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Originally Posted by abhi1309
Maruti will never phase out any vehicle so soon even if they sell 3 units of it a month. Remember Baleno.
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Mitsubishi Lancer, Hyundai Accent and Suzuki Baleno had 2/5 stars in Euro NCAP crash test. Both, the Lancer and Accent had airbags and Baleno did not have airbags, still it scored 2 stars. So we can now assume, that their crash worthiness was equal. Baleno had better fuel efficinecy, performance, handling, ride quality, space and A/C than Accent and was more than a match for Lancer. And Baleno had just started doing reasonable as compared to its earlier sales performance and it was replaced by SX4.
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Originally Posted by abhi1309
present WagonR (almost a decade old) and brought back from the grave Estilo (almost 2 decades old), Esteem (3 decades old Geo Metro of USA).
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The Zen Estilo is based on Wagon R sold in India and in fact Indian Alto, Indian Estilo and Indian Wagon R share the same basic platform. Estilo in any case is not more than a decade old. Zen Estilo was badge engineered and sold as Nissan Moco in Japan and sales were reported somewhat higher than expected.
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Originally Posted by abhi1309
The only good model of Suzuki has been the Swift which has met with amazing success, but after driving the Indica Vista last week on a test drive, I can safely say Maruti is worse than even Tata in quality. Infact, Tata has just upped the ante with excellent Fiat engineering into it which makes it great. I might actually strongly consider buying an Indica Vista in the future as an additional vehicle (over a Hyundai) but never a Maruti after I saw the plastic quality in my friends Swift LDi dashboard and heard the rattles. Maruti will soon be just a cheap value for money brand for the desi "mileage kitna hai" janta and unfortunately there are scores of them.
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What is Euro NCAP score of Indica Vista ? Swift has 4/5, with standard six airbags. Yes, we dont have airbags in the same quantity, and I feel that the interior finishing and build quality is not good, but the chassis is not compromised one. And also the reason behind Swift's success is Maurti's fantastic After Sales And Service ( A.S & S. ) which Tata is not able to provide.
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Originally Posted by amit From his ( pulsar778 ) excel sheet, SX4 sales from Jan to Aug are 2932, 1953, 1877, 1541, 1912, 1681, 1048 and 2292 units. As expected, NHC is routing SX4 month after month by a HUGE margin. SX4 sales are quite volatile but the car seems to be holding onto an average of about 1700-2000 units/month. Not bad, I say. |
Agree with you. With just a petrol motor, these sales figures are quite good. As compared to the sales of Baleno, which were struck at just less than 1000 ( or even less ) for ever, these figures are good. Here I would like to add that Verna is able to survive and clock sales because of its diesel motor, TATA is alive in the market because of its diesel motors and Ford is again has advantage of diesel motor. Its only Honda and Suzuki in this segment that are doing great and good figures respectively with just pertol motors.
SX4, IMO, is a great car that is free of rattles like Swift has to face. The motor does incredible job of pushing the 1200kg body and feels much more than 102 bhp in the mid range. Its quite fast on highway, doing good speeds and maintaining them because of midrange ( agreed, above 160, it doesnt feel the same acceleration that it has in 100-160 range ), no doubt helped by the suspension and ground clearence.
Again, IMO, the sales have gone down only because of the brand " Maruti " as people associate Maruti with Maruti 800 and now upto some extent Swift. But this has given serious limitations to what Suzuki can do. Despite the fact that its product is much better than the G2HC ( any euro NCAP ratings available ? We had a seperate thread for its build quality ) in many areas, they are not able to maintain the lead. Suzuki needs another brand with seperate dealer and service network for its cars in the 6 lakh+ segment to succeed. Image is ruining the sales. However, for now Suzuki has to just plonk in a diesel from Swift with Variable Geometry Turbocharger to again bring the sales up.