Originally Posted by GTO (Post 1376860)

C+ Segment:
buyers are seeing value in the City (90% Civic for 75% price)

Originally Posted by 1100D (Post 1377782)

I had booked a test drive last month on the Tata website for the Safari, with 2 dealers in town. I got a prompt response via SMS, the sales personnel called me a day later, but till now the test drive hasn't happenned. I could easily drop by the dealership, but then, I decided not to. However, what I was surprised about was I received calls from Toyota dealership enquiring if I would be interested in the Innova. The timing did not seem coincidental, something fishy is going on. Could be that Tata dealer sales personell could be on the Toyota payroll.

Originally Posted by tsk1979 (Post 1376902)

There is currently a vaccum in the 12-20L SUV market.
The affordable SUV(s) with appeal and image are Tata Safari and Mahindra Scorpio.
For a buyer looking for something better its straight jump to 16L with the GV (petrol) or all the way to Endeavor around 20L.
If Maruti can start assembling GV here, and sell it for 11-12L in petrol version, the sales will definitely jump.
People looking for premium SUV will be willing to pay an extra 2L for honda badge, but not an extra 8L.
This is a market where there exists a vaccum since so many years.
Currently we have sedans and hatches to cover all tastes and budgets, but in the SUV segment, either you are 8-10L kind of customer or a 16L+ kind of customer.
People with 12-14L to spend only have the tucson and that too old stock clearance.

Another vaccum exists in the affordable 4x4 category.
MUL can work on the Gypsy, give coil springs and plonk in the multijet and some decent seats with AC and Power steering, and they will have a comfortable extremely capable offroader for 7L
This will be very popular with Bolero and UV customers not to mention off roaders! Many shy away from the gypsy due to lack of comfort and the petrol engine!

Originally Posted by devarshi84 (Post 1377891)

Ford's debacle is surprising but Ford has probably read the minds. They are already working on a redesigned Fiesta. Also a Corolla/Optra Competer is on the cards afaik.

Originally Posted by 007 (Post 1378357)

Excellent report but.....

why Audi is missing?????
arent they sell any ?:Frustrati

Originally Posted by Kashish Gupta (Post 1378326)

Am I reading this right? - The ANHC is 90% of the Civic!!! With all due respect to you Mr. Moderator, but its more like 60% of the Civic at 75% of the price. Drive both of them side by side and you will surely agree with me. Actually, leave alone driving, just sit inside the ANHC after a Civic and you will feel the difference.

Originally Posted by sandeep.mishra (Post 1378339)

I was a bit surprised to see that the Rhino has sole 0 nos.(Read as Zero) in the month of June ? Is ICML shutting down?

Originally Posted by 007 (Post 1378357)

Excellent report but.....

why Audi is missing?????
arent they sell any ?:Frustrati

Originally Posted by GTO (Post 1378097)

I'm sorry, but I would not call it as a "Honda discount" available to anyone and everyone. The impression most people got (including myself) is that Honda is heavily discounting its cars for everyone. That was inaccurate information, plain and simple. If Citibank lowers its interest rates by 1% to Bharti-Axa HNI's, we really cannot post several messages on "Citibank discounting finance rates". That sends out the wrong message. A more appropriate way of terming this bit of news would be "Citibank's special offers ONLY to select customers".

Originally Posted by discoverwild (Post 1378352)

The sales representatives of each dealer meet up during a coffee break and share information regarding prospective clients for a small fee. How do I know this?

Well, my friend used to work for one of the Hyundai dealers and he let me in on this piece of information.

Originally Posted by VahanPujari (Post 1378437)

May be Honda might be testing the waters as still the offer is on almost all models including Jazz (though because of Direct delivery, the dealer margins may have been apportioned which one needs to add back)

Originally Posted by SkyWalker (Post 1378470)

VP - Honda always hand special offers for corporates. And not just Honda most companies have offers for select corporates - its there for most companies i have checked with - Toyota, Huyndai, Maruti,Mitsu.

In 2008, NHC corporate discount was 25-30K (later up to 40K when ANHC was coming) and for Civic it was 40K. For ANHC, it had corporate discount of 15K from Day 1 of launch. Since the prices were jacked up by about 35-40 K later, i believe the new offer will make corporate sales around the same price as it was before Mar 09.

Originally Posted by d3mon (Post 1377754)

@GTO and vasudeva

First of all, Thanks!!

Quick question though, do these figures represent the volume of cars moving off the showroom floor, the production by a certain manufacturer, or the dispatch of vehicles from the manufacturer to the dealer?

This would certainly shed some light on the surprising no. of cars sold/produced/dispatched for a certain 'Not so serious®' car.

Originally Posted by VahanPujari (Post 1377498)

Its only for select corporates with Direct delivery from Honda. Still some dealers seem to know it as confirmed by some banglore t-bhpian (who seems to even know the names of corporates also) from dakshin honda here on another thread

Originally Posted by GTO (Post 1378420)

Without a doubt, things would be very difficult for ICML. They've only sold 68 Rhinos in May, and anywhere between 150 - 250 monthly since January. You can't keep a factory running or dealers happy with these kind of numbers. Plus, why exactly would one buy a Rhino vis a vis an MUV from a more reputable manufacturer (Toyota, Mahindra or Tata)?
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Originally Posted by oss (Post 1378377)

Redesigned Fiesta?? News to me? Can you throw some more light on this.

AFAIK, there a new version that is getting launched - SXi Supreme, with added alloys and stuff, but not redesign.

Pls share any info that you have on this and the D-seg car from Ford, that you are talking about.

EDIT: IT's the 1.4 TDCi SXi, that i am talking about; not the petrol one.

Originally Posted by GTO (Post 1376846)

IMHO, GM India’s CEO Karl Slym did a fantastic job of managing the PR surrounding GM’s bankruptcy. Instead of playing avoidance, he took the news head on, gave long interviews to anyone in the media who was willing to listen, and personally appeared in ads & on their website.

Originally Posted by GTO (Post 1376860)

• The Toyota Corolla Altis retains its position as champion of the C+ segment with 714 sales; its not hard to see why. Practicality inside out, excellent after-sales, healthy taxi sales (tourist) take the Corolla to the top. In fact, Altis seems to be the only car posting extraordinary growth in 6/2009. Lean times mean less flashy cars perhaps???

• The Honda Civic resurges, but only just so much, finishing off June with 451 cars. While MOM sales are up 102.2% (May was terribly low), YOY sales have crashed by 59%. Clearly, buyers are seeing value in the City (90% Civic for 75% price), or across direct better equipped competition like the Altis.