Toyota Finally Launching The Land Cruiser,Fortuner,Altis LE,Camry MMC

aaggoswami · 18th May 2009, 18:56

Certainly good news considering the present range of products they have on offer.
But rather than coming up with a Rs. 90 lakh diesel SUV, they must consider upgrading the present prado they have. In UK, Toyota sells the prado with a smaller diesel heart, and offers the 200 series as V8 Landcruiser. Its going to be quite tough for Toyota to compete with Audi Q7 and Mercedes-Benz or BMW in this case. All the three brands are strong luxury brands and Toyota is not a strong brand in that segment.

But Toyota will have a bigger heart and more power as compared to all the three brands. I hope Mercedes brings in its diesel V8 and Audi also comes up with its V8 diesel Q7.

As of now Toyota will have a heart advantage over others, but the competition has got better luxury image.

About Camry, in US they upgraded the engine to 2.5 ltrs. Toyota must bring in this motor in India. They can also consider local production of this car, then they can compete with Honda better.

avishar · 18th May 2009, 22:33

The new LC200 doesnt look good at all, with that bulbous front it looks clumsy.
Toyota should focus more on getting the Fortuner in the market as fast as possible and a c-segment sedan to counter the City.

cooldude1988765 · 19th May 2009, 20:36

Modified LC here

Sahil · 19th May 2009, 20:40

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Originally Posted by cooldude1988765

Modified LC here

Damn, that is hot! Love the quad exhausts and fog lamps.

vinaydas · 20th May 2009, 20:08

strange i just found this
Upcoming cars in India - DriveInside.com
may it seams that the diesel altis will make it here

muneemmk · 20th May 2009, 21:02

@ Vinaydas , most of the info given in that link seems a little hard to digest and some are totally incorrect.

cooldude1988765 · 20th May 2009, 21:52

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Originally Posted by vinaydas

strange i just found this
Upcoming cars in India - DriveInside.com
may it seams that the diesel altis will make it here

That would be a dream come true/

Yeldo · 22nd May 2009, 22:38

Well, it would be great if Toyota starts to sell 200 series Land Cruisers here officially, but why are not they offering it in any of the other South/ East Asian markets, save for Brunei, the Philippines and Pakistan?

I'm now starting to have doubts whether the entire issue of Diesel LC was confused with a probable launch of the Prado Diesel.

akj53 · 23rd May 2009, 08:02

I fail to understand Toyota's reluctance in producing / assembling cars in India. When Merc / BMW / Audi can assemble their low volume cars here, why cant Toyota do it?
Or is it because they dont see India as a serious market and dont want to invest here. Price of Camry. LC and Fortuner can drop substantially if they start local assembly and consequently sales will also rise. If the Camry is available in 17-18 lac bracket, Imagine the effect it will have on sales of Accord, Superb & Laura L&K.

I enjoyed the Desert Safari in Dubai in a LC Prado. The vehicle was driving on steep sand dunes & in deep sand effortlessly and was simply amazing. The driver told me that no other vehicle is cosnidered fit for Desert Safari. Still they last for about 4 lac KMs on such a tortureous terrain.

In India LC's will hardly ever do off roading and will mostly be a status symbol.
But still newer vehicles from Toyota are welcome and atleast Toyota India seem to be waking up.

amit · 23rd May 2009, 16:02

Wouldn't a 1.4L diesel engine be too small for a car the size and price of a Corolla Altis?

Vid6639 · 23rd May 2009, 16:12

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Originally Posted by amit

Wouldn't a 1.4L diesel engine be too small for a car the size and price of a Corolla Altis?

Well it's 88bhp and 190Nm of torque. I guess performance will be on par with Laura/Octavia since the Altis will be much more lighter than the Skodas.

0-62mph is supposed to be around 12secs.

Toyota ND engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MexXxentric · 23rd May 2009, 16:23

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Originally Posted by akj53

The driver told me that no other vehicle is cosnidered fit for Desert Safari. Still they last for about 4 lac KMs on such a tortureous terrain.

Its not true.LC 4500s are the favorite ones for desert tour agencies. but Nissan Patrols rule the dunes.Especially the SWB 2 door ones.
LCs (automatic) run for 2 lacs trouble free.with little overhauling it will go for a couple lacs more.

4x4addict · 23rd May 2009, 17:39

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Originally Posted by MexXxentric

Its not true.LC 4500s are the favorite ones for desert tour agencies. but Nissan Patrols rule the dunes.Especially the SWB 2 door ones.

The desert safari that I was in was pretty much 90% Land Cruisers.

vinaydas · 23rd May 2009, 18:08

nothing worse than having a vehicle failure 500 kms from the last human settlement.
thats why toyota's prevail. Nothing i mean Nothing beats bullet proof reliability.

Caramelo · 23rd May 2009, 20:58

what toyota should do. make camry ckd and LC also ckd. and pit that against the accord and x5s and Q7s. sporty carolla is cool too.

18th May 2009, 18:56	#16
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,982 Thanked: 2,930 Times	Certainly good news considering the present range of products they have on offer. But rather than coming up with a Rs. 90 lakh diesel SUV, they must consider upgrading the present prado they have. In UK, Toyota sells the prado with a smaller diesel heart, and offers the 200 series as V8 Landcruiser. Its going to be quite tough for Toyota to compete with Audi Q7 and Mercedes-Benz or BMW in this case. All the three brands are strong luxury brands and Toyota is not a strong brand in that segment. But Toyota will have a bigger heart and more power as compared to all the three brands. I hope Mercedes brings in its diesel V8 and Audi also comes up with its V8 diesel Q7. As of now Toyota will have a heart advantage over others, but the competition has got better luxury image. About Camry, in US they upgraded the engine to 2.5 ltrs. Toyota must bring in this motor in India. They can also consider local production of this car, then they can compete with Honda better.
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avishar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: kolkata/bangalore,india Posts: 2,901 Thanked: 4,142 Times	The new LC200 doesnt look good at all, with that bulbous front it looks clumsy. Toyota should focus more on getting the Fortuner in the market as fast as possible and a c-segment sedan to counter the City.
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vinaydas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,399 Thanked: 148 Times	strange i just found this Upcoming cars in India - DriveInside.com may it seams that the diesel altis will make it here
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muneemmk BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 832 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	@ Vinaydas , most of the info given in that link seems a little hard to digest and some are totally incorrect.
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Yeldo BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kochi Posts: 764 Thanked: 783 Times	Well, it would be great if Toyota starts to sell 200 series Land Cruisers here officially, but why are not they offering it in any of the other South/ East Asian markets, save for Brunei, the Philippines and Pakistan? I'm now starting to have doubts whether the entire issue of Diesel LC was confused with a probable launch of the Prado Diesel. Last edited by Yeldo : 22nd May 2009 at 22:44.
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akj53 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOIDA, Manchester & Cardiff Posts: 585 Thanked: 92 Times	I fail to understand Toyota's reluctance in producing / assembling cars in India. When Merc / BMW / Audi can assemble their low volume cars here, why cant Toyota do it? Or is it because they dont see India as a serious market and dont want to invest here. Price of Camry. LC and Fortuner can drop substantially if they start local assembly and consequently sales will also rise. If the Camry is available in 17-18 lac bracket, Imagine the effect it will have on sales of Accord, Superb & Laura L&K. I enjoyed the Desert Safari in Dubai in a LC Prado. The vehicle was driving on steep sand dunes & in deep sand effortlessly and was simply amazing. The driver told me that no other vehicle is cosnidered fit for Desert Safari. Still they last for about 4 lac KMs on such a tortureous terrain. In India LC's will hardly ever do off roading and will mostly be a status symbol. But still newer vehicles from Toyota are welcome and atleast Toyota India seem to be waking up.
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amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 449 Times	Wouldn't a 1.4L diesel engine be too small for a car the size and price of a Corolla Altis?
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vinaydas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,399 Thanked: 148 Times	nothing worse than having a vehicle failure 500 kms from the last human settlement. thats why toyota's prevail. Nothing i mean Nothing beats bullet proof reliability.
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Caramelo BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ahmedabad Posts: 769 Thanked: 16 Times	what toyota should do. make camry ckd and LC also ckd. and pit that against the accord and x5s and Q7s. sporty carolla is cool too.
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