SX4.

opendro · 30th November 2010, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselFan

MS has matched Swift transmission to DDIS engine better than Punto or linea. Going by this history IMO the SX4 diesel will be a better car to drive than Linea.

Obviously, SX4 with a weight lighter than even Punto or i20 will do much better than a 90 bhp Punto/Linea or i20 or Octavia or Altis. But this might dent DZire sales though.

adimicra · 30th November 2010, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by opendro

Obviously, SX4 with a weight lighter than even Punto or i20 will do much better than a 90 bhp Punto/Linea or i20 or Octavia or Altis. But this might dent DZire sales though.

Are you kidding?
I20 petrol (Asta) = 1065 kg
Punto 1.4 Pterol = 1115 kg
Sx4 ZXi = 1200 kg

nkrishnap · 30th November 2010, 15:07

Earlier it is believed that Maruti Suzuki did not have the license to produce the VGT versions of the 1.3 Multijet. Wonder how would they be able to start manufacturing this engine now.

Are there any changes in the licensing agreement?

StarrySky · 30th November 2010, 15:14

Is the 1.3 MJD VGT engine making its way to the SX4 an indication that Fiat is planning to move to bigger diesel engines for the Linea? One can always hope...

pawan_pullarwar · 30th November 2010, 15:14

Is it the same SX4 or the hatchback version ? Suzuki sells good number of SX4 hatchback in Germany, I like the looks of hatchback more over the sedan version.

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avishar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: kolkata/bangalore,india Posts: 2,901 Thanked: 4,143 Times	Interestingly the SX4 is also sold as Fiat Sedici!Talk about cross branding.
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sureshkishore BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: trivandrum Posts: 478 Thanked: 290 Times	Info from MSIL dealer is that the SX4 Diesel will carry the VGT 1.3 Multijet Mill. Apparently MS doesnt want the Diesel to be Rubber Burning monster. Driven the Linea Diesel. Wasnt too happy about the performance. Felt even the Dzire Zdi a more eager performer. May be it is the drivability. Would have loved the Verna's 100 BHP CRDI engine in the SX4. B.T.W despite having a great engine the Verna is not selling much. Wonder why?
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30th November 2010, 14:13	#291
nurni76 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BLR/SEATTLE Posts: 907 Thanked: 360 Times View My Garage	Saw this article on ET. Maruti seems to be working on a Diesel for SX4. Is this the same 1.3 VGT of Linea or is there something else? Maruti Suzuki working on diesel engine for mid-size sedan - The Economic Times
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30th November 2010, 14:26	#292
fuel_addict BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 692 Thanked: 121 Times	So it looks like the National Diesel engine (1.3L MJD) that would make its way into the SX4. I am not too happy to hear that. MS is plonking the same engine in almost every car. Be it the 1.2L K series petrol in Swift/Ritz or the 1L K series in the Alto/A-Star/Wagon R. Why isn't MS getting imaginative and stopping this platform sharing strategy? At this rate, even the Kizashi should have the same SX4 engine! Lets hope the diesel engine that Maruti engineers are 'developing' is not the same 1.3 MJD. With Hyundai launching VVT engine in the i10, why can't MS do the same for the Swift/Ritz? They do sell the VVT engine in other markets. Last edited by fuel_addict : 30th November 2010 at 14:29.
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30th November 2010, 14:45	#294
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,890 Thanked: 8,101 Times	SX4 DDiS 1.3 DDIS with 90 hp. Trial runs going on around gurgaon. Car coming next Feb-march. Kizashi Coming Jan'11. New Swift Coming Q2 2011. New Dzire Coming Fall 2012.
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30th November 2010, 15:07	#298
nkrishnap Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,983 Thanked: 7,405 Times View My Garage	Earlier it is believed that Maruti Suzuki did not have the license to produce the VGT versions of the 1.3 Multijet. Wonder how would they be able to start manufacturing this engine now. Are there any changes in the licensing agreement?
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30th November 2010, 15:14	#299
StarrySky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: EU - Nordic Posts: 2,052 Thanked: 3,043 Times	Is the 1.3 MJD VGT engine making its way to the SX4 an indication that Fiat is planning to move to bigger diesel engines for the Linea? One can always hope...
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pawan_pullarwar BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pune - Now in Munich, Germany Posts: 778 Thanked: 129 Times	Is it the same SX4 or the hatchback version ? Suzuki sells good number of SX4 hatchback in Germany, I like the looks of hatchback more over the sedan version.
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