Scoop! Sumo Grande Mark II

prince_pervez · 3rd November 2009, 13:38

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Originally Posted by vikrantj

Give Grande a grander interior , and see the diffrence in the sales.

And may be a price cut!

harishnair · 3rd November 2009, 13:58

TATA would do good removing the Sumo tag from the Grande (by now they should be knowing that it does more harm than good). Give it a more fresher looking interior with some addons like integrated music system and steering mounted controls.Change the grill to something which looks less plasticy. The rear looks very plain so the best way to go around without a redesign is to attach the rear wheel on to the tail gate like the Safari.Also offer ABS as an option atleast.

vijaythacker · 3rd November 2009, 14:11

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Originally Posted by shankar.balan

why continue flogging this deceased equine?

better to bury the beast and be done with it.

perfect, why to spend more on R&D and come out with something new compact UV with competive price to offer.

007 Bond · 3rd November 2009, 14:18

Hey guys,

MK II should be launched by next week there are 300nos planned for this months production.

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 3rd November 2009, 14:30

bond .... that is news; but I hope they do away with the sumo name.

007 Bond · 3rd November 2009, 14:32

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Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

bond .... that is news; but I hope they do away with the sumo name.

thats always there its grande Mark II but thats production name what does marketing suggest is a different ball game

safari_lover · 3rd November 2009, 15:15

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Originally Posted by 007 Bond

thats always there its grande Mark II but thats production name what does marketing suggest is a different ball game

Bond, what are the changes going into this Mark II?

fx45 · 3rd November 2009, 16:18

The recnent two news articles i saw from Motorids, this sumo and the new upcoming santro. Both pics are photoshopped.
They showed the Kia Picanto as the new santro by simply replacing kia logo with Hyundai's and putting santro name on the number plate. but their photoshop artists were not able to put the santro badge instead of a picanto on the car's rear.
So it became a Hyundai Picanto

I dont trust this website as far as the pictures go.

arnabchak · 3rd November 2009, 16:30

Unfortunately, the looks are the staid old ones as seen in the Sumo Grande.

Until that changes, just superficial chages will not help the Sumo.
Sumo sold more as a Taxi fleet vehicle.

After the Grande was launched and the subsequent price rise, the fleet owners shifted loyalty to the Tavera and the used Qualis/Innova resulting in the Sumo sales adversely.

rajeevkmr · 4th November 2009, 13:08

i think harimakesh is right and if following changes made that i.e.

1.dropping sumo tag
2. ABS as standard in higher version
3. Air bags as option in the same version
4. Refresh Interios with good plastic quality
5. Re-designing of rear door and look
6. Reduction in price tag
7. discontinution of TDI version for taxis
8. Reduction in weight
9. Drop also Grende name
will make it value for money. I have not bought it for the above mentioned reasons and in the months of i have bought SCORPIO sle despite being almost finalising the sumo grenda

OEM · 6th November 2009, 17:29

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Originally Posted by rajeevkmr

i think harimakesh is right and if following changes made that i.e.

1.dropping sumo tag
2. ABS as standard in higher version
3. Air bags as option in the same version
4. Refresh Interios with good plastic quality
5. Re-designing of rear door and look
6. Reduction in price tag
7. discontinution of TDI version for taxis
8. Reduction in weight
9. Drop also Grende name
will make it value for money. I have not bought it for the above mentioned reasons and in the months of i have bought SCORPIO sle despite being almost finalising the sumo grenda

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And this from a person who test drove the mini truck extensively before deciding otherwise.

harishnair · 6th November 2009, 19:56

The grande should be coming out with some major changes or else Tata wont be refering to it as Mark II,just because it has a side mirror indicator strip or a new side badging.

rajeevkmr · 8th November 2009, 21:28

there is some modification in my earlier quote: that in the month of Sep,09 i have bought SCORPIO sLE over GRENDE

prram · 10th November 2009, 19:54

According to some reliable sources the refreshed edition is going to be called as Sumo Grande Plus & will be available in a few days time . The changes include indicator lights on side mirrors , body side claddings etc...

4x4addict · 10th November 2009, 21:47

Guess they hired the marketing guy from the Hindustan Ambassador days. Sumo Grande Mark II what a joke? This albatros should have a 10 ton weight tied to it's neck and thrown into the Indian Ocean. There are enough MUV choices around and we can do without another folly from Tata Motors. What Tata needs to change is the bulbous rear looks and put coil springs at the back and maybe give a 4x4 option. Any other lipstick on this pig won't change it overnight from a failure to a hit. The MUV market is too crowded already.

3rd November 2009, 13:58	#17
harishnair BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Quilon/ Sharjah Posts: 511 Thanked: 5 Times	TATA would do good removing the Sumo tag from the Grande (by now they should be knowing that it does more harm than good). Give it a more fresher looking interior with some addons like integrated music system and steering mounted controls.Change the grill to something which looks less plasticy. The rear looks very plain so the best way to go around without a redesign is to attach the rear wheel on to the tail gate like the Safari.Also offer ABS as an option atleast.
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3rd November 2009, 14:18	#19
007 Bond BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 272 Thanked: 212 Times	Hey guys, MK II should be launched by next week there are 300nos planned for this months production. Last edited by 007 Bond : 3rd November 2009 at 14:19.
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3rd November 2009, 14:30	#20
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	bond .... that is news; but I hope they do away with the sumo name.
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3rd November 2009, 16:18	#23
fx45 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,823 Thanked: 384 Times	The recnent two news articles i saw from Motorids, this sumo and the new upcoming santro. Both pics are photoshopped. They showed the Kia Picanto as the new santro by simply replacing kia logo with Hyundai's and putting santro name on the number plate. but their photoshop artists were not able to put the santro badge instead of a picanto on the car's rear. So it became a Hyundai Picanto I dont trust this website as far as the pictures go.
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3rd November 2009, 16:30	#24
arnabchak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MH-04 Posts: 1,346 Thanked: 1,162 Times	Unfortunately, the looks are the staid old ones as seen in the Sumo Grande. Until that changes, just superficial chages will not help the Sumo. Sumo sold more as a Taxi fleet vehicle. After the Grande was launched and the subsequent price rise, the fleet owners shifted loyalty to the Tavera and the used Qualis/Innova resulting in the Sumo sales adversely.
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4th November 2009, 13:08	#25
rajeevkmr Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: new delhi Posts: 12 Thanked: Once	i think harimakesh is right and if following changes made that i.e. 1.dropping sumo tag 2. ABS as standard in higher version 3. Air bags as option in the same version 4. Refresh Interios with good plastic quality 5. Re-designing of rear door and look 6. Reduction in price tag 7. discontinution of TDI version for taxis 8. Reduction in weight 9. Drop also Grende name will make it value for money. I have not bought it for the above mentioned reasons and in the months of i have bought SCORPIO sle despite being almost finalising the sumo grenda
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6th November 2009, 19:56	#27
harishnair BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Quilon/ Sharjah Posts: 511 Thanked: 5 Times	The grande should be coming out with some major changes or else Tata wont be refering to it as Mark II,just because it has a side mirror indicator strip or a new side badging.
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8th November 2009, 21:28	#28
rajeevkmr Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: new delhi Posts: 12 Thanked: Once	there is some modification in my earlier quote: that in the month of Sep,09 i have bought SCORPIO sLE over GRENDE
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10th November 2009, 19:54	#29
prram BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kerala, Dubai Posts: 34 Thanked: 15 Times	According to some reliable sources the refreshed edition is going to be called as Sumo Grande Plus & will be available in a few days time . The changes include indicator lights on side mirrors , body side claddings etc...
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10th November 2009, 21:47	#30
4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,483 Thanked: 4,529 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (5)	Guess they hired the marketing guy from the Hindustan Ambassador days. Sumo Grande Mark II what a joke? This albatros should have a 10 ton weight tied to it's neck and thrown into the Indian Ocean. There are enough MUV choices around and we can do without another folly from Tata Motors. What Tata needs to change is the bulbous rear looks and put coil springs at the back and maybe give a 4x4 option. Any other lipstick on this pig won't change it overnight from a failure to a hit. The MUV market is too crowded already.
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