Hyundai i20 Diesel and 1.4 petrol EDIT: Now Launched..!!!

nkapoor777 · 10th July 2009, 01:34

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Originally Posted by theMAG

Hyundai does not seem too intent to sell the i20 CRDi. They've been very silent about its launch - like during the Getz CRDi launch. Not a single adverstisement.

Either that, or they've lost interest in the Indian market.

Its none of that.

Primary reason is production constraints. The only factory worldwide manufacturing i20 is here in India and it primarily caters to the export demand. Already there is a waiting period of 8-10 weeks, if Hyundai started the advertising and promotions and the demand picked up, they will end up with egg on their faces since the waiting period will go through the roof.

kanwal · 10th July 2009, 01:58

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Originally Posted by nkapoor777

Its none of that.

Primary reason is production constraints. The only factory worldwide manufacturing i20 is here in India and it primarily caters to the export demand. Already there is a waiting period of 8-10 weeks, if Hyundai started the advertising and promotions and the demand picked up, they will end up with egg on their faces since the waiting period will go through the roof.

Arreey!! What a noble reason ?? I doubt if it is really what Hyundai thinking. They might have not launched it even, if they think that they will not be able to meet the demand. Thats what i would expect from a mature, well established company.

(on a lighter note) I think the reason is that because SRK is busy these days they are not able to shoot the commercial

muneemmk · 10th July 2009, 02:20

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Originally Posted by ashwinpak

1.6 Sport at 4L on road? I would like to buy two. I am sure you are talking about the Stile 1.1

Well,don't wish too much you might just get it,just sent a mail to fiat asking for a dozen 1.6 Sport and u might get the cars at an even better deal.Trust Me.

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Originally Posted by amit

We can keep arguing over the prices for the rest of our lives but the past few launches of Hyundai show that they are trying to position their cars higher then Maruti , Tata and Fiat cars.

Why not ? Hyundai has better build quality than Tata or Maruti, has better resale value than Ford,Chevy or Fiat, has a competent A S S (not as good as Maruti,but it's good enough),yes they can charge a premium and get away with it,if Honda and Toyota can why can't Hyundai ?

devarshi84 · 10th July 2009, 04:30

The essence in the market is not about how high a company can price it's car and get away with it.

The essence is to give the customer the best while still making a profit.

Skoda started it with fabia in the hot hatch segment, Honda won it and I20 is just following it up.

I'd be better off buying the indica vista and kitting it up instead with a bluetooth enabled navigation system with stereo controls on steering wheels and 15" alloys at 5 lacs.

vasoo · 10th July 2009, 08:53

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Originally Posted by tanwaramit

+1, I was so anxious that I did jugaad to get the passes for the launch at Delhi. But once I saw the Slide of Prices, my hopes were cut.

It makes more sense to buy a used corolla AT.

Exactly. I was checking the Hyundai UK site and the price difference between a comparable trim level of 1.2 petrol and 1.4petrol AT was just GBP 1400. This translates roughly to about Rs 1.1 lacs at current exchange rate. Even adding up the duty difference, it should not be more than 1.5 lacs. But on road price here is higher by 2+ lacs which is atrocious. Its good that I have decided to buy a used Civic AT instead.

pmbabu · 10th July 2009, 09:30

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Originally Posted by theMAG

Hyundai does not seem too intent to sell the i20 CRDi. They've been very silent about its launch - like during the Getz CRDi launch. Not a single adverstisement.

Either that, or they've lost interest in the Indian market.

Today's Times of India, Bangalore carries a half page advt.

prnvaa · 10th July 2009, 09:31

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Originally Posted by vasoo

Exactly. I was checking the Hyundai UK site and the price difference between a comparable trim level of 1.2 petrol and 1.4petrol AT was just GBP 1400. This translates roughly to about Rs 1.1 lacs at current exchange rate. Even adding up the duty difference, it should not be more than 1.5 lacs. But on road price here is higher by 2+ lacs which is atrocious. Its good that I have decided to buy a used Civic AT instead.

Well am not trying to defend the i20 and its pricing - but you'll get MUCH better value while buying a 2nd hand car at all times. This could be true while buying a Maruti 800 or a S-Class Merc. Though obviously the trouble with 2nd hand cars is that you need to be 100% sure that you're not buying a lemon.

What you need to decide first is whether you want a 2nd hand car or a brand new car...

And also - according to the Hyundai i20 UK site, prices are between GBP 6.8k to 10k; which roughly means 6 lacs - 9 lacs ex-showroom; not that much between UK & India prices in that case.

~Pranav

h@r$h@l · 10th July 2009, 10:25

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Originally Posted by Nuts4wheels

Guyz...
I went to the dealer Concept Hyundai already(right now on a trip in Ahdbd) after seeing the ad... he says that it is a typo error in his ad and the real price is Rs. 6.33 lakhs....

Also, he made it clear that this is his own ad and not Hyundai release...

Thats exactly what is published in TOI today. Find the news clipping below. The price is infact 6.39 and not 5.96 as advertised yesterday.

hiren.mistry · 10th July 2009, 11:16

I can't wrap my head over the fact that Hyundai decided to launch the 1.4 petrol only in automatic guise. Why not a manual?

If they had then, they could have easily priced it 40-50K lower. Missed opportunity there I feel.

I was all set to buy the 1.4 asta petrol but then the pricing has put it way beyong my budget.

sigh!!

amit · 10th July 2009, 11:31

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Originally Posted by muneemmk

Why not ? Hyundai has better build quality than Tata or Maruti, has better resale value than Ford,Chevy or Fiat, has a competent A S S (not as good as Maruti,but it's good enough),yes they can charge a premium and get away with it,if Honda and Toyota can why can't Hyundai ?

The statement I made was my personal observation based on Hyundai's pricing of their recent launches and not intended to start a discussion on whether they can command a premium or not. Let's not get so touchy about this.

ashishgandhi_00 · 10th July 2009, 12:29

Hi ppl,

if one visits the hyundai website for prices (i did it for Mumbai), it says 'introductory prices'. does that mean hyundai plans to increase it prices in a few weks / months (just like Linea). this will kill this already overpriced car....

ashishgandhi_00 · 10th July 2009, 13:02

hey all,

probably off topic, but what do you feel abt the i20 1.4 petrol AT version? isnt it a decent car with loads of goodies, very good engine and ofcourse AT. The downside would be:

- Price - Mumbai onroad for 1.4 Asta AT is around 8.5 lacs, which is more than the top end petrol variants of SX4 and Linea. what was hyundai thinking when it set the prices. Agreed it is a auto tranny, but still a hatch expensive than a sedan is disastrous
- FE - i read that i10 AT gives an FE of around 6-7 in city driving. not sure what the new 1.4 gamma engine is capable of, but generally AT results in lower FE. Thats why AT is generally preferred in deisels

TeddyBear · 10th July 2009, 15:52

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Originally Posted by ashishgandhi_00

hey all,

probably off topic, but what do you feel abt the i20 1.4 petrol AT version? isnt it a decent car with loads of goodies, very good engine and ofcourse AT. The downside would be:

- Price - Mumbai onroad for 1.4 Asta AT is around 8.5 lacs, which is more than the top end petrol variants of SX4 and Linea. what was hyundai thinking when it set the prices. Agreed it is a auto tranny, but still a hatch expensive than a sedan is disastrous
- FE - i read that i10 AT gives an FE of around 6-7 in city driving. not sure what the new 1.4 gamma engine is capable of, but generally AT results in lower FE. Thats why AT is generally preferred in deisels

In Bangalore On road price.
Magna diesel with ABS = 7.36 L
Asta diesel = 8.11 L
Asta diesel with sunroof = 8.54 L
Asta AT (Petrol) with Sunroof = 9.5 L
It is expensive

manish7 · 10th July 2009, 16:21

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Originally Posted by TeddyBear

In Bangalore On road price.
Magna diesel with ABS = 7.36 L
Asta diesel = 8.11 L
Asta diesel with sunroof = 8.54 L
Asta AT (Petrol) with Sunroof = 9.5 L
It is expensive

It's an understatement to say that it is expensive, the pricing is atrocious!!! So middle level Asta D is 90K more than GP E+, I am not sure if it's worth the premium they are asking for it. In fact Magna with ABS itself is more expensive than GP D E+ and that is really ridiculous.

Gilead · 10th July 2009, 16:29

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Originally Posted by h@r$h@l

Thats exactly what is published in TOI today. Find the news clipping below. The price is infact 6.39 and not 5.96 as advertised yesterday.

Can you imagine the talk Hyundai must have had with the dealer for this error. Wont be surprised if the dealer is still walking funny.

10th July 2009, 04:30	#529
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	The essence in the market is not about how high a company can price it's car and get away with it. The essence is to give the customer the best while still making a profit. Skoda started it with fabia in the hot hatch segment, Honda won it and I20 is just following it up. I'd be better off buying the indica vista and kitting it up instead with a bluetooth enabled navigation system with stereo controls on steering wheels and 15" alloys at 5 lacs.
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hiren.mistry Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bombay, London Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 996 Times	No manual I can't wrap my head over the fact that Hyundai decided to launch the 1.4 petrol only in automatic guise. Why not a manual? If they had then, they could have easily priced it 40-50K lower. Missed opportunity there I feel. I was all set to buy the 1.4 asta petrol but then the pricing has put it way beyong my budget. sigh!! Last edited by hiren.mistry : 10th July 2009 at 11:26.
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10th July 2009, 12:29	#536
ashishgandhi_00 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 200 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi ppl, if one visits the hyundai website for prices (i did it for Mumbai), it says 'introductory prices'. does that mean hyundai plans to increase it prices in a few weks / months (just like Linea). this will kill this already overpriced car....
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10th July 2009, 13:02	#537
ashishgandhi_00 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 200 Thanked: 0 Times	hey all, probably off topic, but what do you feel abt the i20 1.4 petrol AT version? isnt it a decent car with loads of goodies, very good engine and ofcourse AT. The downside would be: - Price - Mumbai onroad for 1.4 Asta AT is around 8.5 lacs, which is more than the top end petrol variants of SX4 and Linea. what was hyundai thinking when it set the prices. Agreed it is a auto tranny, but still a hatch expensive than a sedan is disastrous - FE - i read that i10 AT gives an FE of around 6-7 in city driving. not sure what the new 1.4 gamma engine is capable of, but generally AT results in lower FE. Thats why AT is generally preferred in deisels
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