Problems With My Civic And Honda Does Not Care

alankarm@sancha · 23rd June 2009, 08:47

I have Goodyear Eagles tyres right now, which tyres should I use now, as they are coming due in a month or two. Dealership is suggesting Michelin or Bridgestone. Why not MRF? (Remember that I am in Rajasthan). Type nos. too if possible.

sgiitk · 23rd June 2009, 09:36

Why only Honda. Any dealer with a monopoly can easily become a menace to his customers. He has nothing to fear.

alankarm@sancha · 24th June 2009, 16:49

Any suggestions for the tyres??

alankarm@sancha · 29th June 2009, 23:43

TYRES?? what to buy?

aaggoswami · 30th June 2009, 08:35

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Originally Posted by alankarm@sancha

TYRES?? what to buy?

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Originally Posted by alankarm@sancha

Any suggestions for the tyres??

Post your queries about tyres here in the tyre section :
Tyre & Alloy wheel Section - Team-BHP

indivic · 30th June 2009, 10:33

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Originally Posted by alankarm@sancha

TYRES?? what to buy?

If you are not into upsizing, go in either for Bridgestones or Michelin, both are now OE with Honda so you will not have any issues with warranty.

Mine has Bridgestone B250 and they have good grip in all conditions, I guess the newer Civics get the Michelin XM stuff as well.

alankarm@sancha · 8th July 2009, 08:16

Letter to Honda 1to1

Dear Sir/Ma'am,

I have AGAIN been faced by another problem in my Civic. This is a problem occurring for the last 4-5 days now.

When I twist the key for ignition, the LED display starts blinking and then goes blank. Also there is no ignition. On retrying and maybe holding the key pressed at the ignition end for some time, the engine starts, with a laboured noise, as if it is requiring a lot of effort to start.

This is similar to what was happened once or twice before my P/S belt tensioner and belt gave problems.

This is NOT happening every time I start the car, but only some times.

I request you to please get the problem rectified immediately. I have tried to contact the dealers Mr. Vinod yesterday, but to no avail.

The above is the letter by me to Honda again.

Now tell me friends, what am I supposed to do? Can someone PLEASE give me the direct contacts of Honda Motors, Japan and the Chairman/MD of their co. in India?

S@~+#0$# · 8th July 2009, 08:59

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Originally Posted by alankarm@sancha

When I twist the key for ignition, the LED display starts blinking and then goes blank. Also there is no ignition. On retrying and maybe holding the key pressed at the ignition end for some time, the engine starts, with a laboured noise, as if it is requiring a lot of effort to start.

The symptoms tell me that this is a an issue with the battery.

Check if battery wires are fastened properly
Disconnect negative terminal wire first, then positive
Clean any electrolyte deposits thoroughly
Apply vaseline on both terminals
Connect positive, then negative
Fasten the bolts tightly
Crank your car, it should start if problem was battery

I faced the same symptoms recently on my Civic when I upgraded to a newer battery myself. I was

. I had tried starting without fully tightening the battery wire clamps intentionally as I was eager to know if the new battery had sufficient charge to crank. The problem was resolved after following steps listed above.

OT: I upgraded to a 60A battery (OEM is 46A??) which is less than an inch more in width and I must say thhe civic engine bay is cramped and there is absolutely no space for any add-ons. Nothing that a DIY cannot fix:

Removed few OEM parts like battery cover, plastic bottom plate
Fabricated my own battery cover and bottom plate using polycarbonate sheet
Installed bottom plate and then place battery on it
Found negative wire to be of lesser length, so relocate the negative wire (earth point) to a location that was closer (top radiator cross member)
Work pending is to fabricate longer battery clamp in aluminium (DIY).

cruiser_1982 · 8th July 2009, 09:07

Man, problems in your Civic again ???

looks like you are so unfortunate and is stuck with a 'H' badged Lemon.

alankarm@sancha · 8th July 2009, 09:36

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Originally Posted by S@~+#0$#

OT: I upgraded to a 60A battery (OEM is 46A??) which is less than an inch more in width and I must say thhe civic engine bay is cramped and there is absolutely no space for any add-ons. Nothing that a DIY cannot fix:

Why are you using a 60A battery instead of 46A OEM? Any advantages or problems?

S@~+#0$# · 8th July 2009, 09:50

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Originally Posted by alankarm@sancha

Why are you using a 60A battery instead of 46A OEM? Any advantages or problems?

The OEM battery went dead (it hasn't even been 2 years

). I have some ICE plans for the civic, so decided to upgrade.

HappyWheels · 8th July 2009, 10:07

Change the battery and give Honda to blame the next failure on the "un-authorised" modification?

Don't think it is a good idea.

sgiitk · 8th July 2009, 10:20

We are all over the place, blaming everything from Alpha to Omega.

Has he checked and tightened the terminals? I see no feedback on this.

Jaggu · 8th July 2009, 10:27

First check the battery terminals, clean and tighten them if required.

Do check the battery condition also, easy DIY is to switch ON head light and cabin light and crank, if the cabin light dies off or fades very low, there is problem with battery. Do this after the connection is checked at the terminal.

S@~+#0$# · 8th July 2009, 10:59

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

We are all over the place, blaming everything from Alpha to Omega.
Has he checked and tightened the terminals? I see no feedback on this.

Yup, even I was thinking the same. Let us know.

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Originally Posted by HappyWheels

Change the battery and give Honda to blame the next failure on the "un-authorised" modification?

Don't think it is a good idea.

I know what you are saying. Isn't it funny how the Honda warranty works?

Yet, I like to personalise my car as I am never happy with stock. I would rather not own a Honda than be so paranoid about making such so-called "un-authorised" modifications.

Come to think of it, alankarm has never made any mods, yet Honda has not been able to help him in the past (see his old posts). I breached the Honda warranty by putting 17 inch wheels and tyres on the Day 2 of purchase. So, I can't be bothered.

It also helps to be friendly with the Service Center guys

23rd June 2009, 08:47	#76
alankarm@sancha BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ajmer / Mumbai Posts: 210 Thanked: 3 Times	I have Goodyear Eagles tyres right now, which tyres should I use now, as they are coming due in a month or two. Dealership is suggesting Michelin or Bridgestone. Why not MRF? (Remember that I am in Rajasthan). Type nos. too if possible. Last edited by alankarm@sancha : 23rd June 2009 at 08:49.
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sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,787 Times	Why only Honda. Any dealer with a monopoly can easily become a menace to his customers. He has nothing to fear.
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alankarm@sancha BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ajmer / Mumbai Posts: 210 Thanked: 3 Times	Any suggestions for the tyres??
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alankarm@sancha BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ajmer / Mumbai Posts: 210 Thanked: 3 Times	Problems again in my CIVIC Letter to Honda 1to1 Dear Sir/Ma'am, I have AGAIN been faced by another problem in my Civic. This is a problem occurring for the last 4-5 days now. When I twist the key for ignition, the LED display starts blinking and then goes blank. Also there is no ignition. On retrying and maybe holding the key pressed at the ignition end for some time, the engine starts, with a laboured noise, as if it is requiring a lot of effort to start. This is similar to what was happened once or twice before my P/S belt tensioner and belt gave problems. This is NOT happening every time I start the car, but only some times. I request you to please get the problem rectified immediately. I have tried to contact the dealers Mr. Vinod yesterday, but to no avail. The above is the letter by me to Honda again. Now tell me friends, what am I supposed to do? Can someone PLEASE give me the direct contacts of Honda Motors, Japan and the Chairman/MD of their co. in India?
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cruiser_1982 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 313 Thanked: 16 Times	Man, problems in your Civic again ??? looks like you are so unfortunate and is stuck with a 'H' badged Lemon.
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HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,106 Thanked: 537 Times	Change the battery and give Honda to blame the next failure on the "un-authorised" modification? Don't think it is a good idea.
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sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,787 Times	We are all over the place, blaming everything from Alpha to Omega. Has he checked and tightened the terminals? I see no feedback on this.
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8th July 2009, 10:27	#89
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,212 Thanked: 15,891 Times	First check the battery terminals, clean and tighten them if required. Do check the battery condition also, easy DIY is to switch ON head light and cabin light and crank, if the cabin light dies off or fades very low, there is problem with battery. Do this after the connection is checked at the terminal.
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