Comedy of Errors at Indian Dealerships

gauravkcec · 28th September 2012, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by carheadbanger

Location: Indus motors(maruti suzuki dealer), Calicut,Kerala

Me: "How long should i have to wait to get the delivery of Swift Vdi, if i book it now."
Sales guy: "Unlimited days."
Me:

Chandigarh has the same story. Rather then fooling costumers to deliver it within 3-5 months now they have resorted to and i quote " Saar it is a great car the best there ever has been so you will have to wait until the one arrives for you". 'The one' really am i waiting for a car or a soul mate

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As my friend told him is it a car or taj mahal.

Thad E Ginathom · 29th September 2012, 00:23

Quote:

Me: "How long should i have to wait to get the delivery of Swift Vdi, if i book it now."
Sales guy: "Unlimited days."

Love that one! I wonder if they'd be prepared to wait unlimited days for their payment

BoneCollector · 30th September 2012, 23:10

This happened at Hyundai showroom where we had gone to book a Santro GL Plus.I was somehow not keen on a GLS so opted for GL Plus.Now the SM asked me,why not GLS? I told him I was not interested in anything extra being offered in it.Then he replies, sir that has full wheel covers, audio system,internal mirrors(IRVM) and moreover has a spoiler to control your speed and also to look good!

suhaas307 · 2nd October 2012, 14:06

So I'd taken the Quanto for a short spin and a good overview yesterday and the dealership experience was fairly nice. Here (Mahindra Quanto Launched @ Rs. 5.82 - 7.36 Lakhs) is a short write-up on my experience with the car, for those whom it may concern.

I was approached by three different sales-representatives at 3 different times. Even though I'd initially declined a test-drive that was offered to me, I went out to check out the TD car and that's when I changed my mind.

The sales-representatives were very nice and courteous the whole time when i was checking out the display car. But there were moments that made me want to bite my tongue pretty hard.

SR: Sales Rep, Me: Yours truly.

SR: "Sir the boot is very versatile, not only can you store a lot of luggage, you can seat 2 people by pulling down these seats" And he attempts to yank the seat down.

I jumped into the seat and demanded the door be closed. My upper body and shoulders caved in as the door was shut and I immediately reached for the lever to open it - a thoughtful touch! I climbed out and..

Me: "It isn't suitable for adults though. It's just too cramped."

SR: "Yes Sir it's mostly meant for children and smaller-built people."

Me: "Of course, but only if you hate them!

"

SR: *Grins with difficulty* It can be used for luggage also.

Me: "Yes. Also, I'd like to know if it's safe to be sitting in these seats? A rear-end collision would prove to be worse than one may anticipate if there are people sitting there. Can Mahindra guarantee the 6th and 7th passengers' safety?"

SR: *sweating under the collar and begins to look around the boot-lid for an answer* "Sir, Stephanie will give protection!"

Me:

"Who is Stephanie?" And then my warped mind began thinking of other tangible things that could be associated with 'Stephanie' and 'Protection' *grins*

SR: *frantically gesturing at the spare-wheel* "Sir, the Stephanie will prevent passengers from getting hurt!"

swarnava.m · 2nd October 2012, 14:39

^^ Two words come to mind..!! Brilliant & Bullshit..!!

And I do not blame you for imagining "other tangible things" about 'Stephanie' and 'Protection'..!!

This bring me to a more serious (& OT) question. Can the stepny in an SUV really offer more protection in case of a rear-end collision??

suhaas307 · 2nd October 2012, 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarnava.m

This bring me to a more serious (& OT) question. Can the stepny in an SUV really offer more protection in case of a rear-end collision??

Honestly? I think it might do even more harm than good. I even mentioned this to the SR, but he stuck to his guns. Didn't push further to make my point and left it at that.

I could be wrong about this though.

Thad E Ginathom · 2nd October 2012, 17:35

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Can the stepny in an SUV really offer more protection in case of a rear-end collision??

I guess... certainly not. It's just a great lump to get pushed into you. What an idiot salesman with his Stephanie!

msnarain · 6th October 2012, 11:37

I test drove the Brio and asked the salesman at what speed can I expect the iVTEC to kick in. His reply?

Honda company has already included iVTEC in the engine saar!

Me (rephrasing the question): No no. At what speed would the technology be used?

SM: Saar.. it is already in the engine saar. It is always there! Right from the moment you start the engine saar!

Me: Headdesk!

Skyline GT-R · 10th October 2012, 14:46

I think the SE is right.
"i-VTEC" is Honda's technology which has some other features apart from valve actuation, which starts working the moment the engine is running. I guess even the molybdenum coating on the pistons (or cylinders?) is also categorized under the i-VTEC technology.
Unlike a turbo which "kicks in" at an rpm range, i-VTEC works at any rpm depending on engine load conditions.

Edit: Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.

sgiitk · 10th October 2012, 14:57

I think most people consider the iVTEC being related to the engine speed at which the aggressive cam kicks in. This as pointed out by Skyline depends on various parameters, incl. throttle position, engine rpm and so on. On my Civic it kicks in at around 3000rpm with not too aggressive driving. I really cannot be sure since in 5th on the AT this will correspond to 151 kph, a speed you cannot safely do on our roads! I generally find that if I do not stamp on the throttle it does not kick in below 3000. Of course my son with more aggressive driving gets it going at lower speeds. Of course the consumption increases, and there is a throaty snarl.

ecenandu · 10th October 2012, 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by msnarain

I test drove the Brio and asked the salesman at what speed can I expect the iVTEC to kick in. His reply?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyline GT-R

I think the SE is right.
"i-VTEC" is Honda's technology which has some other features apart from valve actuation, which starts working the moment the engine is running.
Edit: Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgiitk

I think most people consider the iVTEC being related to the engine speed at which the aggressive cam kicks in. This as pointed out by Skyline depends on various parameters, incl. throttle position, engine rpm and so on. On my Civic it kicks in at around 3000rpm with not too aggressive driving.

You can find answer to most of the questions related to iVTEC in the following thread.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post2415950

maheepgupta · 11th October 2012, 16:16

Experience in Audi Jaipur

The guy was telling me about the A4 Business Class.

Me - tires?
Guy - sir, these are almost equal to the other models
Me - almost equal? dude! what is almost?

Guy looked at the tires for a while and then on the other cars

sir, this is almost similar. you can see that.

Me - never mind.. okay what about the equipment level.
Guy - sir, almost similar.
Me - are you kidding me.. if this is same then why a different model which is 3L cheaper on road?
Guy - no sir, almost similar. This is just a marketing tactic you see.

Me -

Tejas Ingle · 3rd March 2013, 23:29

Hello everyone.
Would like to share a couple of funny incidents here.
A friend of mine - Nikhil, took his WagonR to a service station for preventive maintainance. He told the mechanic working on his car to check for the source of noise from his silencer. After checking the car, the mechanic comes up to Nikhil and tells him that the silencer has rusted and the firing order of the car has changed.

Whoa!! And the engine is still running? He must have told some other customer that one of the tyre is spinning in the oppsite direction.
All my friend could do was to laugh his heart out. The mechanic stood staring with a blank face. After calming down a bit Nikhil asked him what exactly is the problem? He replied that he will check again and started to leave. Nikhil asked him again if he was going to pull down the engine of the car.

The funniest part is that Nikhil, along with me work in the automobile industry on the technical side. We had a good laugh and got into a discussion about what all would it take to change the firing order.

In another incident, one of our seniors - Mr. Akash who happens to be the 'Technical Trainer' stopped his Estilo at a petrol pump on the highway. A guy with a grease pump approached him and said he would gease the shock absorbers of the car for just 80 bucks. The suspension would be smooth after that. [Great! Where did you grease your brains from to come up with something like that?] Mr. Akash was shocked at this and asked him where exactly would he fill the grease as he was not aware of any such provision. The grease guy sensed trouble and admitted that he was doing it for earning some money as he had nothing else to do. He later actually did it on another car and pressed the car down a few times to show the owner how smooth the suspension was after the greasing was done. He would attach the tube somewhere below the car and pump it 4-5 times.

How many of us have come accross such out of the world statements by mechanics?

DWind · 4th March 2013, 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

I guess... certainly not. It's just a great lump to get pushed into you. What an idiot salesman with his Stephanie!

I feel we should concentrate on the Mahindra, the company's idiocy in designing such a contraption with no forethought instead of SR. The SR was just selling what the company wanted him to sell (an MUV under 4M with seven seats). Full Marks to the SR for at least coming up with an answer which will convince most (except us) saying "Stephanie" will save you.

rajeev k · 4th March 2013, 22:25

A sales executive of a Ford dealership contacted me couple of days earlier based on a web inquiry made by me and today having come to know of the launch of the Figo celebration edition I called him to know more details. He was not even knowing about it and told me that some new launch will happen this month and when i told him that the LE had already been launched hung up the phone saying that he would revert back soon. Revert he did and said that the details will be known only later. P asked him that they should be dynamic enough to know things about their product.
His immediate response was that they do not have a Dynamic model.

30th September 2012, 23:10	#513
BoneCollector Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: BIHAR Posts: 3,202 Thanked: 10,814 Times View My Garage	This happened at Hyundai showroom where we had gone to book a Santro GL Plus.I was somehow not keen on a GLS so opted for GL Plus.Now the SM asked me,why not GLS? I told him I was not interested in anything extra being offered in it.Then he replies, sir that has full wheel covers, audio system,internal mirrors(IRVM) and moreover has a spoiler to control your speed and also to look good!
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2nd October 2012, 14:06	#514
suhaas307 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,830 Thanked: 12,251 Times	Re: Comedy of Errors at Indian Dealerships So I'd taken the Quanto for a short spin and a good overview yesterday and the dealership experience was fairly nice. Here (Mahindra Quanto Launched @ Rs. 5.82 - 7.36 Lakhs) is a short write-up on my experience with the car, for those whom it may concern. I was approached by three different sales-representatives at 3 different times. Even though I'd initially declined a test-drive that was offered to me, I went out to check out the TD car and that's when I changed my mind. The sales-representatives were very nice and courteous the whole time when i was checking out the display car. But there were moments that made me want to bite my tongue pretty hard. SR: Sales Rep, Me: Yours truly. SR: "Sir the boot is very versatile, not only can you store a lot of luggage, you can seat 2 people by pulling down these seats" And he attempts to yank the seat down. I jumped into the seat and demanded the door be closed. My upper body and shoulders caved in as the door was shut and I immediately reached for the lever to open it - a thoughtful touch! I climbed out and.. Me: "It isn't suitable for adults though. It's just too cramped." SR: "Yes Sir it's mostly meant for children and smaller-built people." Me: "Of course, but only if you hate them! " SR: Grins with difficulty It can be used for luggage also. Me: "Yes. Also, I'd like to know if it's safe to be sitting in these seats? A rear-end collision would prove to be worse than one may anticipate if there are people sitting there. Can Mahindra guarantee the 6th and 7th passengers' safety?" SR: sweating under the collar and begins to look around the boot-lid for an answer "Sir, Stephanie will give protection!" Me: "Who is Stephanie?" And then my warped mind began thinking of other tangible things that could be associated with 'Stephanie' and 'Protection' grins SR: frantically gesturing at the spare-wheel "Sir, the Stephanie will prevent passengers from getting hurt!"
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swarnava.m BHPian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mumbai/Margao Posts: 635 Thanked: 281 Times	Re: Comedy of Errors at Indian Dealerships ^^ Two words come to mind..!! Brilliant & Bullshit..!! And I do not blame you for imagining "other tangible things" about 'Stephanie' and 'Protection'..!! This bring me to a more serious (& OT) question. Can the stepny in an SUV really offer more protection in case of a rear-end collision??
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6th October 2012, 11:37	#518
msnarain BHPian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Chennai Posts: 87 Thanked: 538 Times	Re: Comedy of Errors at Indian Dealerships I test drove the Brio and asked the salesman at what speed can I expect the iVTEC to kick in. His reply? Honda company has already included iVTEC in the engine saar! Me (rephrasing the question): No no. At what speed would the technology be used? SM: Saar.. it is already in the engine saar. It is always there! Right from the moment you start the engine saar! Me: Headdesk!
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10th October 2012, 14:46	#519
Skyline GT-R BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 600 Thanked: 232 Times View My Garage	Re: Comedy of Errors at Indian Dealerships I think the SE is right. "i-VTEC" is Honda's technology which has some other features apart from valve actuation, which starts working the moment the engine is running. I guess even the molybdenum coating on the pistons (or cylinders?) is also categorized under the i-VTEC technology. Unlike a turbo which "kicks in" at an rpm range, i-VTEC works at any rpm depending on engine load conditions. Edit: Please correct me if my understanding is wrong. Last edited by Skyline GT-R : 10th October 2012 at 14:50.
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10th October 2012, 14:57	#520
sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	Re: Comedy of Errors at Indian Dealerships I think most people consider the iVTEC being related to the engine speed at which the aggressive cam kicks in. This as pointed out by Skyline depends on various parameters, incl. throttle position, engine rpm and so on. On my Civic it kicks in at around 3000rpm with not too aggressive driving. I really cannot be sure since in 5th on the AT this will correspond to 151 kph, a speed you cannot safely do on our roads! I generally find that if I do not stamp on the throttle it does not kick in below 3000. Of course my son with more aggressive driving gets it going at lower speeds. Of course the consumption increases, and there is a throaty snarl.
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11th October 2012, 16:16	#522
maheepgupta BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Jaipur, Bikaner Posts: 37 Thanked: 25 Times	Re: Comedy of Errors at Indian Dealerships Experience in Audi Jaipur The guy was telling me about the A4 Business Class. Me - tires? Guy - sir, these are almost equal to the other models Me - almost equal? dude! what is almost? Guy looked at the tires for a while and then on the other cars sir, this is almost similar. you can see that. Me - never mind.. okay what about the equipment level. Guy - sir, almost similar. Me - are you kidding me.. if this is same then why a different model which is 3L cheaper on road? Guy - no sir, almost similar. This is just a marketing tactic you see. Me -
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3rd March 2013, 23:29	#523
Tejas Ingle BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 275 Thanked: 380 Times View My Garage	Hilarious statements by mechanics Hello everyone. Would like to share a couple of funny incidents here. A friend of mine - Nikhil, took his WagonR to a service station for preventive maintainance. He told the mechanic working on his car to check for the source of noise from his silencer. After checking the car, the mechanic comes up to Nikhil and tells him that the silencer has rusted and the firing order of the car has changed. Whoa!! And the engine is still running? He must have told some other customer that one of the tyre is spinning in the oppsite direction. All my friend could do was to laugh his heart out. The mechanic stood staring with a blank face. After calming down a bit Nikhil asked him what exactly is the problem? He replied that he will check again and started to leave. Nikhil asked him again if he was going to pull down the engine of the car. The funniest part is that Nikhil, along with me work in the automobile industry on the technical side. We had a good laugh and got into a discussion about what all would it take to change the firing order. In another incident, one of our seniors - Mr. Akash who happens to be the 'Technical Trainer' stopped his Estilo at a petrol pump on the highway. A guy with a grease pump approached him and said he would gease the shock absorbers of the car for just 80 bucks. The suspension would be smooth after that. [Great! Where did you grease your brains from to come up with something like that?] Mr. Akash was shocked at this and asked him where exactly would he fill the grease as he was not aware of any such provision. The grease guy sensed trouble and admitted that he was doing it for earning some money as he had nothing else to do. He later actually did it on another car and pressed the car down a few times to show the owner how smooth the suspension was after the greasing was done. He would attach the tube somewhere below the car and pump it 4-5 times. How many of us have come accross such out of the world statements by mechanics?
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rajeev k Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Emerging Metro Posts: 3,352 Thanked: 1,947 Times	Re: Comedy of Errors at Indian Dealerships A sales executive of a Ford dealership contacted me couple of days earlier based on a web inquiry made by me and today having come to know of the launch of the Figo celebration edition I called him to know more details. He was not even knowing about it and told me that some new launch will happen this month and when i told him that the LE had already been launched hung up the phone saying that he would revert back soon. Revert he did and said that the details will be known only later. P asked him that they should be dynamic enough to know things about their product. His immediate response was that they do not have a Dynamic model.
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