The BEST Diesel for City Driving?

raj_5004 · 10th March 2009, 09:19

B Segment
Swift VDi:
the getz CRDi though lot more pwerful has tons of turbo lag which is irritating in the city. also the swift's gearshift is way better. i have not driven the vista diesel yet.

C-Segment/D-Segment
Octavia 1.9 TDi:
i have not driven the laura but i loved the octavia. it has got the linear power delivery missing in competition. i wish the clutch was softer though. even the fiesta is better than the verna for city driving.

SUV/ MUV
Scorpio 2.2 MHawk:
Scorpio 2.6 CRDe:
i find both the scorpios ideal for city traffic with their responsive behaviour, light clutch & good visibility. innova does not respond to throttle movements the way the scorpio does & its visibility is not as good as the scorpio or safari. safari 2.2 still suffers from poor low end response & is not the most refined.

gemithomas · 10th March 2009, 09:39

Hatch
Vista QuadraJet- no turbo kicks, comfortable, should be easy to maintain.

Sedan
Fiesta - Very good feedback from steering, easy to move around, adequate response

MUV
I'll go for the Scorpio or the Qualis.

Why didnt you ask for the worst too

I think it would be the Getz CRDi (for its untamable power) the Magnum (for the same reason and very effective less rpm range) and the Safari Dicor 3.0 (for its sheer size and hard t control engine)

kailashnj · 10th March 2009, 10:10

B Segment

Vista Quadrajet - No turbo lags and turbo kicks in as low as 1750 rpm. Faster than swift vdi also the clutch is very light and boon in traffic condition.

C Segment
Magnum TCDi

D segment
Sonata Transform CRDi

SUV
Scorpio CRDe.

MileCruncher · 10th March 2009, 10:15

Just drove the Verna CRDI and loved it for the acceleration. If it would be a real kick *** in the GETZ because of the power to weight ratio.

Screwdriva · 10th March 2009, 10:19

If its a city like Bombay, no car offers the experience of the Vista for its size and price. For around 5 lacs you get incredible space and ride comfort, a VERY advanced engine and a decent looking car. Driving position is perched up high and everything is light and easy to drive.

Only downside - the plastic feels cheaper but that was something I could live with.

teknophobia · 10th March 2009, 10:24

B Segment
Indica Dicor: the quadrajet doesn't have the same response

C/D
Indigo CS dicor: the fewer inches makes a difference

SUV/MUV
Innova

Yes, I am a fan of the dicor engine

varun83 · 10th March 2009, 10:30

B seg: Vista
Just for the fantastic multijet and comfortable driving position
C seg : Linea
For the linear power delivery and huge gear ratios

D seg: laura

MUV; Innova/Safari 2.2 - innova for the sedan like driving comfort and Safari 2.2 for the improved engine for city driving

ashish22 · 10th March 2009, 13:23

if i have to drive entirely in city then i wont look at D segment at all. On the other hand i also dont like hatches so i will settle for a C segment car. And it has to be the fiesta TDCi for city driving.

Accelerator · 10th March 2009, 13:30

B Segment - Indica Quadrajet
C Segment - Verna Diesel AT
D segment - Embera Diesel AT
SUV - Innova 2.5 D4D

If asked for one choice - Verna AT...

reignofchaos · 10th March 2009, 13:55

The magnum is painful for city driving - too much turbo lag and power delivery is really non linear. The controls especially the clutch is really heavy as well. Handling is pretty pathetic as well.

nagvasireddy · 10th March 2009, 14:10

B Segment - Swift
C Segment - Fiesta, except that the turbo lag is as good as Verna
SUV - Scorpio

oss · 10th March 2009, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashish22

if i have to drive entirely in city then i wont look at D segment at all. On the other hand i also dont like hatches so i will settle for a C segment car. And it has to be the fiesta TDCi for city driving.

I second that.

If it were to be a diesel and entirely a city drive, then i wouldn't care to look beyond Fiesta TDCi

turbo1787 · 10th March 2009, 14:28

My preference:-
B segment- Swift vdi
C segment- Verna Crdi
SUV- Safari 2.2

now just imagine having all three in your garage; the most difficult part of the day would be to decide which one to drive

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nnandi · 10th March 2009, 14:42

B --> Swift VDi
C --> Fiesta TDCi
D --> Laura 1.9 PD
SUV/MUV --> Innova 2.5 D4D

But if its city driving only, nothing beats the swift vdi.

architect · 10th March 2009, 16:56

My vote goes for Fiesta TDCi.

Power is adequate for city, delivery is linear, size is neither too small nor too big, manoeuvrability is not bad, refinement is decent. It's a comfortable car too. No wonder it's the current favourite yellow plate sedan along with Logans.

All Multijet engines suffer from turbo lag in varying degrees, and the Getz / Verna do so even more. Anybody who claims otherwise should drive an Octavia to appreciated the difference. Palio 1.9 loses on low-speed ride quality and the Skodas lose out because of their size.

10th March 2009, 09:19	#16
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	B Segment Swift VDi: the getz CRDi though lot more pwerful has tons of turbo lag which is irritating in the city. also the swift's gearshift is way better. i have not driven the vista diesel yet. C-Segment/D-Segment Octavia 1.9 TDi: i have not driven the laura but i loved the octavia. it has got the linear power delivery missing in competition. i wish the clutch was softer though. even the fiesta is better than the verna for city driving. SUV/ MUV Scorpio 2.2 MHawk: Scorpio 2.6 CRDe: i find both the scorpios ideal for city traffic with their responsive behaviour, light clutch & good visibility. innova does not respond to throttle movements the way the scorpio does & its visibility is not as good as the scorpio or safari. safari 2.2 still suffers from poor low end response & is not the most refined.
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10th March 2009, 09:39	#17
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	Hatch Vista QuadraJet- no turbo kicks, comfortable, should be easy to maintain. Sedan Fiesta - Very good feedback from steering, easy to move around, adequate response MUV I'll go for the Scorpio or the Qualis. Why didnt you ask for the worst too I think it would be the Getz CRDi (for its untamable power) the Magnum (for the same reason and very effective less rpm range) and the Safari Dicor 3.0 (for its sheer size and hard t control engine) Last edited by gemithomas : 10th March 2009 at 09:55.
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10th March 2009, 10:10	#18
kailashnj BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 958 Thanked: 375 Times	B Segment Vista Quadrajet - No turbo lags and turbo kicks in as low as 1750 rpm. Faster than swift vdi also the clutch is very light and boon in traffic condition. C Segment Magnum TCDi D segment Sonata Transform CRDi SUV Scorpio CRDe.
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10th March 2009, 10:15	#19
MileCruncher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MH01 Posts: 4,235 Thanked: 592 Times View My Garage	Just drove the Verna CRDI and loved it for the acceleration. If it would be a real kick *** in the GETZ because of the power to weight ratio.
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10th March 2009, 10:19	#20
Screwdriva BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London/ Bombay Posts: 582 Thanked: 527 Times View My Garage	If its a city like Bombay, no car offers the experience of the Vista for its size and price. For around 5 lacs you get incredible space and ride comfort, a VERY advanced engine and a decent looking car. Driving position is perched up high and everything is light and easy to drive. Only downside - the plastic feels cheaper but that was something I could live with.
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10th March 2009, 10:24	#21
teknophobia BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: WB/MH Posts: 385 Thanked: 121 Times	B Segment Indica Dicor: the quadrajet doesn't have the same response C/D Indigo CS dicor: the fewer inches makes a difference SUV/MUV Innova Yes, I am a fan of the dicor engine
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10th March 2009, 10:30	#22
varun83 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: hyderabad Posts: 17 Thanked: 5 Times	B seg: Vista Just for the fantastic multijet and comfortable driving position C seg : Linea For the linear power delivery and huge gear ratios D seg: laura MUV; Innova/Safari 2.2 - innova for the sedan like driving comfort and Safari 2.2 for the improved engine for city driving
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10th March 2009, 13:23	#23
ashish22 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 598 Thanked: 100 Times View My Garage	if i have to drive entirely in city then i wont look at D segment at all. On the other hand i also dont like hatches so i will settle for a C segment car. And it has to be the fiesta TDCi for city driving.
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10th March 2009, 13:30	#24
Accelerator BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 47 Thanked: 13 Times	B Segment - Indica Quadrajet C Segment - Verna Diesel AT D segment - Embera Diesel AT SUV - Innova 2.5 D4D If asked for one choice - Verna AT...
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10th March 2009, 13:55	#25
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	The magnum is painful for city driving - too much turbo lag and power delivery is really non linear. The controls especially the clutch is really heavy as well. Handling is pretty pathetic as well.
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10th March 2009, 14:10	#26
nagvasireddy BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 107 Thanked: 3 Times	B Segment - Swift C Segment - Fiesta, except that the turbo lag is as good as Verna SUV - Scorpio
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10th March 2009, 14:28	#28
turbo1787 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NOIDA Posts: 103 Thanked: 23 Times	My preference:- B segment- Swift vdi C segment- Verna Crdi SUV- Safari 2.2 now just imagine having all three in your garage; the most difficult part of the day would be to decide which one to drive.
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10th March 2009, 14:42	#29
nnandi BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 160 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	B --> Swift VDi C --> Fiesta TDCi D --> Laura 1.9 PD SUV/MUV --> Innova 2.5 D4D But if its city driving only, nothing beats the swift vdi.
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10th March 2009, 16:56	#30
architect Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ghaziabad, U. P Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 764 Times	My vote goes for Fiesta TDCi. Power is adequate for city, delivery is linear, size is neither too small nor too big, manoeuvrability is not bad, refinement is decent. It's a comfortable car too. No wonder it's the current favourite yellow plate sedan along with Logans. All Multijet engines suffer from turbo lag in varying degrees, and the Getz / Verna do so even more. Anybody who claims otherwise should drive an Octavia to appreciated the difference. Palio 1.9 loses on low-speed ride quality and the Skodas lose out because of their size.
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