@supremebaleno:I have said this before and I am saying this again. Read my post carefullly. You are not the only one i am talking to on this forum. Quote:
Originally Posted by supremeBaleno We are discussing 2 cars in the Indian scenario - what relevance does Suzuki Global have here ? They are No.1 in the country I reside in and where I buy cars - more than enough for me. |
I was only replying to this: Quote:
Originally Posted by drsnt just out of curiosity where does suzuki stand in global sales? | Quote:
Originally Posted by supremeBaleno Yeah. But I also did some googling and even the glue-manufacturers acknowledge that it still will be years before we can have an automobile that stays together with just glue. Plus loads of other trade-offs linked to using glue. And all this is from the blog of the glue-manufacturer. I am not even looking at other viewpoints.
I did not really want to have the thread go OT - hence desisted from posting that. While we can discuss for ages as to whether glue is good or better than weld/rivets, we atleast know for a fact that all the cars running on our roads sans glue are anyway not falling apart - good enough for me. |
You are answered again. This time by two members. For a change what about googling first and then posting than vice versa. If every one goes by logic in the bold letters above, there won't be any improvement in science and tech. Quote:
Originally Posted by supremeBaleno AFAIK, in India, manufacturers give out prices along with the launch of the car. Nano was the first instance when price came even while the whole thing was just a concept, thereby creating expectations, which finally remained just that. |
Tata motors never mentioned a price for Nano before the Launch. Even Ratan Tata himself mentioned it during Nano launch. Price was speculation by media and they took it as a chalange. Do you have any links to say Tata mentioned the price even before the launch? Quote:
Originally Posted by supremeBaleno As I said before I dont think anyone here cares whether Tata does charity or doles out money to the needy. And whether Maruti does that or not is also least of our concerns. |
Even when I posted I mentioned it as OT. If you don't care ignore those lines. That is only for people who care.
There is nothing wrong in replying to ones post even if it's OT. If you don't like it that's not my problem. Quote:
Originally Posted by Grafin The guy has a point.
Without modern design techniques and multiple crumple zones, air bags are of no major use.
I remember reading in a mag how a Land Rover Discovery in spite of having 6 air bags, was less safer than a Renault Megane in a crash.
So air bags whether in a M800 or an Amby wont make much of a difference if the body shell is the same old primitive one. |
Ofcourse he does. Only if people are wise enough to notice it. Tata had made a official statement at that time making clear the Nano tested is the indian version Nano with Airbags. Praveen's point is very valid. Quote:
Originally Posted by supremeBaleno And the Nano ? It takes any accident and comes out unscathed ? Please spare us the sarcasm because given their reputation for quality (lack of it, actually) the easiest brand to diss is Tata. |
No car comes out unscathed in an accident. Quote:
Originally Posted by praveen_n Yes lets talk about what is currently available.The new m800 (astar for us Indians) cannot get a good rating as nano and this is no if's and but's? People are speculating that a m800 will be safer with out having a test result of 800 and we are saying nano is safe based on test results.So who is mentioning if's and but's? (please dont bring up the European version and indian version thingy...).If somone wants to prove M800 is good show me the results.I am saying nano is better only based on the facts that we have as of now. |
Brother, you hit the nail right on the head. Comparo between Indian version nano with airbags and europian Astar. IF europian Astar cannot beat Nano what are the chances of a indian Astar? And now coming to 30 year old M800? Before anyone starts typing, the minimum Suzuki would have done to the indian one to make it to Europe standard is to add a airbag. So that is a very valid comparo. But still except some people to reply back on this. Quote:
Originally Posted by supremeBaleno
I would compare the Nano against the M800, the rick-like exhaust note not withstanding. But if you think the Nano is to be compared against a rick, well what can I say. Go ahead. Maybe you must be right. |
Don't you think you are sounding arrogant on this one. Both M800 and rick, I am not comparing the product but the price. You are right in saying Nano is not a replacement for a rick. But I say Nano is not a replacement for a 30 year old M800 which is dying a slow death. Tata Motors would not have invested billions of dollars to replace a car which sells 2000 units per month. M800 is not sold in Chennai any more. So how can you compare a product(not price) which is not sold in your area to something which is sold. Quote:
Originally Posted by supremeBaleno From the authoritative way you say as to which car will get certified and which will not, looks like you work for a certifying authority. No ifs and buts here - lets just talk about what is currently available. Unless you have personally crash-tested an M800 and Nano and the latter came a winner. |
What ever praveen has quoted are results from europian safety tests. He is not a certifying authority but the data he points to is from a certifying authority.
Last edited by airbender : 17th June 2010 at 23:05.
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