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Originally Posted by karanraheja Are you trying to say that a person with budget of 9 lacs would settle with a Manza for 7 lacs odd? I dont think the majority would agree. I think Fiesta 1.4 TDCI might face the heat since its not that roomy and only decently powered . This seems to be a great effort from Tata, from pics quality seems to have improved. But overall this surely looks like a great package. Dzire without a doubt would face the heat. |
Karan so should we blame Tata motors to have priced Manza lesser than it should be?
Why won't a person with a budget of 9 lacs go for Manza if he is getting more for the less money? Quote:
Originally Posted by YC.BALENO.CHD Well to be frank, this is quite a far fetched thought. TATAs had always been spacious and that has been there selling point. No other car gets you more sheet metal for your hard earned money than the Tatas. But then, that's about it. All TATA cars have poor ergonomics and apart from all that space the interiors are nothing to write home about.
Sure, they look neat but that visual appeal is all lost by the time the car clocks anything above 25K kms. Tell me, how many of us here have ever come across a decent looking 3 year old indica/indigo?
Talking of the rattles and squeaks in the dezire, sure they are troublesome but what would you prefer? A good looking but rattling cabin or a good looking cabin made of terrible plastics? Well, I guess we would prefer to prefer none but then buyers don't have much choice considering Ikon's interiors reminds of the late 80s, only saving grace being the meaty steering wheel.
Ah and that 90ps diesel, sure it has 15 ps advantage over the dezire and some more over the ikon tdci, which all looks fantastic on paper but I bet it won't look half as good on road. Why? Consider this,donkeys of years ago
the beloved ZEN had a 55bhp engine compared to 75bhp unit of the Indica V2 petrol and even a driver with driving skills of a rotten potato can tell which was better to drive.
Sure, some may argue that TATA has moved on since then but then again we all know how fun Vista is to drive.
Another weak point with TATA cars has been gearing. Which make otherwise acceptable performance below average.
Finally, TATA is generous in using loads of steel in its cars and all that weight means 0-100 timings of this sedan are being compared to that of erstwhile matiz (and i bet revin that puny motor of that puny car is more fun) and also due all that mass fuel economy should too very well be less than that of the tdci and dzire.
To be frank am not as dismissive of this car as I may seem to some, it sure is somewhat promising, but a death knell for that suzuki with odd ball rear looks, no that in all probability won't be the case.
So, who'll buy this new sedan?
em....not any of us bhpian I suppose. Maybe like all other TATAs it will make a good taxi, and I can see some boring government officials with gray hair happily being chauffeur driven in this boring sedan, and with all that space and the status of having a 'badi gaadi' (sedan) will make them all the more glad.
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I beg to differ on few points.
We have a 3+ year old Indigo Lx and anyone is most welcome to check the interiors. They look good and decent even today. Yes. beige is a pain in Indian dusty conditions but a dry clean once in 2 months and they are back to new.
Terrible plastics? I sit in my buddy's swift vdi more than my own car and honestly i don't find any difference in plastic quality in both cars.
Have you ever sat in an Indica and Zen which were banged head on?
I had and then you realise why Tata makes Indica and Indigo heavy with all those steels cos it protects the car and the passengers.
BTW try to overtake an Indica which is above 120 in a Zen. You will get to know the difference.
My cousin's Indica gives 16-17kmpl. Our indigo 14-15kmpl. My buddys Swift gives 17kmpl. Another cosins fiesta gives 16-17kmpl. Current Vista gives - 16-18kmpl as reported by users. I fail to see how Tata can be termed giving poor fuel economy cars due to more steel.
Finally - Kindly refrain from making such sweeping statements. This forum has many members with Indigo,old indica,Vista etc and trust me none of them is a taxi driver yet. Am very positive there will be more in line to buy Manza as well. Lets wait and see how market reacts to the new release.
The old indigo's biggest negative for me was its 1st and 2nd gears or we can say turbo lag. However Vista does not have it and as per specs seems Manza would not be having it either so am sure this car will sell like hot cakes.
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