Maruti Halts SX4 production for Engine change !!

mohan41 · 13th October 2009, 10:11

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Originally Posted by Yeshwant

its confirm news, SX4 diesel virsion is going to be lanched soon.
also Wagon-R is also going to be lanched with new facelift.

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Originally Posted by neotraveller

I guess this confirms .. no 1.3MJD-90 for SX4.
Maruti has to look at other manufacturers for a diesel in SX4. Or maybe they can still release the 1.6 MJD?

@Yeshwant: In light of the news that Maruti does not have license for 1.3MJD-90, are you sure of the SX4 diesel launch in near future?

Gilead · 13th October 2009, 11:44

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Latest from R C Bhargava - Chairman Maruti Suzuki
“As a model gets older, its sales drop. The sales of the SX4 were further hit due to a few misleading reports in media about Maruti planning to discontinue the SX4. Hopefully sales would look brighter after the facelift. I am not sure what target has been set for the car, but we will supply what the market will demand”, Bhargava says.

This is hilarious. The Chairman of the company does not know the targets!? They will just cater to whatever the demand is. lol This tells me that Maruti has thrown in the towel as far as the SX4 is concerned. They know they will never be able to compete with the ANHC.

askicode · 13th October 2009, 11:54

I guess they might relaunch it after Diwali

radiokidb · 13th October 2009, 12:33

Well so it seems confirmed that the 1.6 VVTi engine is coming.

However another alternative i thought was possible would be the M15A. In fact they shoul have introduced this long back. It generates the same 100 Hp but since it is below 1.5l, maruti can avoid the tax of Rs 15000(or is it 10000 now?) on all engines above 1.5l. On that topic im sure ford woul have also reconsidered phasing out of the 1.4 petrol fiesta for the same reason

windsurfer · 13th October 2009, 13:40

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Originally Posted by radiokidb

Well so it seems confirmed that the 1.6 VVTi engine is coming.

However another alternative i thought was possible would be the M15A. In fact they shoul have introduced this long back. It generates the same 100 Hp but since it is below 1.5l, maruti can avoid the tax of Rs 15000(or is it 10000 now?) on all engines above 1.5l. On that topic im sure ford woul have also reconsidered phasing out of the 1.4 petrol fiesta for the same reason

I thought that this tax has been removed?

askicode · 13th October 2009, 14:37

The release has been postponed to after Diwali based on this latest news report

John Abraham unlikely to endorse revamped Maruti sedan SX4*-*WheelsUnplugged Automobile Industry News

The 'men' will be back soon

Some Excerpts from the article.

"Also, the aforesaid midsize sedan’s launched date has been pushed back a little from 13th October to sometime later this month, though the company has refused to put any timeline"

"For Maruti Suzuki SX4, the fireworks will begin just after Diwali. That is when the “man” among cars, as the SX4 is called in its ad campaigns, will be back after a short break."

aaggoswami · 13th October 2009, 18:38

Internationally ( Europe ) SX4 recently got updated with new looks and better engines.
The new engines include :
1) 2.0 16V 135 bhp diesel, comes with DPF ( Diesel Particulate Filter ). I think that this is same DW10 from ( PSA ) Peugeot ( this is not a Fiat unit ). The 1.6 diesel is again from Peugeot. The UK website of Suzuki is not updated, but search in good and you will get resutls.

2) The 1.6 petrol is updated to 120 bhp.

PS : I am not posting the links of the news source as its in different language.

What I wonder is this :
Are we getting this newer 2.0 unit ? Or are we getting the Peugeot mill ( 1560cc iirc, and with VGT, it produces 110 bhp ) ?

Is the updated motor intune with the EU standards ? I mean we can expect 115 bhp SX4 even after the engine has been somewhat detuned.

EDIT :
Suzuki SX4 Gets A New Look And Even Lower CO2 Emissions in Europe

I am posting this link here as its in english. Note that this article only talks about new engines, but not about outputs. To get the numbers, googling has to be done.

EDIT 2:
All this has been done for Euro-5 emission norms.

romeomidhun · 13th October 2009, 20:34

Why Suzuki can't develop Diesel technology by itself, or buy technology from companies like Bosch and develop or re-tune on that?

Anyway, if Maruti Suzuki switches to Peugeot for Diesel technology in India, only FIAT is going to be the loser rather than Suzuki, IMO.

TarCruiser · 14th October 2009, 12:16

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Originally Posted by romeomidhun

Why Suzuki can't develop Diesel technology by itself, or buy technology from companies like Bosch and develop or re-tune on that?

Japanese are marvelous in petrol engine, in fact auto industry says no one makes petrol engine better than Japanese. Perhaps such kudos kept Honda and Suzuki out of diesel venture. Though Honda has recently launched or soon going to add indigenous 2.2 litre diesel for its accord, from no quarter I have any news Suzuki foraying into diesel. MSIL is largely handicapped by absence of diesel technology with Suzuki and hence dependency on FIAT or Peugeot has hit them hard.

TarCruiser · 14th October 2009, 12:39

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Originally Posted by aaggoswami

Internationally ( Europe ) SX4 recently got updated with new looks and better engines.
The new engines include :
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EDIT 2:
All this has been done for Euro-5 emission norms.

From the prescribed link, I am glad to learn major revamp in the interiors of the car.

All new meter cluster with digital info
New control panel for climate control AC
Backlight for steering mounted controls
High quality seat material to improve ride quality
60:40 split seat

Hope same is passed immediately to Indian buyers.

*VT* · 14th October 2009, 14:47

No updates on refreshed SX4's launch as well??

fx45 · 14th October 2009, 14:47

CNBC TV18 had indicated that refreshed SX4 would be launched anytime this week.

*VT* · 14th October 2009, 15:23

Do you have any details on the changes expected?

tsk13 · 14th October 2009, 15:25

Where is Mr. Sidindica? I have great hopes from him on the new SX4; he knows it before the Showroom sales team.

CBlazer · 16th October 2009, 14:42

Was told by the local Maruti dealer that the training on the SX4 has just completed. Wonder why there are no leaks so far?

All that I got out of him was that there would be an AT option.

13th October 2009, 11:54	#168
askicode BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 174 Thanked: 73 Times	I guess they might relaunch it after Diwali
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13th October 2009, 12:33	#169
radiokidb BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 208 Thanked: 37 Times	Well so it seems confirmed that the 1.6 VVTi engine is coming. However another alternative i thought was possible would be the M15A. In fact they shoul have introduced this long back. It generates the same 100 Hp but since it is below 1.5l, maruti can avoid the tax of Rs 15000(or is it 10000 now?) on all engines above 1.5l. On that topic im sure ford woul have also reconsidered phasing out of the 1.4 petrol fiesta for the same reason
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13th October 2009, 14:37	#171
askicode BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 174 Thanked: 73 Times	The release has been postponed to after Diwali based on this latest news report John Abraham unlikely to endorse revamped Maruti sedan SX4-WheelsUnplugged Automobile Industry News The 'men' will be back soon Some Excerpts from the article. "Also, the aforesaid midsize sedan’s launched date has been pushed back a little from 13th October to sometime later this month, though the company has refused to put any timeline" "For Maruti Suzuki SX4, the fireworks will begin just after Diwali. That is when the “man” among cars, as the SX4 is called in its ad campaigns, will be back after a short break."
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13th October 2009, 18:38	#172
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,982 Thanked: 2,931 Times	Internationally ( Europe ) SX4 recently got updated with new looks and better engines. The new engines include : 1) 2.0 16V 135 bhp diesel, comes with DPF ( Diesel Particulate Filter ). I think that this is same DW10 from ( PSA ) Peugeot ( this is not a Fiat unit ). The 1.6 diesel is again from Peugeot. The UK website of Suzuki is not updated, but search in good and you will get resutls. 2) The 1.6 petrol is updated to 120 bhp. PS : I am not posting the links of the news source as its in different language. What I wonder is this : Are we getting this newer 2.0 unit ? Or are we getting the Peugeot mill ( 1560cc iirc, and with VGT, it produces 110 bhp ) ? Is the updated motor intune with the EU standards ? I mean we can expect 115 bhp SX4 even after the engine has been somewhat detuned. EDIT : Suzuki SX4 Gets A New Look And Even Lower CO2 Emissions in Europe I am posting this link here as its in english. Note that this article only talks about new engines, but not about outputs. To get the numbers, googling has to be done. EDIT 2: All this has been done for Euro-5 emission norms. Last edited by aaggoswami : 13th October 2009 at 18:44.
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13th October 2009, 20:34	#173
romeomidhun BANNED Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 3,282 Thanked: 4,876 Times	Why Suzuki can't develop Diesel technology by itself, or buy technology from companies like Bosch and develop or re-tune on that? Anyway, if Maruti Suzuki switches to Peugeot for Diesel technology in India, only FIAT is going to be the loser rather than Suzuki, IMO.
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14th October 2009, 14:47	#176
VT BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: India Posts: 118 Thanked: Once	No updates on refreshed SX4's launch as well??
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14th October 2009, 14:47	#177
fx45 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,823 Thanked: 384 Times	CNBC TV18 had indicated that refreshed SX4 would be launched anytime this week.
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14th October 2009, 15:23	#178
VT BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: India Posts: 118 Thanked: Once	Do you have any details on the changes expected?
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14th October 2009, 15:25	#179
tsk13 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 361 Times	Where is Mr. Sidindica? I have great hopes from him on the new SX4; he knows it before the Showroom sales team.
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16th October 2009, 14:42	#180
CBlazer BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 596 Thanked: 17 Times	Was told by the local Maruti dealer that the training on the SX4 has just completed. Wonder why there are no leaks so far? All that I got out of him was that there would be an AT option.
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