Fiat India - Management Resigning!

islero · 3rd April 2005, 08:18

oh well,........about time. If they cant do it properly, then they shouldnt waste time and money doing it.

shravan316 · 3rd April 2005, 08:39

Great cars but, poor management...... thats the story with Fiat. With the kind of management they've shown in a decade...... they didn't deserve to stay any longer. I guess, like many other BHPians, I'll surely miss the Palios and the Petras.

hemlock · 3rd April 2005, 09:36

Bad news , really bad news.
I was on the verge of buyng a petra, now i think i'll wait a while. somehow , i fell in love with the petra and the formula red Palio sport .

Samurai · 3rd April 2005, 19:51

Although I had decided on buying a Petra, I think now I'll hold on until the web site come up. In this day and age if a car company doesn't understand the importance of having a web site, how clueless is this company?

When I am ready to buy if the website is not up, I am looking elsewhere.

Stratos · 3rd April 2005, 21:05

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Originally Posted by Samurai

When I am ready to buy if the website is not up, I am looking elsewhere.

Why website dude...just check out other cars now...forget the website

iceman91 · 3rd April 2005, 22:05

yeah...pretty soon you wont be seeing cars on the road no more....and esp when you pass by a FIAT showroom and see the boards being pulled down...!!!

they are closing shop

Samurai · 3rd April 2005, 23:48

Right after I made my comment about Fiat website, I was informed that I can go ahead with my car purchase this month right after filing my tax returns. I'll discuss my new dilemma in a new thread.

sandeepdeshmukh · 4th April 2005, 08:39

Looks like GTO is at his best again. Reading too much out of Fiat...too early.

He promptly provided the news on mktg,dealer devt people leaving Fiat, but conveniently ignored the earlier article of Citigroup,ICICI venture or Hinduja's getting into the marketing, dealership & service network of Fiat India. If this happens -

a) Fiat will only limit itself to manufacture cars in India
b) New venture to take care of dealership,marketing and service

With this the resignations (read sacking) looks logical, ain't it?

GTO · 4th April 2005, 10:19

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Looks like GTO is at his best again. Reading too much out of Fiat...too early.

This blind faith is cracking me up! If theres anything, we have been reading too little too late. And for those who insist on missing the boat....

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He promptly provided the news on mktg,dealer devt people leaving Fiat, but conveniently ignored the earlier article of Citigroup,ICICI venture or Hinduja's getting into the marketing, dealership & service network of Fiat India. If this happens -

If this happens? If only new Mercedes' were as reliable as Toyotas. If only we had 6 lane freeways over Mumbai city. If only Speed93 cost 10 bucks to a liter.

What I have stated is facts and actual events that have transpired. The only defence I see is what "COULD" happen, and "IF's".

Its simply this ignorance that lets MNC's come to India and fleece the public. I mean, a company is doing nothing about having a defunct market image, a dead website, a dead sales network, pathetic sales and service experience and a <1% market share. And they still have a miniscule amount of supporters?

Maruti, Hyundai and Tata, despite being way ahead, are working harder! All of us love the Palio and Petra. But remember, there is a distinction between the Italian products and the Indian management.

GTO

P.S. : You have missed providing the article of Citigroup/ICICI too!

hasopi · 4th April 2005, 10:21

These so called top executives were doing nothing..its better they are gone..Probably they are thrown out!! its good any way..let some young guys with basic sense come in.

I think, FIAT Spa wants all non performing execs to be out of FIAT India, before they chart out new revival strategy..with Hinduja or ICICI venture?

Who knows these execs were taking money from competitors for not being aggressive..If they would have been aggressive, Palio will sell more & its competitors may suffer!!

GTO..do you have some problem if FIAT revives?

GTO · 4th April 2005, 10:26

Hasopi,

I would be only too happy to see that situation because I love their cars.

But I DO have a problem with the approach that Fiat has had yet.

GTO

anoops · 4th April 2005, 10:39

reading most of the posts here gives me the impression that most of you are happy to see FIAT is going!!...what the heck are you guys gloating about??...driving your silly korian cars...sorry about that i own a palio and i love this car!

Rtech · 4th April 2005, 10:51

I guess it's only natural for owners to stick up for their purchases! But Anoop, nobody here is criticising the product, only it's management.

BTW, I stick by my statement in the other thread, I still don't feel FIAT will pull out of India.

anoops · 4th April 2005, 11:05

yep rtech, we are hoping for the best...a good car like this does not deserve this shoddy treatment by both the management and their crappy dealers.

GTO · 4th April 2005, 11:23

Anoops,

Exactly my point : The products do not deserve the treatment they have received from their parents! Fiat has been in India for close to a decade now, and they have done a fantastic job of botching everything up : From the marketing to service, from managing dealerships to their image.

What excatly are Fiat doing to improve their situation? Introducing so called help lines which are either not answered or have unknowledgeable staff? I upgraded Team-BHP in 3 weeks from being off-line. We are now in the 3rd month and yet have no Fiat website. It just indicates how pro-active Fiat India is about their operations...I mean, it is the online face of the company and how much they really care!

GTO

3rd April 2005, 08:18	#16
islero Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,574 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	oh well,........about time. If they cant do it properly, then they shouldnt waste time and money doing it.
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3rd April 2005, 08:39	#17
shravan316 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,029 Thanked: 9 Times	Great cars but, poor management...... thats the story with Fiat. With the kind of management they've shown in a decade...... they didn't deserve to stay any longer. I guess, like many other BHPians, I'll surely miss the Palios and the Petras.
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3rd April 2005, 09:36	#18
hemlock BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 78 Thanked: 15 Times	Bad news , really bad news. I was on the verge of buyng a petra, now i think i'll wait a while. somehow , i fell in love with the petra and the formula red Palio sport .
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3rd April 2005, 19:51	#19
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,813 Thanked: 45,435 Times View My Garage	Although I had decided on buying a Petra, I think now I'll hold on until the web site come up. In this day and age if a car company doesn't understand the importance of having a web site, how clueless is this company? When I am ready to buy if the website is not up, I am looking elsewhere.
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3rd April 2005, 22:05	#21
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	yeah...pretty soon you wont be seeing cars on the road no more....and esp when you pass by a FIAT showroom and see the boards being pulled down...!!! they are closing shop
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3rd April 2005, 23:48	#22
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,813 Thanked: 45,435 Times View My Garage	Right after I made my comment about Fiat website, I was informed that I can go ahead with my car purchase this month right after filing my tax returns. I'll discuss my new dilemma in a new thread.
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4th April 2005, 08:39	#23
sandeepdeshmukh Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 18 Thanked: 0 Times	Looks like GTO is at his best again. Reading too much out of Fiat...too early. He promptly provided the news on mktg,dealer devt people leaving Fiat, but conveniently ignored the earlier article of Citigroup,ICICI venture or Hinduja's getting into the marketing, dealership & service network of Fiat India. If this happens - a) Fiat will only limit itself to manufacture cars in India b) New venture to take care of dealership,marketing and service With this the resignations (read sacking) looks logical, ain't it?
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4th April 2005, 10:21	#25
hasopi BANNED Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 177 Thanked: 0 Times	These so called top executives were doing nothing..its better they are gone..Probably they are thrown out!! its good any way..let some young guys with basic sense come in. I think, FIAT Spa wants all non performing execs to be out of FIAT India, before they chart out new revival strategy..with Hinduja or ICICI venture? Who knows these execs were taking money from competitors for not being aggressive..If they would have been aggressive, Palio will sell more & its competitors may suffer!! GTO..do you have some problem if FIAT revives?
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4th April 2005, 10:26	#26
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,485 Thanked: 300,272 Times View My Garage	Hasopi, I would be only too happy to see that situation because I love their cars. But I DO have a problem with the approach that Fiat has had yet. GTO
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4th April 2005, 10:39	#27
anoops BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 183 Thanked: 3 Times	reading most of the posts here gives me the impression that most of you are happy to see FIAT is going!!...what the heck are you guys gloating about??...driving your silly korian cars...sorry about that i own a palio and i love this car!
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4th April 2005, 10:51	#28
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	I guess it's only natural for owners to stick up for their purchases! But Anoop, nobody here is criticising the product, only it's management. BTW, I stick by my statement in the other thread, I still don't feel FIAT will pull out of India.
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4th April 2005, 11:05	#29
anoops BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 183 Thanked: 3 Times	yep rtech, we are hoping for the best...a good car like this does not deserve this shoddy treatment by both the management and their crappy dealers.
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4th April 2005, 11:23	#30
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,485 Thanked: 300,272 Times View My Garage	Anoops, Exactly my point : The products do not deserve the treatment they have received from their parents! Fiat has been in India for close to a decade now, and they have done a fantastic job of botching everything up : From the marketing to service, from managing dealerships to their image. What excatly are Fiat doing to improve their situation? Introducing so called help lines which are either not answered or have unknowledgeable staff? I upgraded Team-BHP in 3 weeks from being off-line. We are now in the 3rd month and yet have no Fiat website. It just indicates how pro-active Fiat India is about their operations...I mean, it is the online face of the company and how much they really care! GTO
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