Team-BHP stands for the TRUTH. But Skoda wants to “instigate” Team-BHP and its users!

hemanthisgreat · 8th April 2009, 20:22

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Originally Posted by blacmagic

views? suggestions? did I say something wrong / miss something out?

I think you have said everything beautifully. Keep it up. You can also mention that harish's case is not a one off case, there have been numerous threads before harish's case describing the poor aftersales of skoda, which costs a lot.

About the objection part, let GTO respond to that.

amohit · 8th April 2009, 20:26

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Originally Posted by reignofchaos

^^Says 16V for a V6.

May be some new customer friendly initiative from Skoda side.
2valves(and may be 1 wheel/1 door) factory removed!

blacmagic · 8th April 2009, 20:30

2 valves [constant] = 2 : A
66% chance of the valves not being stolen at the service center = 66/100 = 0.66: B

A + B = 2 + 0.66 = 2.66

jasher26 · 8th April 2009, 21:53

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Originally Posted by blacmagic

2 valves [constant] = 2 : A
66% chance of the valves not being stolen at the service center = 66/100 = 0.66: B

A + B = 2 + 0.66 = 2.66

that is a hilarious calculation

krazyking · 8th April 2009, 22:01

Great, strong and firm reply GTO.

blacmagic · 8th April 2009, 23:13

somebody on the Wikipedia talk page thinks that the criticism section is not Wikiworthy [wow! a new word!!] because he hasnt heard any such things about Skoda.
Im sure he hasnt heard about 2.66 valves per cylinder either. lets see how he likes that.

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Looks like one man protest against Skoda? I would remove the whole section... --Typ932 T·C 18:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Typ932, you really should click on those links provided and read them through before concluding that it's a one man protest. I do NOT own a Skoda but regularly see extensive criticism being levelled on Skoda and their callous response; both on the internet and in person.Blacwiki (talk) 14:06, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Where do you live? I havent heard anything like this about Skoda and Im not sure if this is really Wikipedia stuff at all --Typ932 T·C 16:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I live in India. you should really read completely through everything and then form opinions. but since it's obvious you haven't been doing that, here[Indian Consumer Complaints Forum | skoda] is a link that details the woes of Skoda India customers. and this is just one site. let me know once you are done reading through it and I'll give you more horror stories to read. if this is not Wikipedia material, I'd be enlightened if you let me know what is. 2.66 valves per cylinder [Skoda:: Facts] maybe? Blacwiki (talk) 17:29, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

ssjr0498 · 8th April 2009, 23:16

LOL!!!

awesome equation!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacmagic

2 valves [constant] = 2 : A
66% chance of the valves not being stolen at the service center = 66/100 = 0.66: B

A + B = 2 + 0.66 = 2.66

nowwhat? · 8th April 2009, 23:20

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Originally Posted by blacmagic

umm... guys? hate to interrupt on the hearty laugh about 2.66 valves per cylinder but it looks like the Wiki article is heating up a little.
Talk:Å*koda Auto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
views? suggestions? did I say something wrong / miss something out?
GTO, any objections on the screenshots being on my server or me divulging private information?

I guess what is missing is a sub-section for "India" in the "Criticism" section. For example see Criticism of Coca-Cola - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Based on the responses received by various complainants from Skoda in the Czech republic and Volkswagen Germany, we can see that Skoda's callous attitude in India has origins there. It wouldn't be surprising if owners of Skoda vehicles in other countries are facing the same problems too. If so, we should document that on wikipedia as well.

By the way, I feel that we should not be defensive of team-bhp on wikipedia as you have done a good job by referencing articles published by established media outlets in addition to the customer testimonials from team-bhp.

My two cents...

greenhorn · 8th April 2009, 23:36

blacmagic, try to keep a level head and an NPOV while responding. the dig about the 2.66 valves at the talk page is totally unwarranted

blacmagic · 8th April 2009, 23:45

the guy doesnt read dude. just talks. needed to get him to read.
also to show him the carelessness exercised by Skoda in India.

greenhorn · 9th April 2009, 00:00

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Originally Posted by blacmagic

the guy doesnt read dude. just talks. needed to get him to read.
also to show him the carelessness exercised by Skoda in India.

you are not out to convince him. You need to change your strategy. because he acts cocky doesnt mean you should too. in the meantime, I've posted something there as well

blacmagic · 9th April 2009, 00:25

got it Greenhorn. nice one. that should keep him quiet for a while. from now, Ill reply coolly only to only those who matter. would be nice if you could keep chipping in as well.

YC.BALENO.CHD · 9th April 2009, 03:23

http://www.skoda-auto.co.in/IND/Medi.../22_Aug_07.pdf

Mr. Karsten Bogun, MD (Commercial)
]ŠkodaIndia said, “Today we feel extremely proud to reach

the top ranking of JD Power SSI study. The Indian automobile industry is witnessing a boom and the
market has become very competitive where the customer is the king. Our endeavor has always been to
fulfill customers’ expectations and for this we have set high dealer sales standards. We are thankful to
our dealers across India for their continued support in this endeavour. This validation by the J.D Power Asia Pacific India SSI Report is a testament to our success. After all only the best we can do is good enough for our customers.

Well,its quite an old report,but this is what i found in the press release of Skoda India.
I wonder how skoda can top j.d.power sales satisfaction survey depite providing such a horriying customer assistance,or the lack of any assistance that is.

Further, I am quite surprised how skoda could had managed to top the survey and be a match for hyundais and marutis in terms of sales satisfaction.
Or is it that all the blunders skoda has created are of recent times and do not date back to early 2007 when skoda bagged the award?

I for one,sense something hanky-phanky with this press release as well. Further if read the words of the above mentioned gentleman,he is praising the dealers and is thankful to them for their support.Well,now what kind of support is he exactly talking about?

Has he tied up with the dealers to put used/fake parts in the cars and rip off the genuine to send them back to aurangabad so that they may be used to manufacture another car? well,this theory of mine is surely stupid,but with skoda,,you never know.

devarshi84 · 9th April 2009, 04:22

I wonder if anybody checked this out.

http://www.skoda-auto.co.in/IND/Publ...super_icon.pdf

dockap · 9th April 2009, 06:48

dont know if its of any help but i started a thread with links to both team bhp threads on briskoda

skoda auto india and its service centers - BRISKODA - The Skoda Forums

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8th April 2009, 20:30	#1218
blacmagic BANNED Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 221 Thanked: 12 Times	2.66 2 valves [constant] = 2 : A 66% chance of the valves not being stolen at the service center = 66/100 = 0.66: B A + B = 2 + 0.66 = 2.66
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8th April 2009, 22:01	#1220
krazyking BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mumbai/Hong Kong Posts: 329 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Great, strong and firm reply GTO.
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8th April 2009, 23:36	#1224
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,744 Thanked: 4,387 Times View My Garage	blacmagic, try to keep a level head and an NPOV while responding. the dig about the 2.66 valves at the talk page is totally unwarranted
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8th April 2009, 23:45	#1225
blacmagic BANNED Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 221 Thanked: 12 Times	the guy doesnt read dude. just talks. needed to get him to read. also to show him the carelessness exercised by Skoda in India. Last edited by blacmagic : 8th April 2009 at 23:48.
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9th April 2009, 00:25	#1227
blacmagic BANNED Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 221 Thanked: 12 Times	got it Greenhorn. nice one. that should keep him quiet for a while. from now, Ill reply coolly only to only those who matter. would be nice if you could keep chipping in as well.
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9th April 2009, 03:23	#1228
YC.BALENO.CHD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 261 Times View My Garage	J.d.power http://www.skoda-auto.co.in/IND/Medi.../22_Aug_07.pdf *Mr. Karsten Bogun, MD (Commercial)* ]ŠkodaIndia said, “Today we feel extremely proud to reach the top ranking of JD Power SSI study. The Indian automobile industry is witnessing a boom and the market has become very competitive where the customer is the king. Our endeavor has always been to fulfill customers’ expectations and for this we have set high dealer sales standards. We are thankful to our dealers across India for their continued support in this endeavour. This validation by the J.D Power Asia Pacific India SSI Report is a testament to our success. After all only the best we can do is good enough for our customers. Well,its quite an old report,but this is what i found in the press release of Skoda India. I wonder how skoda can top j.d.power sales satisfaction survey depite providing such a horriying customer assistance,or the lack of any assistance that is. Further, I am quite surprised how skoda could had managed to top the survey and be a match for hyundais and marutis in terms of sales satisfaction. Or is it that all the blunders skoda has created are of recent times and do not date back to early 2007 when skoda bagged the award? I for one,sense something hanky-phanky with this press release as well. Further if read the words of the above mentioned gentleman,he is praising the dealers and is thankful to them for their support.Well,now what kind of support is he exactly talking about? Has he tied up with the dealers to put used/fake parts in the cars and rip off the genuine to send them back to aurangabad so that they may be used to manufacture another car? well,this theory of mine is surely stupid,but with skoda,,you never know. Last edited by YC.BALENO.CHD : 9th April 2009 at 03:31. Reason: addition of few lines
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9th April 2009, 04:22	#1229
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	I wonder if anybody checked this out. http://www.skoda-auto.co.in/IND/Publ...super_icon.pdf
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9th April 2009, 06:48	#1230
dockap BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mangalore Posts: 868 Thanked: 478 Times View My Garage	dont know if its of any help but i started a thread with links to both team bhp threads on briskoda skoda auto india and its service centers - BRISKODA - The Skoda Forums
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