Maruti Halts SX4 production for Engine change !!

black12rr · 24th September 2009, 13:47

They should stop swift and get on with SX4 hatch and sedan with oil burner options in both .

scooby05 · 24th September 2009, 13:51

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Originally Posted by aaggoswami

1) K series with 1.6 ?? I think the bigger K series were expected with new Swift that is currnetly undergoing tests internationally. I think its M16A with VVTi.

2) IIRC, Fiat was delaying technology transfer for 1.6 and 1.9 diesel motors. If Maruti is able to get 1.6 in SX4, others are sure to get a massive blow.

3) The engine will be updated for US markets and put out 4-5 hp more.

Can you mention the source of information for the news of 1.6 DDiS SX4 ?

They already offer the 1.6ddis, 120ps engine in some markets. And I was told by one of the very senior dealers about the expected engines about 6 weeks back.

jaaz · 24th September 2009, 13:57

The New SX4 will come with Exterior changes - Source CNBC TV18 - Engine options are not disclosed. Also a Van Model is expected from Maruti next month.

Baron · 24th September 2009, 13:58

The only reason SX4 is without diesel option is because Maruti Suzuki doesn't has Fiat's permission for manufacturing 1.6 ddis engine ( which maruti plans for SX4). As Linea competes with SX4, Fiat plans that engine first in Linea and afterwords in SX4.

Maruti is not happy with it but cannot do anything about it. Talks have been going on but Fiat is adamant that 1.6L will be first in Linea.

aka_iitd · 24th September 2009, 14:17

So hefty discount on existing models of SX4 will be next step to clear the stocks
One question if BSIV came into practice then old engine are allowed in the city or not? I believe they would be

jaaz · 24th September 2009, 14:25

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Originally Posted by aka_iitd

One question if BSIV came into practice then old engine are allowed in the city or not? I believe they would be

The Old Vehicles will be allowed. The rules will apply to the Manufacturer from April' 2010. So, they cannot sell BSIII vehicles in Major Cities.

romeomidhun · 24th September 2009, 14:36

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Originally Posted by black12rr

They should stop swift and get on with SX4 hatch and sedan with oil burner options in both .

Let me know, why they should stop Swift? Just because some other manufacturers cannot compete with Swift's popularity? After all, Swift is the undisputed leader in the B+ segment, where others like Getz, U-VA etc just failed to reach a 4-digit sales number!

Sudan_NFS · 24th September 2009, 14:39

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Originally Posted by jaaz

The New SX4 will come with Exterior changes - Source CNBC TV18 - Engine options are not disclosed. Also a Van Model is expected from Maruti next month.

How about interior and why can't they change the steering wheel ?.
One important Question what will be the price of SX4 ?

amit · 24th September 2009, 15:06

There is a 1.6L diesel for SX4 in Europe but it's from Peugeot and not Fiat. The engine has 90ps and 215Nm torque.

memo45_m · 24th September 2009, 16:40

Confirmed news for the SX4 is that its coming with the VVTi head for the existing M-series engine, and probably some minor face lift to keep up with the international model(sedan), but there is no news of a diesel version nor the better looking Hatch.

nurni76 · 24th September 2009, 17:22

Yes I fail to understand why the hatch is not being introduced in India

. I am in Canada for the last 6 days and I find the hatch so popular here. In my earlier trip to China as well, I found the same. The hatch looks so good and along with the 143 BHP engine, it is really an awesome vehicle.

Check this link

The Car Magazine.com - 2009 Suzuki SX4 Hatchback Road Test Review - Test Drives & Reviews,Mississauga Ontario Canada

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Originally Posted by memo45_m

Confirmed news for the SX4 is that its coming with the VVTi head for the existing M-series engine, and probably some minor face lift to keep up with the international model(sedan), but there is no news of a diesel version nor the better looking Hatch.

Mpower · 24th September 2009, 17:35

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Originally Posted by aaggoswami

Well the M series in India in SX4 is without VVTi. This one is expected to have VVTi.

I am expecting around 5-6 hp jump, better bottom end grunt and slightly better top end. The mid range is good enough, but again some improvement might be there

What is there to expect?

5 bhp more is exactly what the 1.6 vvt sold overseas produces. (107)

sharma_sanjeevi · 24th September 2009, 17:46

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Originally Posted by Baron

As Linea competes with SX4, Fiat plans that engine first in Linea and afterwords in SX4.

Maruti is not happy with it but cannot do anything about it. Talks have been going on but Fiat is adamant that 1.6L will be first in Linea.

Dont think so that, the 1.6 MJD will make it's way into the SX4, why would FIAT want to screw itself by giving the Engine to Maruti, it would be a suicidal move by them as it could kill Linea.

viper_711 · 24th September 2009, 18:06

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Originally Posted by sharma_sanjeevi

Dont think so that, the 1.6 MJD will make it's way into the SX4, why would FIAT want to screw itself by giving the Engine to Maruti, it would be a suicidal move by them as it could kill Linea.

Not necessarily! IIRC the Swift DDIS was launched before the Palio MJD.

Su-47 · 24th September 2009, 18:09

Sorry for the massive OT, but, what is the big deal about K-series engine when compared to the M-series?

24th September 2009, 13:47	#16
black12rr Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ridin earth now Posts: 1,278 Thanked: 339 Times	They should stop swift and get on with SX4 hatch and sedan with oil burner options in both .
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jaaz BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 661 Thanked: 636 Times	The New SX4 will come with Exterior changes - Source CNBC TV18 - Engine options are not disclosed. Also a Van Model is expected from Maruti next month.
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Baron Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Somewhere of nowhere Posts: 24 Thanked: 0 Times	The only reason SX4 is without diesel option is because Maruti Suzuki doesn't has Fiat's permission for manufacturing 1.6 ddis engine ( which maruti plans for SX4). As Linea competes with SX4, Fiat plans that engine first in Linea and afterwords in SX4. Maruti is not happy with it but cannot do anything about it. Talks have been going on but Fiat is adamant that 1.6L will be first in Linea.
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24th September 2009, 14:17	#20
aka_iitd BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 630 Thanked: 45 Times	So hefty discount on existing models of SX4 will be next step to clear the stocks One question if BSIV came into practice then old engine are allowed in the city or not? I believe they would be
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amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 449 Times	There is a 1.6L diesel for SX4 in Europe but it's from Peugeot and not Fiat. The engine has 90ps and 215Nm torque.
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24th September 2009, 16:40	#25
memo45_m BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 299 Thanked: 70 Times View My Garage	Confirmed news for the SX4 is that its coming with the VVTi head for the existing M-series engine, and probably some minor face lift to keep up with the international model(sedan), but there is no news of a diesel version nor the better looking Hatch.
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24th September 2009, 18:09	#30
Su-47 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 692 Thanked: 327 Times	Sorry for the massive OT, but, what is the big deal about K-series engine when compared to the M-series?
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