Safari Common Rail Engine Launch? EDIT 010805 Now driven. Edit 190805 Now BOUGHT!!!

metallica · 3rd August 2005, 18:26

Speedfreak ..thanks for the pics ..
I dont think anyone needs to 'guess' about the car ....

Anymore ..do send them across.

veyron1 · 3rd August 2005, 18:44

the news is out on rediff- the price range of the new safari (as quoted by rediff) is 7.83-12.70.

here's the link....

NEW SAFARI

no specs, though- or pics......

as the car has been launched today, further details should be out by tomorrow, or the day after- at the most.

i'm keeping my fingers crossed- i hope the powerplant has at least 130 horses...and 260nm....

edit: another site has the detailed info- here's the link-

NEW SAFARI

115 bhp....i'm a li'l disappointed....but 300nm....hmmm....all comments reserved till the test drive....

Steeroid · 3rd August 2005, 19:03

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Originally Posted by SUV

Do anybody have a idea if this is a TC or a NA ? Cos the 497 SP 3ltr DI are avialable in NA (65 BHP as on the 207 DI) and in TC Form (close 100 BHP as on the 407 Turbo Military Spec 4x4).

Turbo Charged Common Rail motor called DICOR (see earlier posts) - the Turbo whistle is unmistakable. Dealer says 135 bhp, but no printed matter to confirm it. Yes it is 25 kgnm of torque that the dealer talked about, my mistake.

The prices quoted on rediff pretty much confirm what we've heard all along - Rs.30,000 to Rs.60,000 increase across the board.

The models available will be Lx, Ex and Vx featuring the DICOR engine and the LXi, EXi and VXi featuring the 2.4 litre 135 bhp petrol engine. Add the 4X2 and 4X4 options and that makes it 12 variants in total.

My dealer has quoted an estimated 9.4 lakhs on the road for the EX 4X2 and 10.30 for EX 4X4. VX is expected to be at least Rs.1 lakh more than the EX, which should bring it to about Rs.11.50 with 4X4.

Steeroid · 3rd August 2005, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by veyron1

edit: another site has the detailed info- here's the link-

NEW SAFARI

115 bhp....i'm a li'l disappointed....but 300nm....hmmm....all comments reserved till the test drive....

So am I. 115 bhp doesnt sound like a lot though the vehicle did move like greased lightning. 3 litres to develop just 115 bhp?????

I'll wait till I get the specs sheet from the dealer - on the road prices expected at 11 am tomorrow. So I wonder if the 135 bhp quoted by the dealer referred to the petrol motor. WOuld that be a good idea now?

SUV · 3rd August 2005, 20:48

Engine :

Type : Direct Injection Common Rail
Capacity (cc) 2956
Max. Output (PS) at rpm 115 @ 3000
Max. Torque (Nm) at rpm 300 @ 1600-2000

It does not say TC anywhere ... I really wonder if this is Turbo Charged .. Cos just a 15 BHP Increase after using Common Rail kind of sounds funny for a TC'd 3 ltr DI

But the rest of the specs are class apart depending on how long they are to-gether :-)

Check : http://uv.tatamotors.com/newuv/index.asp# its updated with the DiCor specs

Steeroid · 3rd August 2005, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUV

It does not say TC anywhere ... I really wonder if this is Turbo Charged .. Cos just a 15 BHP Increase after using Common Rail kind of sounds funny for a TC'd 3 ltr DI

Yeah right but I did hear a whistle when I drove the vehicle. Had to be a turbo whistle, but I wonder if NA Common Rail motors also have a whistle (something to do with the pressured fuel injection?)

turbo_lover · 3rd August 2005, 21:05

Quote:

Max. Torque (Nm) at rpm 300 @ 1600-2000

thats what indicates its a TC ..
max Torque figure of NA engines are generally indicated at a fixed engine speed ..
eg - xxXnm@ 2200rpm
whereas incase of TC engines they show a rpm range like above (1600 - 2000)

this is something that i have noticed ..correct me if i am wrong .

Mpower · 3rd August 2005, 21:15

Has to be a turbo. Common Rails dont work withou turbos.

turbo_lover · 3rd August 2005, 22:38

off topic ...just want to confirm ..
the palio 1.9D is not a common rail ..right ?

vivek.singh.73 · 3rd August 2005, 22:48

nah- it isn't, Fiat is yet to introduce CRDI engine in India :-(, I don't think they have in them to run a car company in India..too bad

metallica · 4th August 2005, 00:02

...........of whatever little there is on the Tata Motors website , it definitely makes a good first impression ... color option is also a good thing ....alloys look good (were very much required) ... and the headlight treatment is good as well ...

just want to get behind the wheels ASAP ...

wait for a couple of months ... and just go ahead and buy it after that ....

Thanks to all the enthusiasts over here .... especially STEEROID ...I think he deserved a special thanks from all of us ....

metallica · 4th August 2005, 00:06

The Tata Motors website is getting updated at this very moment ... I think it should be complete in about 2 hours time ....

Keep Hitting ...

nishant_kingpin · 4th August 2005, 07:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by metallica

The Tata Motors website is getting updated at this very moment ... I think it should be complete in about 2 hours time ....

Keep Hitting ...

Nope not updated till now. And I could not get any colour options.

Vulken Auto · 4th August 2005, 13:41

Ok i couldnt find any thing diffferent from the out goin model, but the engine is very responsive. Unfortunate the gear box hasnt changed, explains 8.7 lks price on road instead of 8.4 lks for previous model. gears ratios have been changed and is real good in city drives. I am sold for the lower end one . i thnk its value for money, and im buying it soon.the higher end one is real good with ABS ,AIR BAGS, ALLOY WHEELS, COLOURED PANELS, LCD SCREENS DVD PLAYER AND REVERSE GEAR CAMER .The cheap plastic is ON the down side and also the roof A/C blowers leaking water when air humid.

prices on hyd road

lx 4x2 - 8.76
lx 4x4 - 9.88
Ex 4x2- 10.39
Ex 4x4 - 11.36
vx 4x2 - 13.19
vx 4x4 - 14.24

My view vx waste value, get a crv instead or a tuscon
ex little bit over priced but comes with abs and airbags
lx good value for money , down side no abs still im buying it

LandCruiser · 4th August 2005, 13:54

Saw the ad in today's paper. The safari looks cool and has little bit of forrester like front looks. very little though! mostly because of the headlamps i guess.

3rd August 2005, 18:26	#121
metallica BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 134 Thanked: 13 Times	Speedfreak ..thanks for the pics .. I dont think anyone needs to 'guess' about the car .... Anymore ..do send them across.
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3rd August 2005, 18:44	#122
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	the news is out on rediff- the price range of the new safari (as quoted by rediff) is 7.83-12.70. here's the link.... NEW SAFARI no specs, though- or pics...... as the car has been launched today, further details should be out by tomorrow, or the day after- at the most. i'm keeping my fingers crossed- i hope the powerplant has at least 130 horses...and 260nm.... edit: another site has the detailed info- here's the link- NEW SAFARI 115 bhp....i'm a li'l disappointed....but 300nm....hmmm....all comments reserved till the test drive.... Last edited by veyron1 : 3rd August 2005 at 18:48.
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3rd August 2005, 20:48	#125
SUV BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: BLR Posts: 256 Thanked: 3 Times	Specs Update Engine : Type : Direct Injection Common Rail Capacity (cc) 2956 Max. Output (PS) at rpm 115 @ 3000 Max. Torque (Nm) at rpm 300 @ 1600-2000 It does not say TC anywhere ... I really wonder if this is Turbo Charged .. Cos just a 15 BHP Increase after using Common Rail kind of sounds funny for a TC'd 3 ltr DI But the rest of the specs are class apart depending on how long they are to-gether :-) Check : http://uv.tatamotors.com/newuv/index.asp# its updated with the DiCor specs
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3rd August 2005, 21:15	#128
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	Has to be a turbo. Common Rails dont work withou turbos.
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3rd August 2005, 22:38	#129
turbo_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,377 Thanked: 9 Times	off topic ...just want to confirm .. the palio 1.9D is not a common rail ..right ?
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3rd August 2005, 22:48	#130
vivek.singh.73 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Noida Posts: 256 Thanked: 32 Times	nah- it isn't, Fiat is yet to introduce CRDI engine in India :-(, I don't think they have in them to run a car company in India..too bad
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4th August 2005, 00:02	#131
metallica BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 134 Thanked: 13 Times	...........of whatever little there is on the Tata Motors website , it definitely makes a good first impression ... color option is also a good thing ....alloys look good (were very much required) ... and the headlight treatment is good as well ... just want to get behind the wheels ASAP ... wait for a couple of months ... and just go ahead and buy it after that .... Thanks to all the enthusiasts over here .... especially STEEROID ...I think he deserved a special thanks from all of us ....
	() Thanks

4th August 2005, 00:06	#132
metallica BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 134 Thanked: 13 Times	The Tata Motors website is getting updated at this very moment ... I think it should be complete in about 2 hours time .... Keep Hitting ...
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4th August 2005, 13:41	#134
Vulken Auto BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: . Posts: 545 Thanked: 263 Times	Test Drove one Ok i couldnt find any thing diffferent from the out goin model, but the engine is very responsive. Unfortunate the gear box hasnt changed, explains 8.7 lks price on road instead of 8.4 lks for previous model. gears ratios have been changed and is real good in city drives. I am sold for the lower end one . i thnk its value for money, and im buying it soon.the higher end one is real good with ABS ,AIR BAGS, ALLOY WHEELS, COLOURED PANELS, LCD SCREENS DVD PLAYER AND REVERSE GEAR CAMER .The cheap plastic is ON the down side and also the roof A/C blowers leaking water when air humid. prices on hyd road lx 4x2 - 8.76 lx 4x4 - 9.88 Ex 4x2- 10.39 Ex 4x4 - 11.36 vx 4x2 - 13.19 vx 4x4 - 14.24 My view vx waste value, get a crv instead or a tuscon ex little bit over priced but comes with abs and airbags lx good value for money , down side no abs still im buying it
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4th August 2005, 13:54	#135
LandCruiser BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 712 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	Saw the ad in today's paper. The safari looks cool and has little bit of forrester like front looks. very little though! mostly because of the headlamps i guess.
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