Maruti's that are made in India, but NOT sold in India!!

ACM · 21st October 2009, 10:37

Maruti would have done some kind of a survey and concluded that Auto's variant would not sell more than 5% in India for their car range. What they are possibly missing out is the chance to take their vehicles to a higher value range, and a premium for their brand in the future.

One can't just be seen a reliable, cheap and serviceable, the Snob / Brand value too is required, especially as India goes up the value chain.

Crank · 21st October 2009, 14:40

People are mainly scared of the intial higher costs and the running cost due to low FE in cars with AT.
Any idea about FE differences between i10 AT and MT or a Santro AT and MT?

jacobgeorge · 22nd October 2009, 13:54

There are a lot of people, men and women included who are opting for the AT these days and the numbers are only increasing. Yes, there is a certain amount of choice in the 10+ L segment but in the small car segment, there is only the i10AT which is kind of disappointing. I would have expected Maruti to come out with an AT box in their Ritz, A Star and Swift which would have definitely resulted in a swing of customers from Hyundai to Suzuki.

Perosnally I have a NHC CVT and an i10 AT. Convenience overules mileage in this case and I am sure 90% of buyers of an AT will share the same reason.

blackasta · 22nd October 2009, 13:58

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Originally Posted by Crank

People are mainly scared of the intial higher costs and the running cost due to low FE in cars with AT.
Any idea about FE differences between i10 AT and MT or a Santro AT and MT?

For i10, I guess it is around 2 kmpl. I personally get FE of around 11.5 from a 2 month old car, and have read about people getting 12-13 kmpl on an A/T i10.

Crank · 22nd October 2009, 14:46

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Originally Posted by blackasta

For i10, I guess it is around 2 kmpl. I personally get FE of around 11.5 from a 2 month old car, and have read about people getting 12-13 kmpl on an A/T i10.

12-13 kmpl for i10 AT is pretty decent. Probably this word should spread so that the gyan builds on FE of AT cars. One of my friends avoided going for a Santro AT as many others were quoting 5-7 kmpl for the same.

riteshritesh · 22nd October 2009, 14:57

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Originally Posted by jacobgeorge

There are a lot of people, men and women included who are opting for the AT these days and the numbers are only increasing. Yes, there is a certain amount of choice in the 10+ L segment but in the small car segment, there is only the i10AT which is kind of disappointing. I would have expected Maruti to come out with an AT box in their Ritz, A Star and Swift which would have definitely resulted in a swing of customers from Hyundai to Suzuki.

Perosnally I have a NHC CVT and an i10 AT. Convenience overules mileage in this case and I am sure 90% of buyers of an AT will share the same reason.

I second your opinions. I too have a Honda City CVT ( I don't know if it is the new honda city), since there came a model after my city ( the one which says Vtec), but before the current new honda city.

The pleasure and convenience of driving an auto transmission is something that can be fathomed only after owning one.

jacobgeorge · 22nd October 2009, 15:25

Hi Ritesh, I have the City, the previous model to the latest ANHC. I get around 10 to 11 km/litre. My i10 also returns the same. I am not complaining and I do not own a petrol pump

. The convenience of driving through KR Puram traffic in Bangalore every morning and evening is reason enough to consider an automatic.

ananth_iy · 24th October 2009, 07:58

Well said Sid. If only we could break all the myths on A/Ts...

Ananth
Hyundai Santro A/T

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Originally Posted by blackasta

Don't really agree to some points of yours.
All opinions strictly personal - and I am no automobile guru!

blackasta · 26th October 2009, 20:29

guess the following is from Maruti Suzuki in response to this thread:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-brochure.html

The first practical 4speed A/T car from MSIL stable - the face lifted SX4 @ around 8 lakhs ex showroom delhi!

ACM · 28th October 2009, 09:36

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Originally Posted by blackasta

guess the following is from Maruti Suzuki in response to this thread:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-brochure.html

The first practical 4speed A/T car from MSIL stable - the face lifted SX4 @ around 8 lakhs ex showroom delhi!

That is too little too late. They should get the 4 speed Auto in the ritz/ swift segment to give their current flagshift car older 4 speed technology will rub off the brand the wrong way.

ananth_iy · 28th October 2009, 09:47

I did a compare of the automatic versions of the SX4, the i20 and the City and it does look as if the SX4 is targeting the City. Apart from the power, where the SX4 falls woefully short, the rest of the specs are comparably if not better in the SX4. Not sure though how many people would give up the Honda tag for a Maruti tag.

ananth_iy · 30th October 2009, 07:56

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Originally Posted by blackasta

guess the following is from Maruti Suzuki in response to this thread:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-brochure.html

The first practical 4speed A/T car from MSIL stable - the face lifted SX4 @ around 8 lakhs ex showroom delhi!

Is the hatchback version of the SX4 also made in India? Caught sight of one in the US on a recent trip. Fit and finish looked great!

sgiitk · 30th October 2009, 09:58

Almost all Auto Transmissions sold in India attracting massive taxation. Also, we are hyper sensitive to kitna deti hai. I have seen people who must be having their own oil well to afford ther mount, still raising this quation. So the market for ATs is very limited. However, I hear demand is growing nowadays given the urban mess.

Also, since Maruti is a global hub for Suzuki so naturally you will have models which are made in India, but not sold here. Probably the volumes will nto justify setting up a service support network.

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ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,745 Thanked: 4,361 Times View My Garage	Maruti would have done some kind of a survey and concluded that Auto's variant would not sell more than 5% in India for their car range. What they are possibly missing out is the chance to take their vehicles to a higher value range, and a premium for their brand in the future. One can't just be seen a reliable, cheap and serviceable, the Snob / Brand value too is required, especially as India goes up the value chain.
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Crank BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 259 Thanked: 82 Times	People are mainly scared of the intial higher costs and the running cost due to low FE in cars with AT. Any idea about FE differences between i10 AT and MT or a Santro AT and MT?
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22nd October 2009, 13:54	#48
jacobgeorge BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 53 Thanked: 6 Times	There are a lot of people, men and women included who are opting for the AT these days and the numbers are only increasing. Yes, there is a certain amount of choice in the 10+ L segment but in the small car segment, there is only the i10AT which is kind of disappointing. I would have expected Maruti to come out with an AT box in their Ritz, A Star and Swift which would have definitely resulted in a swing of customers from Hyundai to Suzuki. Perosnally I have a NHC CVT and an i10 AT. Convenience overules mileage in this case and I am sure 90% of buyers of an AT will share the same reason.
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22nd October 2009, 15:25	#52
jacobgeorge BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 53 Thanked: 6 Times	Hi Ritesh, I have the City, the previous model to the latest ANHC. I get around 10 to 11 km/litre. My i10 also returns the same. I am not complaining and I do not own a petrol pump . The convenience of driving through KR Puram traffic in Bangalore every morning and evening is reason enough to consider an automatic.
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26th October 2009, 20:29	#54
blackasta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: WB 26 Posts: 3,405 Thanked: 2,916 Times View My Garage	guess the following is from Maruti Suzuki in response to this thread: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-brochure.html The first practical 4speed A/T car from MSIL stable - the face lifted SX4 @ around 8 lakhs ex showroom delhi! Last edited by blackasta : 26th October 2009 at 20:31.
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28th October 2009, 09:47	#56
ananth_iy BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 244 Thanked: 22 Times	I did a compare of the automatic versions of the SX4, the i20 and the City and it does look as if the SX4 is targeting the City. Apart from the power, where the SX4 falls woefully short, the rest of the specs are comparably if not better in the SX4. Not sure though how many people would give up the Honda tag for a Maruti tag.
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30th October 2009, 09:58	#58
sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,787 Times	Almost all Auto Transmissions sold in India attracting massive taxation. Also, we are hyper sensitive to kitna deti hai. I have seen people who must be having their own oil well to afford ther mount, still raising this quation. So the market for ATs is very limited. However, I hear demand is growing nowadays given the urban mess. Also, since Maruti is a global hub for Suzuki so naturally you will have models which are made in India, but not sold here. Probably the volumes will nto justify setting up a service support network.
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