[Thad E Ginathom]

This thread, with an apparently production-ready Polo was started two years ago!

I'm getting fed up with the wait for this car to come onto the market. What is VW's problem?

[tushky]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

This thread, with an apparently production-ready Polo was started two years ago!

I'm getting fed up with the wait for this car to come onto the market. What is VW's problem?

yes but 2 years ago he spotted last gen. Polo not the new one. since one year we are getting new polo scoops.

[anekho]

1.2 L petrol worst engine in history.

I guess the 1.4 TDi (it's PD) is the only hope till the 1.6 comes.

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

I'm getting fed up with the wait for this car to come onto the market. What is VW's problem?

Nothing to get fed up about, we've all known that it's due in 2010. We're the ones who are impatient

[rajivn]

Originally Posted by sidindica

• 1.2 3 cylinder petrol with 65ps
• 1.4 TDi diesel (not sure if it is CRDi or PD) with 70 ps
• 1.6 petrol expected after 5 months of launch
• variants can be named trendline, comfortline and comfortline+

1.4 Tdi..? Well good, otherwise Polo diesel would have been thrashed by Figo's 1.4 Tdci which is another new launch along with Polo and Beat. With 1.4 Tdi, Polo can compete with the likes of Punto( and other 1.3MJD cars), i20 and Figo. More info of 1.4 Tdi can help us understand how it would fare compared with these other proven diesels.

[niks_devil666]

Originally Posted by suhaas307

The last thing that I thought I'd see was a Volkswagen convoy when I was holidaying at The Intercontinental 'The Lalit', Goa!

And some folks from the convoy asked me if my enfield was a diesel one and if it was still being manufactured in India.

Damn , should have exchanged the vehicles for a TD of the polo.

[jigbarai]

Originally Posted by anekho

1.2 L petrol worst engine in history.

And why would you make such a sweeping statement kind Sir ? Its been doing its job perfectly here in India and the countless VW group cars sold abroad.

Originally Posted by sidindica

• 1.2 3 cylinder petrol with 65ps
• 1.4 TDi diesel (not sure if it is CRDi or PD) with 70 ps
• 1.6 petrol expected after 5 months of launch
• variants can be named trendline, comfortline and comfortline+

So thats the Fabia specs - same engines.
1.6 would be good to watch out for.

Originally Posted by chncar

But it seems about right, it's completely unrealistic to expect a high tech engine with DSG box etc for 6 L, considering what kind of gear you get for high prices on the Fabia or Jetta.

So very true.
We expect a whole lot of features and quality but dont really want to spend the money.
If they were to give a DSG box or a 1.2 TSI, they'd have to price it close to 9 L OTR atleast.
Then, hell would break loose on the VFM & pricing comments.

[anekho]

Originally Posted by jigbarai

And why would you make such a sweeping statement kind Sir ? Its been doing its job perfectly here in India and the countless VW group cars sold abroad.

Just my personal opinion based on test drives my father and I have made.
I dislike the weak lower range of the engine making it very difficult to drive in stop and go city traffic. Besides the engine doesn't feel very refined and it's noisy - one drive in the petrol ritz or even i10 kappa and you'll see how much smoother those engines are.

My worst experience was when my dad tried to drive a fabia (1.2) uphill. This hill was nothing to write home about - just an average hill which all other cars (aygo's with 1L engines etc) could climb easily. In first gear, my dad had the pedal to the metal (no kidding) and yet the rev's were barely half-way and the car was struggling uphill. If we had to for some reason stop on the hill and then resume, I doubt the car would have made it.

Maybe the car was a lemon - maybe not. Either way we weren't impressed with the engine, although the car was nice and solid. My statement wasn't literal as in it is THE worst engine in history - I was just expressing my dislike.

cheers

[jigbarai]

^^
Most likely case of a lemon Sir (if for no other reason).

Many Fabia 1.2 owners on this forum (& the famed 'Fabia thread') are a testimony of the 1.2 MPI engine/car doing hills and ghats with panache.

Close to 110 Nm of torque at just 3000 rpm is what it gives. Very few petrol hatches come close here.

True, its not as refined (and a little noisy) as the Kappa or the K Series. Damn the missing pot. Sigh.

[anekho]

True, when the polo is released I'll give it a fair test drive.

But my eyes are set on the 1.6

[polo6n]

Are the Indian Polos (with the exception of the 3cyl) going to be 8 valve or 16 valve?

[rajivn]

Guys, any idea if this 1.6 petrol can match the performance of Palio 1.6 ?

[jigbarai]

@polo6n -
3cyl = 12 valve; 4cyl = 16 valve.

@rajivn -
How can someone answer this, without having experienced the polo 1.6 ? if someone attempts it would be mere speculation.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by anekho

Nothing to get fed up about, we've all known that it's due in 2010. We're the ones who are impatient

OK, I'll be patient.... I doubt I'd be buying anyway, and ought to be seriously saving if I would be!

[pb10gagan]

sorry if this is a repost

but here is a video that explains the 1.2 TSi in detail

YouTube - 1.2TSI Presentation

and here is a video that has the lovely exhaust note of the 1.2 TSi motor, its very intoxicating. Start watching after 4:00 minute mark.

YouTube - VW Polo - Driving Scenes (1.2 TSI Engine Sound)

[theEnd]

Originally Posted by rajivn

Guys, any idea if this 1.6 petrol can match the performance of Palio 1.6 ?

Based on current information, the only answer is... if its a new engine then it should easily be more powerful and more fuel efficient at the same time. However, if this is the same 1.6 currently doing duty in the Jetta then it will be inferior to the Palio 1.6 (at least in terms of performance).