Fiat Launching Linea 1.6 Soon!

oss · 27th October 2009, 08:00

1.4 TJet is getting launched in Feb-Mar 2010. However the plans of 1.6 MJD launch is delayed and may not happen till late 2010.

According to ACI, the 1.6 MJD uses GM gear box and Fiat is in the process of replacing it with one of its own. Obviously in India they don't want to launch with a gear box that will be phased out soon, so they will be waiting for the new FIAT designed gear box to be made available to them, which will certainly delay the launch schedule for 1.6.

Wonder if Maruti will be able to get its hands on 1.6 diesel engine for SX4 ahead of Fiat India.

nitindangoria · 27th October 2009, 08:28

carwale has announced that Linea 1.9 D will be launched around jan/feb 2010.
Will Manza follow suit?

jkdas · 27th October 2009, 09:47

Had a talk with fellow TBHPians last saturday during our TBHP TVM Meet about this. A point I overlooked, 1.6 or 1.9 on the Linea would make it costlier coz of the tax regulation.

But, coz now the Manza had the same engine as in Linea, it will be wise for Fiat to bring in a bigger engine. My bet is it has to be the 1.6 not the 1.9.

NutsNBolts · 27th October 2009, 10:05

+1 to jkdas. If Fiat is thinking of providing the same one to Maruti, they might want to have it on their car as well. A year after the launch of Linea/Punto respectively will be ideal time frame for Fiat to introduce improved power plants. Is the 1.9 same as the one that does service on Palio or is it a new engine?

amit27 · 27th October 2009, 11:52

Fiat is not a volume producer of car I am not sure given there current volume of 2500 cars a month they are already supporting 3 engines between Punto & Linea along 8 interior trims this is hell of a logistics on top of that there are rumours of 2 addtional enginer options and another interior trim also . This is more complexity than possible compared to rivals . Let them do what they are doing with better fit and finish and yes better marketing also .

cruiser_1982 · 27th October 2009, 13:08

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Originally Posted by NutsNBolts

+1 to jkdas. If Fiat is thinking of providing the same one to Maruti, they might want to have it on their car as well. A year after the launch of Linea/Punto respectively will be ideal time frame for Fiat to introduce improved power plants. Is the 1.9 same as the one that does service on Palio or is it a new engine?

The one on the Palio was a 1.9 NA engine. The one that might be coming for Linea is a 1.9 JTD engine(Multijet)

Sudan_NFS · 27th October 2009, 13:42

1.6 MJD Linea is going to be launched in Auto expo 2010 with two new colors with 105 BHp!!.so lets fire up!

vijaythacker · 27th October 2009, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Sudan_NFS

1.6 MJD Linea is going to be launched in Auto expo 2010 with two new colors with 105 BHp!!.so lets fire up!

read in our forum in some thread today itself that fiat CEO denied coming out with 1.6 mjd, rather chances of 1.9 seems to be true.

gomzi · 27th October 2009, 15:12

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Originally Posted by vijaythacker

read in our forum in some thread today itself that fiat CEO denied coming out with 1.6 mjd, rather chances of 1.9 seems to be true.

Well, they keep denying such news until the actual launch

EssYouWe · 27th October 2009, 21:58

The Auto-Expo can't get here soon enough, can it?

I wish they would put all the debates to rest. A TATA-Fiat dealer told me that the 1.6 MJD could be seen doing service in the Linea by next year.

Yet, I keep hoping it'd be the 1.9 Multi Jet. Great stuff, that engine is.

The 1.4 T-Jet would make the Petrol version a hot-seller too!

I am just scared by the ineptitude of Tata servicing engineers with handling the T-Jet.

Que sera sera, I guess.

jkdas · 28th October 2009, 09:35

The 1.9-litre engine will zip to 60mph in just 9.2 seconds on the way to a top speed of 124mph. Something to take on the Optra and the Cruze then.

A jump from 1.3 to 1.9 is a big dream which should come with big price tag. Wont make sense for common people.

ACM · 28th October 2009, 09:46

1.9 MJD FIAT could make the Cruz, Optra, Ocatvia loose some of their rightly claimed shine.
1.9 MJD would be a full measure rather than the half measures that FIAT has been adopting till now. It may not sell much would put the car beyond the competetion as far as VFM is concerned even with say a 75k Increase in Price.

neoonwheels · 28th October 2009, 10:07

I was told by one of the reputed TATA-FIAT dealers on the Punto launch day in Pune that Linea will come in 1.9 MJD avtar with auto tranny. He was not sure about the manual transmission with the same engine.

EssYouWe · 28th October 2009, 12:21

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Originally Posted by ACM

1.9 MJD FIAT could make the Cruz, Optra, Ocatvia loose some of their rightly claimed shine.
1.9 MJD would be a full measure rather than the half measures that FIAT has been adopting till now. It may not sell much would put the car beyond the competetion as far as VFM is concerned even with say a 75k Increase in Price.

A 1.9 MJD will not be placed at *just* 75k more. You are placing the car in a totally different segment.

People shopping for Altis and Cruze want good interiors and gadgetry. Most do not buy the car for power.

The Linea with its current interiors would find no place in the segment and will end up as yet another Fiat misfit.

If the 1.9 is somehow priced at just 75k more, it'll make things really interesting.

jkdas · 28th October 2009, 12:31

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Originally Posted by neoonwheels

I was told by one of the reputed TATA-FIAT dealers on the Punto launch day in Pune that Linea will come in 1.9 MJD avtar with auto tranny. He was not sure about the manual transmission with the same engine.

it was/will be called the Bravo and priced at 20lac

27th October 2009, 08:00	#226
oss BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 683 Thanked: 6 Times	1.4 TJet is getting launched in Feb-Mar 2010. However the plans of 1.6 MJD launch is delayed and may not happen till late 2010. According to ACI, the 1.6 MJD uses GM gear box and Fiat is in the process of replacing it with one of its own. Obviously in India they don't want to launch with a gear box that will be phased out soon, so they will be waiting for the new FIAT designed gear box to be made available to them, which will certainly delay the launch schedule for 1.6. Wonder if Maruti will be able to get its hands on 1.6 diesel engine for SX4 ahead of Fiat India.
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27th October 2009, 08:28	#227
nitindangoria BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 109 Thanked: 3 Times	carwale has announced that Linea 1.9 D will be launched around jan/feb 2010. Will Manza follow suit?
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27th October 2009, 09:47	#228
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Had a talk with fellow TBHPians last saturday during our TBHP TVM Meet about this. A point I overlooked, 1.6 or 1.9 on the Linea would make it costlier coz of the tax regulation. But, coz now the Manza had the same engine as in Linea, it will be wise for Fiat to bring in a bigger engine. My bet is it has to be the 1.6 not the 1.9.
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27th October 2009, 10:05	#229
NutsNBolts BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jammu Posts: 817 Thanked: 41 Times View My Garage	+1 to jkdas. If Fiat is thinking of providing the same one to Maruti, they might want to have it on their car as well. A year after the launch of Linea/Punto respectively will be ideal time frame for Fiat to introduce improved power plants. Is the 1.9 same as the one that does service on Palio or is it a new engine?
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27th October 2009, 11:52	#230
amit27 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Guragaon Posts: 173 Thanked: 0 Times	Fiat is not a volume producer of car I am not sure given there current volume of 2500 cars a month they are already supporting 3 engines between Punto & Linea along 8 interior trims this is hell of a logistics on top of that there are rumours of 2 addtional enginer options and another interior trim also . This is more complexity than possible compared to rivals . Let them do what they are doing with better fit and finish and yes better marketing also .
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27th October 2009, 13:42	#232
Sudan_NFS BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: chennai Posts: 759 Thanked: 16 Times	1.6 MJD Linea is going to be launched in Auto expo 2010 with two new colors with 105 BHp!!.so lets fire up!
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27th October 2009, 21:58	#235
EssYouWe Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lucknow Posts: 1,391 Thanked: 18 Times	The Auto-Expo can't get here soon enough, can it? I wish they would put all the debates to rest. A TATA-Fiat dealer told me that the 1.6 MJD could be seen doing service in the Linea by next year. Yet, I keep hoping it'd be the 1.9 Multi Jet. Great stuff, that engine is. The 1.4 T-Jet would make the Petrol version a hot-seller too! I am just scared by the ineptitude of Tata servicing engineers with handling the T-Jet. Que sera sera, I guess.
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28th October 2009, 09:35	#236
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	The 1.9-litre engine will zip to 60mph in just 9.2 seconds on the way to a top speed of 124mph. Something to take on the Optra and the Cruze then. A jump from 1.3 to 1.9 is a big dream which should come with big price tag. Wont make sense for common people.
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28th October 2009, 09:46	#237
ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,745 Thanked: 4,361 Times View My Garage	1.9 MJD FIAT could make the Cruz, Optra, Ocatvia loose some of their rightly claimed shine. 1.9 MJD would be a full measure rather than the half measures that FIAT has been adopting till now. It may not sell much would put the car beyond the competetion as far as VFM is concerned even with say a 75k Increase in Price.
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28th October 2009, 10:07	#238
neoonwheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,065 Thanked: 1,877 Times View My Garage	I was told by one of the reputed TATA-FIAT dealers on the Punto launch day in Pune that Linea will come in 1.9 MJD avtar with auto tranny. He was not sure about the manual transmission with the same engine.
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