Palio GTX back in production

GTO · 5th May 2005, 19:52

Where the Getz and the Swift are different is that they dont have cheaper-by-1.5-lac versions of their cars. But the Palio has an eco-model (1.2) and a power hatch (1.6). This, in itself, will be a limitation. And we are not even getting to the misfortunes surrounding Fiat India.

Butttttttttttttttttt what are they going to price it at? The Petra is already at 5 lacs so they cant use the old 1.6 GTX pricing because that would make the 1.6 Palio more expensive than the 1.6 Petra. 4.5 lacs? I doubt it.

Great decision nevertheless - The born again Palio 1.6 and the Baleno are the only true enthusiast cars with a price of less than 10 lac rupees.

GTO

solly · 5th May 2005, 22:25

Advance booking for GTX...200% yes, people will like me will be ready.. If only the guy had got to me 2 days earlier...

solly · 5th May 2005, 22:45

My guess regarding the pricing is, they will eliminate Palio 1.2 sport and try to fit the GTX Sport inbetween petra and 1.2. Don't know weather it will be a 1.6 or 1.6NV!!!!

lamborghini · 5th May 2005, 22:51

I am guessing the price for the GTX will be 4.5 on road.
The Petra should be priced at 4.2 on road with power steering and a.c and 4.5L with power windows, central locking.
What say guys?
Maybe a Petra GTX with a harder suspension for the family minded enthusiast?

Oh and Solly,
i think you meant Palio 1.2 and Petra 1.6 (not 1.2) right?

solly · 5th May 2005, 23:11

You are right, but the prices you are quoting are too high.. with the steel prices going up Fiat can't price their Tanks that low.. comeon be reasonable...

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Oh and Solly,
i think you meant Palio 1.2 and Petra 1.6 (not 1.2) right?

lamborghini · 5th May 2005, 23:17

If they can price the Petra 1.6 at 5L on road, i am sure the Palio 1.6 can be priced at 4.5L and the Petra 1.2 base beggining from 4.2L.

Revvmaster · 6th May 2005, 00:29

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Originally Posted by lamborghini

If they can price the Petra 1.6 at 5L on road, i am sure the Palio 1.6 can be priced at 4.5L and the Petra 1.2 base beggining from 4.2L.

At this rate Fiat will close down faster than they are supposed to...

But honestly, why have a Petra 1.2 in the first place? Fiat has done away with it cuz it was terribly underpowered. Especially for a 1.1 ton vehicle.

The 1.6 GTX though is good news. Especially people might give it a considerate thought. Provided Fiat improves it A.S.S., markets it well, manufactures it with consistent quality, improves its F.E., puts up a website that isn't down......

Revv

hawkeye · 6th May 2005, 05:58

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Originally Posted by GTO

The born again Palio 1.6 and the Baleno are the only true enthusiast cars with a price of less than 10 lac rupees.

And the two most under-rated cars in India.

Neverthless, the GTX is back.

I guess it will be around 30 k cheaper than the top of the line Petra. Any thing more cheap is just a bonus.

deepakhon · 6th May 2005, 11:23

According to what I have heard, Palio 1.6 GTX will be about 15k more than 1.2 sport. I guess Petra 1.2 will be more or less the same price as GTX. Petra 1.6 will sport the same price it is having now. The adventure will retail at 6.75 lakh onroad at Bangalore.

Montoya · 6th May 2005, 11:55

I would prefer to but a 1.6Petra rather then a GTX.. for 40K( i guess that will be the difference) you get a nice boot. Only reason to buy the GTX will be the formula red colour..

lamborghini · 6th May 2005, 12:03

So my prices are not as off as i figured.
The petra 1.2 will be for those with economy in mind along with a great boot, comfort, big car presence.
Now its all up to their marketing.
But i still think we need a petra with a harder suspension to truly rival the used citys and new Balenos.
PS - Like all other FIAT threads, this is growing like hell too.

deepakhon · 6th May 2005, 12:30

No idea about their dsl offering of Adventure. 63 bhp for that beast looks pretty miniscule. Probably they should turbocharge their dsl engine and should get the power in the 70-75 range with some decent low end torque. They should have these engines in Petra and Adventure. Probably Palio can go with the same engine as of now. I read they have introduced 1.7l turbocharged dsl engine in South Africa for Palio and Petra providing close to 70 bhp of power and around 13 kgm of torque at a very low rpm. They can atleast introduce that engine here in India before they start introducing their famed jtd's here courtesy maruthi.

lamborghini · 6th May 2005, 12:44

Even their 1.7 lt TD engine found on the Siena was better and CHEAPER.

RX135 · 6th May 2005, 13:40

Petra 1.6 on road is not 5L. It is 5.53 L on road in Pune. You can get discount with company/dealer schemes but that will be different in different invidual cases. Adventure comes with 100 bhp/1.6 engine.

GTO · 6th May 2005, 14:10

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Petra 1.6 on road is not 5L. It is 5.53 L on road in Pune.

And the Petra is cheaper in Bombay than anywhere else. This is where it is manufactured. The current price is 5.3L, of course before discounts.

GTO

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GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,534 Thanked: 300,735 Times View My Garage	Where the Getz and the Swift are different is that they dont have cheaper-by-1.5-lac versions of their cars. But the Palio has an eco-model (1.2) and a power hatch (1.6). This, in itself, will be a limitation. And we are not even getting to the misfortunes surrounding Fiat India. Butttttttttttttttttt what are they going to price it at? The Petra is already at 5 lacs so they cant use the old 1.6 GTX pricing because that would make the 1.6 Palio more expensive than the 1.6 Petra. 4.5 lacs? I doubt it. Great decision nevertheless - The born again Palio 1.6 and the Baleno are the only true enthusiast cars with a price of less than 10 lac rupees. GTO
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solly BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 150 Thanked: Once	Advance booking for GTX...200% yes, people will like me will be ready.. If only the guy had got to me 2 days earlier...
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5th May 2005, 22:45	#33
solly BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 150 Thanked: Once	My guess regarding the pricing is, they will eliminate Palio 1.2 sport and try to fit the GTX Sport inbetween petra and 1.2. Don't know weather it will be a 1.6 or 1.6NV!!!!
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lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	I am guessing the price for the GTX will be 4.5 on road. The Petra should be priced at 4.2 on road with power steering and a.c and 4.5L with power windows, central locking. What say guys? Maybe a Petra GTX with a harder suspension for the family minded enthusiast? Oh and Solly, i think you meant Palio 1.2 and Petra 1.6 (not 1.2) right?
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lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	If they can price the Petra 1.6 at 5L on road, i am sure the Palio 1.6 can be priced at 4.5L and the Petra 1.2 base beggining from 4.2L.
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6th May 2005, 11:23	#39
deepakhon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 65 Times	According to what I have heard, Palio 1.6 GTX will be about 15k more than 1.2 sport. I guess Petra 1.2 will be more or less the same price as GTX. Petra 1.6 will sport the same price it is having now. The adventure will retail at 6.75 lakh onroad at Bangalore.
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Montoya BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Best City In India Mumbai Posts: 665 Thanked: 0 Times	I would prefer to but a 1.6Petra rather then a GTX.. for 40K( i guess that will be the difference) you get a nice boot. Only reason to buy the GTX will be the formula red colour..
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6th May 2005, 12:03	#41
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	So my prices are not as off as i figured. The petra 1.2 will be for those with economy in mind along with a great boot, comfort, big car presence. Now its all up to their marketing. But i still think we need a petra with a harder suspension to truly rival the used citys and new Balenos. PS - Like all other FIAT threads, this is growing like hell too. Last edited by lamborghini : 6th May 2005 at 12:12.
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6th May 2005, 12:30	#42
deepakhon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 65 Times	No idea about their dsl offering of Adventure. 63 bhp for that beast looks pretty miniscule. Probably they should turbocharge their dsl engine and should get the power in the 70-75 range with some decent low end torque. They should have these engines in Petra and Adventure. Probably Palio can go with the same engine as of now. I read they have introduced 1.7l turbocharged dsl engine in South Africa for Palio and Petra providing close to 70 bhp of power and around 13 kgm of torque at a very low rpm. They can atleast introduce that engine here in India before they start introducing their famed jtd's here courtesy maruthi.
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6th May 2005, 12:44	#43
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	Even their 1.7 lt TD engine found on the Siena was better and CHEAPER.
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6th May 2005, 13:40	#44
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 75 Times	Petra 1.6 on road is not 5L. It is 5.53 L on road in Pune. You can get discount with company/dealer schemes but that will be different in different invidual cases. Adventure comes with 100 bhp/1.6 engine.
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