Audi launches A4's 5th engine option, 1.8T

sidindica · 9th May 2009, 20:55

seems the same 1.8 tsi 160 bhp superb petrol motor is now there in the A4, priced at Rs 27,12,000 ex-showroom Delhi.

so the range with the basic ex-delhi price is:

A4 1.8 T FSI- RS 27,12,000
A4 2.0 T FSI- RS 29,09,000
A4 3.2 FSI QUATTRO- RS 36,11,000
A4 2.0 TDI- RS 29,09,000
A4 3.0 TDI QUATTRO- RS 37,09,000

FlyingSpur · 9th May 2009, 20:57

I'm wondering how much sense it makes to have the 1.8 and the 2.0 petrols on offer side by side. Are you sure the new powerplant has been added to and not replaced the 2.0T in the line-up?

jkdas · 9th May 2009, 21:05

A 2lac difference just for the engine? Nice price though.

sidindica · 9th May 2009, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingspur

I'm wondering how much sense it makes to have the 1.8 and the 2.0 petrols on offer side by side. Are you sure the new powerplant has been added to and not replaced the 2.0T in the line-up?

according to the latest price list, this is it.

pranava999 · 9th May 2009, 21:55

why a 2 lakh price difference? 1 lakh per 100cc ??

Caramelo · 9th May 2009, 22:06

hey guys just curious. does the 1.8 ltr engine speced audi A4 has MMI? and stuff like that. what are the standard goodies. i am just curious.

theragingbull · 9th May 2009, 22:24

The 1.8T is priced competitively.It'll sell no doubt. But for a pure car enthusiast, the A4 3.2FSI QUATTRO will be the ultimate choice!

FlyingSpur · 9th May 2009, 23:21

It should sell rather well then. The price was the biggest factor working against the A4 becoming a sales success. Hopefully after ironing out any reliability issues and coupled with Audi secure, the A4 should now be an attractive and sensible proposition.

neeld · 9th May 2009, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

seems the same 1.8 tsi 160 bhp superb petrol motor is now there in the A4, priced at Rs 27,12,000 ex-showroom Delhi.

so the range with the basic ex-delhi price is:

A4 1.8 T FSI- RS 27,12,000

Same engine as the Superb @ Rs 7,00,000 Premium

than the Skoda

.

anekho · 9th May 2009, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by neeld

Same engine as the Superb @ Rs 7,00,000 Premium

than the Skoda

.

"only" difference is end quality. Definately worth the premium IMO.

cheers

avishar · 10th May 2009, 01:34

Skoda is not equal to Audi,so i guess the 7 lakh premium is VFM.But as someone mentioned is this a stripped down version?

deuce-deuce · 11th May 2009, 05:05

To be honest, I don't see the point of the 3.2. Less torque than the 2.0 Tfsi and a fair bit heavier. Sure, it's got 50ish hp more than the four-banger but it doesn't make a difference in the real world. It's also just half a second quicker to 60. Just test drove it recently and absolutely loved the 2.0. In any case, the bigger engine is being discontinued in the A4 here in the states.
The disappointing thing is that the 2.0 for the Indian market makes 180 hp. Does anyone know why that is? Compression ratio? I don't buy the argument about fuel quality because the 3.2 makes the full 265 hp it makes everywhere else. IMO, the best variant is the 2.0 Quattro with the 6 speed stick like it's being sold here.

GTO · 11th May 2009, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

A4 1.8 T FSI- RS 27,12,000
A4 2.0 T FSI- RS 29,09,000
A4 3.2 FSI QUATTRO- RS 36,11,000
A4 2.0 TDI- RS 29,09,000
A4 3.0 TDI QUATTRO- RS 37,09,000

What's the point in having so many engines? With Audi's habit of continually changing existing engines and offering new ones, it creates confusion in the minds of the customer. Heck, I am confused myself!

It would be in their interest to decide on the most suitable engines and then focus their marketing exercises on the same. Look at Merc & BMW, they've stuck to the same engine range since launch and it's worked out just fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce-deuce

To be honest, I don't see the point of the 3.2. Less torque than the 2.0 Tfsi and a fair bit heavier.

The 3.2FSI is a great drivers car, but pretty pointless with its 50 lakh rupee price tag. The BMW 530D is priced about the same; a car better in almost every aspect.

Screwdriva · 11th May 2009, 15:36

Makes sense to me, really. More production = volume cost savings. Since they've already got a 2 month waiting list on the Superb, my guess is they have excess engines stockpiled that will fit the A4 engine bay without too much fuss.

The 1.8T will make the A4 more frugal and more inexpensive to buy/own compared to the other engines. What really sweetens the deal is that awesome 7Speed DSG box that they will no doubt also include.

At around 30 Lacs, its still ludicrous...especially when you can get a Superb for 10 lacs less! But if you're determined on the 4 rings, then I'd go with this engine/ tranny combo.

Vid6639 · 11th May 2009, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwdriva

Makes sense to me, really. More production = volume cost savings. Since they've already got a 2 month waiting list on the Superb, my guess is they have excess engines stockpiled that will fit the A4 engine bay without too much fuss.

AFAIK, VW does not share anything with Skoda in India. They are 2 separate entities. Although the same parent company they operate as 2 independant companies here.

So effectively Skoda India are not related to VW india. I doubt they share the same engine stocks.

9th May 2009, 20:55	#1
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,892 Thanked: 8,106 Times	Audi launches A4's 5th engine option, 1.8T seems the same 1.8 tsi 160 bhp superb petrol motor is now there in the A4, priced at Rs 27,12,000 ex-showroom Delhi. so the range with the basic ex-delhi price is: A4 1.8 T FSI- RS 27,12,000 A4 2.0 T FSI- RS 29,09,000 A4 3.2 FSI QUATTRO- RS 36,11,000 A4 2.0 TDI- RS 29,09,000 A4 3.0 TDI QUATTRO- RS 37,09,000
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9th May 2009, 20:57	#2
FlyingSpur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,934 Thanked: 1,422 Times View My Garage	I'm wondering how much sense it makes to have the 1.8 and the 2.0 petrols on offer side by side. Are you sure the new powerplant has been added to and not replaced the 2.0T in the line-up?
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9th May 2009, 21:05	#3
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	A 2lac difference just for the engine? Nice price though.
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pranava999 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 845 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	why a 2 lakh price difference? 1 lakh per 100cc ??
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9th May 2009, 22:06	#6
Caramelo BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ahmedabad Posts: 769 Thanked: 16 Times	hey guys just curious. does the 1.8 ltr engine speced audi A4 has MMI? and stuff like that. what are the standard goodies. i am just curious.
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9th May 2009, 22:24	#7
theragingbull Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,601 Thanked: 646 Times View My Garage	The 1.8T is priced competitively.It'll sell no doubt. But for a pure car enthusiast, the A4 3.2FSI QUATTRO will be the ultimate choice!
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9th May 2009, 23:21	#8
FlyingSpur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,934 Thanked: 1,422 Times View My Garage	It should sell rather well then. The price was the biggest factor working against the A4 becoming a sales success. Hopefully after ironing out any reliability issues and coupled with Audi secure, the A4 should now be an attractive and sensible proposition.
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10th May 2009, 01:34	#11
avishar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: kolkata/bangalore,india Posts: 2,901 Thanked: 4,143 Times	Skoda is not equal to Audi,so i guess the 7 lakh premium is VFM.But as someone mentioned is this a stripped down version?
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11th May 2009, 05:05	#12
deuce-deuce BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 39 Thanked: 5 Times	To be honest, I don't see the point of the 3.2. Less torque than the 2.0 Tfsi and a fair bit heavier. Sure, it's got 50ish hp more than the four-banger but it doesn't make a difference in the real world. It's also just half a second quicker to 60. Just test drove it recently and absolutely loved the 2.0. In any case, the bigger engine is being discontinued in the A4 here in the states. The disappointing thing is that the 2.0 for the Indian market makes 180 hp. Does anyone know why that is? Compression ratio? I don't buy the argument about fuel quality because the 3.2 makes the full 265 hp it makes everywhere else. IMO, the best variant is the 2.0 Quattro with the 6 speed stick like it's being sold here.
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11th May 2009, 15:36	#14
Screwdriva BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London/ Bombay Posts: 582 Thanked: 527 Times View My Garage	Mass Production Makes sense to me, really. More production = volume cost savings. Since they've already got a 2 month waiting list on the Superb, my guess is they have excess engines stockpiled that will fit the A4 engine bay without too much fuss. The 1.8T will make the A4 more frugal and more inexpensive to buy/own compared to the other engines. What really sweetens the deal is that awesome 7Speed DSG box that they will no doubt also include. At around 30 Lacs, its still ludicrous...especially when you can get a Superb for 10 lacs less! But if you're determined on the 4 rings, then I'd go with this engine/ tranny combo.
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