[Fountainheader]

Originally Posted by GTO

Could be a market for the 80 BHP i20 at a better price. It's gonna tank with the current price tag, I'm willing to bet on it. Expect Hyundais typical price corrections / discounts sooner rather than later. Plus, they have to make some room for the diesel too, wot?

Plus if they plan to launch the Avante or whatever, they need to adjust the pricing of the Verna too. Bring the top end CRDi to somewhere close to 8.5 OTR.

[GTO]

Exactly why I insist that they have royally botched up the pricing of the 1.2 liter i20.

[Technocrat]

Hyundai had setup their camp in our housing society this weekend. Got a chance to test drive the i20 & boy it has premium written all over it. The features & quality of plastics & overall quality are way ahead of its competition (read Swift). The MID is very easy to see & the steering control very easy & useful. The stereo is well integrated & sounds quite nice too & also has option for USB & aux in.

The drive with AC on(climate control) was nice the car didnt feel underpowered but yes it isnt as powerful as you would expect it to be at that price bracket.

The top end model has some real goodies including power foldable RVMs, climate control, remote on steering etc etc.

I really liked the car & if in few months time the discounts follow it would be very tempting.

Only thing that I still would want to check is the highway driveability of the car as the power is quite sufficient for city usage.

Btw some figures to ponder

Getz 1.3 Power - 82.9/5500 rpm
i20 1.2 Power - 80bhp/5200 rpm

Getz 1.3 Torque - 11.8/3200
i20 1.2 Torque - 11.4 / 4000

Yes weight would be an important parameter but as I see it it isnt too underpowered when compared to Getz.

Now if only Hyundai brings the prices down

[gunbir]

Originally Posted by Technocrat

Only thing that I still would want to check is the highway driveability of the car as the power is quite sufficient for city usage.

Agreed! I test drove one last week and was pleasantly surprised by how "eager" the car felt. Have owned a Getz 1.3 (87K/4years) and the i20 certainly feels equivalent if not a tad faster. I too, did not drive it beyond 80kmph so can't vouch for 100+ kmph performance.

A nice package overall. As of today, if I were thinking of buying a new petrol hatch I would not think twice about the i20.

[raul]

The diff between the 1.4 petrol and 1.25 petrol in UK is 500 pounds which is roughly 40000, so with the current ex-factory at 5.59 for the Asta, the 1.4 would be 6, taking on road to around 6.8 lakhs in Pune and around 7 lakhs in Bbay which is a tough sell imho.

I suspect what they will probably do is limit the 1.2 to the Magna and provide the 1.4 in Asta/Asta O at the same price, which may make the folks buying i20 now quite cross.

[Technocrat]

Gunbir did you notice the neat placement of Tweeter on front door

[reppy]

Originally Posted by raul

The diff between the 1.4 petrol and 1.25 petrol in UK is 500 pounds which is roughly 40000, so with the current ex-factory at 5.59 for the Asta, the 1.4 would be 6, taking on road to around 6.8 lakhs in Pune and around 7 lakhs in Bbay which is a tough sell imho.

I suspect what they will probably do is limit the 1.2 to the Magna and provide the 1.4 in Asta/Asta O at the same price, which may make the folks buying i20 now quite cross.

How I wish things were this simple! The additional excise amount (8%?) will easily take this car to 6.5 ex-showroom.

[joslicx]

Originally Posted by reppy

How I wish things were this simple! The additional excise amount (8%?) will easily take this car to 6.5 ex-showroom.

Or is it like Hyundai are already pocketing the (saved) 8% excise rather than passing on the benefit to us customers i mean current i20 price is equivalent to as if Hyundai has not passed on the extra 8% benefit because of 1.2 liter engine to the customer!

[vasoo]

Originally Posted by GTO

Could be a market for the 80 BHP i20 at a better price. It's gonna tank with the current price tag, I'm willing to bet on it. Expect Hyundais typical price corrections / discounts sooner rather than later. Plus, they have to make some room for the diesel too, wot?

I dont think Hyundai will be too worried about it's sales performance in India as about 80% of the i20 cars made here are exported. Consequently they had set a modest sales target of about 1500 cars per month in India, which I think will be achievable at least over the year.

They may never launch the i20 1.4 petrol here as the pricing may be completely off limits. 1.4 CRDI is a good possibility in another 3-6 months, but it may be a trimmed down (Delite/Magna?) version to keep the price comparable.

Originally Posted by gunbir

Agreed! I test drove one last week and was pleasantly surprised by how "eager" the car felt. Have owned a Getz 1.3 (87K/4years) and the i20 certainly feels equivalent if not a tad faster. I too, did not drive it beyond 80kmph so can't vouch for 100+ kmph performance.

A nice package overall. As of today, if I were thinking of buying a new petrol hatch I would not think twice about the i20.

One of my friends have booked this car last month and is expecting delivery this week. We had done extensive TD of this car before making the decision.

Regarding highway driveability, we felt it pretty good and it was quite stable at speeds of up to 130 kmph. Anything above that may not be very natural to this car given the engine and dimensions, even though its wide track and long wheelbase may keep it planted to the road in most cases.

[Technocrat]

With that chasis & body I dont have doubts about the Stability. On highway you need good torque & power to overtake easily & this is what needs to be seen i.e. how easily can the i20 overtake on highway also I expect it do around 140-150 on speedo. I am waiting for someone to post an ownership report

[raul]

Originally Posted by reppy

How I wish things were this simple! The additional excise amount (8%?) will easily take this car to 6.5 ex-showroom.

Oops, totally forget about the extra excise, but then this lands Hyundai in a soup with the 1.4 pricing, which only illustrates GTO point about the current pricing being problematic.

6.5 ex factory will take on road in Pune to around 7.3 and in bbay to 7.5 for the Asta. The car is definitely well built and feature rich but 7.5 lakhs on road in bbay is asking for trouble imho.

[rajtheindian]

Fifth Gar (UK) gave a quick overview on the i20, according to then in UK it is pitched against the Fabia and they rate i20 better than Fabia (not in all aspect, but overall)

they feel the 1.2 petrol is better than 1.4 diesel.

"A big positive is the i20's range of frugal and fun engines. The cheapest model to run will be the 1.4-litre diesel, which returns tax-busting 116g/km CO2 emissions and 64mpg fuel economy. But we'd recommend the little 1.2-litre petrol. It's only modestly powerful, but likes being revved and suits this nippy little car better than a diesel. "

I got it from the fifthgear site

[icar]

Hyundai remains tight lipped. “We will launch the i-20 diesel for the domestic market this year. But we are yet to finalise the engine size,” said Mr Arvind Saxena, Senior Vice-President, Sales and Marketing, Hyundai Motor India said.

Hyundai confirms launch of i20 diesel in 2009 | Vicky blog | Indian Automobile blog

[nithi]

Originally Posted by reppy

How I wish things were this simple! The additional excise amount (8%?) will easily take this car to 6.5 ex-showroom.

Below is the price of Getz from Welcome to Hyundai Motor :: Hyundai Getz Prime

Model Ex-Showroom Prices (Rs.)
GETZ GLE 1.1 379549
GETZ GVS 1.1 410286
GETZ GVS 1.3 429767
GETZ GLS 1.3 450421
GETZ GLX 1.3 483237

Getz GVS 1.1 attracts 4 % excise tax as it falls in the small car category defined by the govt, while Getz GVS 1.3 does not. So, there is price difference of Rs 19481 between Getz GVS 1.1 and Getz GVS 1.3 [same variant]. So, going by this logic Hyundai can still price i20 1.4 sensibly, if they want to.

[directinjection]

Originally Posted by nithi

Getz GVS 1.1 attracts 4 % excise tax as it falls in the small car category defined by the govt, while Getz GVS 1.3 does not.

Excise duty on small cars is 12% after the recent 4% deduction announced as part of the economic stimulus package. On bigger cars it is 20% now (earlier 24%).