New Volkswagen Polo revealed

karanraheja · 27th July 2009, 16:20

Does anyone have any idea engine options that will be launched in the Indian Polo?? I hope we dont get the diesel clatter from the Fabia

in the Polo

deepakhon · 27th July 2009, 16:31

From whatever the ACI said, it will be 1.2 TDi 75 bhp dsl engine, and 1.2 litre petrol engine in the Fabia initially. VW might bring in the 1.2 TSFi at a later stage depending on the sales. This 1.2 TDi is said to be India spec engine.

Vid6639 · 27th July 2009, 17:27

Internationally it also comes with 1.6L TD CR engine. This engine in the Polo is 105PS with a DSG box.

This will be really expensive as it wont even get tax exemptions but will be the car to look out for. It maybe priced at 10L.

jassi · 27th July 2009, 23:31

all i want is a true hot hatch - good handling, nice turbo petrol engine which throws out 120bhp or more, all disc brakes and independent suspension. To cut costs, they can get rid of alloys, audio and other aftermarket stuff! Price it under 8 lacs :-)

abhinav.gupta88 · 27th July 2009, 23:53

Asking for too much jassi?

It ain't possible for all this spec to come under 8 lac.
If they do offer something like this, it won't be less than 10 lakh on road i'm sure.

Thad E Ginathom · 28th July 2009, 00:01

He meant "18 lakh" --- just forgot to type the "1"

jassi · 28th July 2009, 00:11

yeah i guess i asked for too much - maybe 10 lacs would be a good price.
i will lower the specs - turbo 100bhp petrol, front discs, independent suspension, no alloys and no audio. PCD 100 - so that one can add alloys of choice!
And an official aftermarket tuning option from VW itself (or like abarth)

so that we can move to all disc brakes and all the goodies later

edit - ok lets make it 11 lacs! but it better look good and handle well :-)

karanraheja · 30th July 2009, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepakhon

From whatever the ACI said, it will be 1.2 TDi 75 bhp dsl engine, and 1.2 litre petrol engine in the Fabia initially. VW might bring in the 1.2 TSFi at a later stage depending on the sales. This 1.2 TDi is said to be India spec engine.

Just saw an old episode of Overdrive. Shirish did mention that 1.2 TDI is one of the most fuel efficient diesel engine - 30km/l. Let us wait for this car to run on our Indian bumper to bumper traffic. The other engine would is yummy is 1.2 TSI petrol 0-100 in 9.67 secs

!! Bring it on VW!!!

Axe77 · 30th July 2009, 10:18

Its quite ironic that a group that has a range of award winning high tech engines at its disposal is shoving bottom of the pile options here. I'm not a big fan of the fabia powermills (petrol and diesel) and if the Polo will get the same engines initially then its quite disappointing. If they're gunning for premium pricing then lets see their premium engines. 1.2 TSi from the beginning for instance with Manual and DSG options.

ac 427 · 30th July 2009, 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by jassi

all i want is a true hot hatch - good handling, nice turbo petrol engine which throws out 120bhp or more, all disc brakes and independent suspension. To cut costs, they can get rid of alloys, audio and other aftermarket stuff! Price it under 8 lacs :-)

hmmm something similar is the Bravo, which will cost around 24 lacs. Agreed 100 % duty but still 12 lacs is the cost.

And adding DSG shoots up the price a lot, so i guess they would be better off without the dsg as we said before the 1.2 tsi is a good engine, the tsis are beign used in the new Superb, the Audis....

cheers,
ac

theEnd · 30th July 2009, 21:07

The simple logic is that somebody who pays a premium for a Polo over a Fabia or i20 (which is already a premium over a Swift or a Punto) would expect goodies such as a 100bhp+ engine, DSG, high quality plastics, rear disc brakes, satnav and so on.

Everyone already expects the Polo to be the highest priced car in this segment (so called premium hatches). However, nobody expects this car to be outpowered and out-featured by an i20.

VW needs to stick to its brand identity of building high quality cars that are slightly more expensive than the Japanese and the Koreans. Thats why it would be best to leave the cost cutting to those same Japanese and Korean cars, or even the Skoda (VW's in-house budget brand).

If VW tries to pass off 3/4ths or 9/10ths of a European Polo as an Indian Polo, the move will surely backfire. Starting with me (if there's no TSI engine with DSG, I'll be buying a Honda)!

crackingride · 12th August 2009, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by theEnd

The simple logic is that somebody who pays a premium for a Polo over a Fabia or i20 (which is already a premium over a Swift or a Punto) would expect goodies such as a 100bhp+ engine, DSG, high quality plastics, rear disc brakes, satnav and so on.

Everyone already expects the Polo to be the highest priced car in this segment (so called premium hatches). However, nobody expects this car to be outpowered and out-featured by an i20.

Agreed. And can someone explain to me how the new Laura/ Octavia has a 1.8 TSI engine when VW claims that fuel quality is too poor to bring the 1.2 TSI to india with the Polo?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jassi

yeah i guess i asked for too much - maybe 10 lacs would be a good price.

edit - ok lets make it 11 lacs! but it better look good and handle well :-)

If you look at the UK prices being quoted on road, the top of the line spec for a 1.6 diesel with pretty much the works comes to 11 odd lakh. WITHOUT lowering the spec!!
What are we doing wrong other than being born in the wrong damn place?

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vasudeva · 12th August 2009, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepakhon

This 1.2 TDi is said to be India spec engine.

India spec means what. Technical differences or `India'/developing country quality and material used. To be fair to VW, this India version quality attitude seems endemic to nearly all companies (foreign and domestic).

anekho · 12th August 2009, 17:12

I've said this before: I hope to god that the 1.2 crackpot skoda engine isn't there. Ideally I'd want the 1.2 TSI, but if that's not possible the 1.4l petrol should be decent enough.

I dream of owning a 1.2 TSI polo fully loaded (sat nav, touchscreen interface etc) in red with beautiful rims and low profile tyres...

sigh.

deepakhon · 12th August 2009, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasudeva

India spec means what. Technical differences or `India'/developing country quality and material used. To be fair to VW, this India version quality attitude seems endemic to nearly all companies (foreign and domestic).

From what I know, they do not have any 1.2 TDi in their portfolio yet. This engine is designed for India. Whether they use components from India or not, I have no idea.

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karanraheja Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 436 Times	Does anyone have any idea engine options that will be launched in the Indian Polo?? I hope we dont get the diesel clatter from the Fabia in the Polo
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deepakhon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 65 Times	From whatever the ACI said, it will be 1.2 TDi 75 bhp dsl engine, and 1.2 litre petrol engine in the Fabia initially. VW might bring in the 1.2 TSFi at a later stage depending on the sales. This 1.2 TDi is said to be India spec engine.
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Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,477 Times View My Garage	Internationally it also comes with 1.6L TD CR engine. This engine in the Polo is 105PS with a DSG box. This will be really expensive as it wont even get tax exemptions but will be the car to look out for. It maybe priced at 10L.
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27th July 2009, 23:31	#79
jassi BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 980 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	all i want is a true hot hatch - good handling, nice turbo petrol engine which throws out 120bhp or more, all disc brakes and independent suspension. To cut costs, they can get rid of alloys, audio and other aftermarket stuff! Price it under 8 lacs :-) Last edited by jassi : 27th July 2009 at 23:32.
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abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Asking for too much jassi? It ain't possible for all this spec to come under 8 lac. If they do offer something like this, it won't be less than 10 lakh on road i'm sure.
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28th July 2009, 00:01	#81
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,005 Thanked: 26,443 Times	He meant "18 lakh" --- just forgot to type the "1"
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28th July 2009, 00:11	#82
jassi BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 980 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	yeah i guess i asked for too much - maybe 10 lacs would be a good price. i will lower the specs - turbo 100bhp petrol, front discs, independent suspension, no alloys and no audio. PCD 100 - so that one can add alloys of choice! And an official aftermarket tuning option from VW itself (or like abarth) so that we can move to all disc brakes and all the goodies later edit - ok lets make it 11 lacs! but it better look good and handle well :-)
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30th July 2009, 10:18	#84
Axe77 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,923 Thanked: 20,665 Times	Its quite ironic that a group that has a range of award winning high tech engines at its disposal is shoving bottom of the pile options here. I'm not a big fan of the fabia powermills (petrol and diesel) and if the Polo will get the same engines initially then its quite disappointing. If they're gunning for premium pricing then lets see their premium engines. 1.2 TSi from the beginning for instance with Manual and DSG options.
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theEnd BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 534 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	The simple logic is that somebody who pays a premium for a Polo over a Fabia or i20 (which is already a premium over a Swift or a Punto) would expect goodies such as a 100bhp+ engine, DSG, high quality plastics, rear disc brakes, satnav and so on. Everyone already expects the Polo to be the highest priced car in this segment (so called premium hatches). However, nobody expects this car to be outpowered and out-featured by an i20. VW needs to stick to its brand identity of building high quality cars that are slightly more expensive than the Japanese and the Koreans. Thats why it would be best to leave the cost cutting to those same Japanese and Korean cars, or even the Skoda (VW's in-house budget brand). If VW tries to pass off 3/4ths or 9/10ths of a European Polo as an Indian Polo, the move will surely backfire. Starting with me (if there's no TSI engine with DSG, I'll be buying a Honda)! Last edited by theEnd : 30th July 2009 at 21:08.
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anekho Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: . Posts: 1,995 Thanked: 684 Times	I've said this before: I hope to god that the 1.2 crackpot skoda engine isn't there. Ideally I'd want the 1.2 TSI, but if that's not possible the 1.4l petrol should be decent enough. I dream of owning a 1.2 TSI polo fully loaded (sat nav, touchscreen interface etc) in red with beautiful rims and low profile tyres... sigh.
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