Biggest Scam of the year ? Karnataka HSR Plate golmaal!!

Sunilrj · 28th July 2009, 21:26

Excerpts from a News item that appeared today :

The state government accordingly, has initiated steps to fall in line with other states in this regard.Mumbai-based Shivnit Utsch India Pvt Ltd has bagged the contract for providing the high security number plates for the vehicles in the state for a 15-year period.

The rates quoted by the company for the number plates are Rs 550 for two-wheelers, Rs 650 for three-wheelers and Rs 1,200 for four-wheelers. It is mandatory for the citizens to pay the prescribed rates and get new high security number plates to their vehicles.

West Bengal, the first state to adopt the new system, has fixed Rs 282 for two -wheelers, Rs 298 for three-wheelers and Rs 441 for four-wheelers.

The fact that the cost in Karnataka is three-fold as compared to the ones fixed by West Bengal, has raised several eye-brows. There is something fishy in this contract, people believe. The state has about 78.51 lac registered vehicles and the differential burden on the people works to around Rs 400 crore. It is said, the company has violated several conditions, one of which, is that it should have had the experience of having supplied number plates to at least four countries. It is said, the company, in order to bag the contract, falsely declared that it had supplied number plates to four countries.

In Rajasthan, the contract for number plates had been given to this company, but after allegations were made about the wrong information furnished by it, the agreement has been put on hold. The government there is contemplating the issue of placing the company on black list.

vsh · 28th July 2009, 21:33

i have also read about the same and horrified. i have given rs 1000 for my numberplate!! i thought it is something DIGITAL and unique and may cost that much. but fact is we are being looted!!

aerohit · 28th July 2009, 21:35

They are also planning to introduce smart driving license cards, which will cost few hundred Rs.

They love to "computerize" everything. hehe

Still cannot repair the roads and improve driving conditions and road safety laws....................

ada · 28th July 2009, 21:35

Hmmm... This whole business is getting murkier, what with delays and all. Why dont they select more then one party pan India so that even we can have choice.

Live To Jive · 28th July 2009, 21:40

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Originally Posted by aerohit

They are also planning to introduce smart driving license cards, which will cost few hundred Rs.

A lot of States have already implemented this. I've been using one for the last 5-6 years.

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Originally Posted by Sunilrj

The rates quoted by the company for the number plates are Rs 550 for two-wheelers, Rs 650 for three-wheelers and Rs 1,200 for four-wheelers. It is mandatory for the citizens to pay the prescribed rates and get new high security number plates to their vehicles.

Utsav Plates quotes the same rates. West Bengal govt. my be subsidising the plates.

hrman · 28th July 2009, 21:41

Whats preventing us from getting the plates done from a state with low rates?

Sunilrj · 28th July 2009, 21:43

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Originally Posted by aerohit

They are also planning to introduce smart driving license cards, which will cost few hundred Rs.

They love to "computerize" everything. hehe

Still cannot repair the roads and improve driving conditions and road safety laws....................

well said! NH 17 mangalore to End of NH 17 and Nh 48 Mangalore to hassan are in such a bad state that even the most daring private bus operators are scared to venture on them!

as far as the city goes, there are absolutely no roads, no rules, no traffic laws. the private city busses and the three wheeled schumakers are a law unto themselves!

madhukar_n · 28th July 2009, 22:00

now they are charging for "smart card" for registration.. this will replace the "RC book".
For honda they are charging 2000 extra for this. i dont know how much they are charging for hyundai i10.. (i am getting it tomorrow.. so will come to know soon)

ownerofazkaban · 28th July 2009, 22:02

I feel its time for a new completely revamped RTO system, which is integrated into systems like the national UID,

- folks Should not be allowed to register cars if they haven't brought car park from builder if theere is no other way to park in public

- the split of RTO... where things are nationally unique and statewise overriding rules is dumped.

- We want uniform RTO bidding, road laying rules, road specification rules and these rules should be based on terrain and not state legistature etc.
(Karnataka specifies the min, tar thickness few cms less than other states but the bidding, road tax etc are the highest) -- The pain/hurt is very high from excessive milking of cows.

can rant and rant for days on the rto system, but point is high time its completely revamped.

jkdas · 28th July 2009, 22:09

Calcutta guys can you confirm this?

I thought all this was put on hold as they vendors couldnt make any profit out of the rate govt wanted them to sell and this was in court.

Live To Jive · 28th July 2009, 22:51

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Originally Posted by madhukar_n

now they are charging for "smart card" for registration.. this will replace the "RC book".
For honda they are charging 2000 extra for this. i dont know how much they are charging for hyundai i10.. (i am getting it tomorrow.. so will come to know soon)

The charges you mentioned are for online registration. This money goes to the dealer and not RTO. The Smart card costs Rs.200-300.

rr_zen · 29th July 2009, 00:20

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Originally Posted by madhukar_n

For honda they are charging 2000 extra for this.

The words "Honda" and "premium" go hand in hand I suppose !

akj53 · 29th July 2009, 08:55

This is a very big scam. The contract is finalised only after paying a huge amount to politicians and officers and the charges are inflated to suit the company.

So everybody involved in this racket makes lots of money and only the public is looser.

arin_12 · 29th July 2009, 09:49

KA GOVT and Official is milking money from the people like hell. They are now very innovative in sucking money in various way. Any thing in KA are very highly priced compared to neighbouring state. Its not only RTO. Bescom/Water Supply/BBMP all charge you very for any thing u want to do with them including Bribe

entropy · 29th July 2009, 09:53

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Originally Posted by akj53

This is a very big scam. The contract is finalised only after paying a huge amount to politicians and officers and the charges are inflated to suit the company.

So everybody involved in this racket makes lots of money and only the public is looser.

Sad but true. This is sadly how India works. OT but couldn't resist - The average unofficial income of an RTO here in UP is quoted to be about 15-20 lakhs per month. In good season they might make much more.

28th July 2009, 21:26	#1
Sunilrj BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mangalore Posts: 773 Thanked: 581 Times	Biggest Scam of the year ? Karnataka HSR Plate golmaal!! Excerpts from a News item that appeared today : The state government accordingly, has initiated steps to fall in line with other states in this regard.Mumbai-based Shivnit Utsch India Pvt Ltd has bagged the contract for providing the high security number plates for the vehicles in the state for a 15-year period. The rates quoted by the company for the number plates are Rs 550 for two-wheelers, Rs 650 for three-wheelers and Rs 1,200 for four-wheelers. It is mandatory for the citizens to pay the prescribed rates and get new high security number plates to their vehicles. West Bengal, the first state to adopt the new system, has fixed Rs 282 for two -wheelers, Rs 298 for three-wheelers and Rs 441 for four-wheelers. The fact that the cost in Karnataka is three-fold as compared to the ones fixed by West Bengal, has raised several eye-brows. There is something fishy in this contract, people believe. The state has about 78.51 lac registered vehicles and the differential burden on the people works to around Rs 400 crore. It is said, the company has violated several conditions, one of which, is that it should have had the experience of having supplied number plates to at least four countries. It is said, the company, in order to bag the contract, falsely declared that it had supplied number plates to four countries. In Rajasthan, the contract for number plates had been given to this company, but after allegations were made about the wrong information furnished by it, the agreement has been put on hold. The government there is contemplating the issue of placing the company on black list.
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28th July 2009, 21:33	#2
vsh BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: sirsi Posts: 102 Thanked: 9 Times	i have also read about the same and horrified. i have given rs 1000 for my numberplate!! i thought it is something DIGITAL and unique and may cost that much. but fact is we are being looted!!
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28th July 2009, 21:35	#3
aerohit BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: India Posts: 978 Thanked: 981 Times	They are also planning to introduce smart driving license cards, which will cost few hundred Rs. They love to "computerize" everything. hehe Still cannot repair the roads and improve driving conditions and road safety laws....................
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28th July 2009, 21:35	#4
ada BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 184 Thanked: 50 Times	Hmmm... This whole business is getting murkier, what with delays and all. Why dont they select more then one party pan India so that even we can have choice.
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28th July 2009, 21:41	#6
hrman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 1,015 Times	Whats preventing us from getting the plates done from a state with low rates?
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28th July 2009, 22:00	#8
madhukar_n BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 395 Thanked: 179 Times	now they are charging for "smart card" for registration.. this will replace the "RC book". For honda they are charging 2000 extra for this. i dont know how much they are charging for hyundai i10.. (i am getting it tomorrow.. so will come to know soon)
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28th July 2009, 22:02	#9
ownerofazkaban BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BLR Posts: 456 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	junk the RTO I feel its time for a new completely revamped RTO system, which is integrated into systems like the national UID, - folks Should not be allowed to register cars if they haven't brought car park from builder if theere is no other way to park in public - the split of RTO... where things are nationally unique and statewise overriding rules is dumped. - We want uniform RTO bidding, road laying rules, road specification rules and these rules should be based on terrain and not state legistature etc. (Karnataka specifies the min, tar thickness few cms less than other states but the bidding, road tax etc are the highest) -- The pain/hurt is very high from excessive milking of cows. can rant and rant for days on the rto system, but point is high time its completely revamped.
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28th July 2009, 22:09	#10
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Calcutta guys can you confirm this? I thought all this was put on hold as they vendors couldnt make any profit out of the rate govt wanted them to sell and this was in court.
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akj53 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NOIDA, Manchester & Cardiff Posts: 585 Thanked: 92 Times	This is a very big scam. The contract is finalised only after paying a huge amount to politicians and officers and the charges are inflated to suit the company. So everybody involved in this racket makes lots of money and only the public is looser.
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29th July 2009, 09:49	#14
arin_12 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 627 Thanked: 84 Times View My Garage	KA GOVT and Official is milking money from the people like hell. They are now very innovative in sucking money in various way. Any thing in KA are very highly priced compared to neighbouring state. Its not only RTO. Bescom/Water Supply/BBMP all charge you very for any thing u want to do with them including Bribe
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